KotangaGirl
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Yes good to see you back here on the forum again.
North East England - Steam Days Screenshots - Large Screenshots Possible
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Yes good to see you back here on the forum again.
borderreiver
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Hello John,
The ones you see in the screenshot are actually part of the package included with the Potteries Loop Line, which I think is in the N3V sale at the moment.
Quite old now, but the late great Bendorsey produced South_Hutton_Colliery for me on the DLS and it can be reskinned in to brick or stone textures instead of the concrete of the original.
Ben also produced several models of large UK collieries, such as Ollerton, Rufford and Shirebrook - you would have to do a search on the DLS to see what is available.
Paul Mace (Barn700) of PaulzTrainz had some UK Coal Mines based on the really old private coal mineand Paul has some Coal Mining Buildings in the "other Items" section of his site.
Vincentrh has several Coal Mine Rochbelle assets on the DLS but they seem to be more continental than UK outline.
The ones you see in the screenshot are actually part of the package included with the Potteries Loop Line, which I think is in the N3V sale at the moment.
Quite old now, but the late great Bendorsey produced South_Hutton_Colliery for me on the DLS and it can be reskinned in to brick or stone textures instead of the concrete of the original.
Ben also produced several models of large UK collieries, such as Ollerton, Rufford and Shirebrook - you would have to do a search on the DLS to see what is available.
Paul Mace (Barn700) of PaulzTrainz had some UK Coal Mines based on the really old private coal mineand Paul has some Coal Mining Buildings in the "other Items" section of his site.
Vincentrh has several Coal Mine Rochbelle assets on the DLS but they seem to be more continental than UK outline.
Hello John,
On Steve Flanders site ING4TRAINZ http://www.jatws.org/ing4trainz/other.htm
look for non railway buildings "coal mine basic".
Cheers, Ken
On Steve Flanders site ING4TRAINZ http://www.jatws.org/ing4trainz/other.htm
look for non railway buildings "coal mine basic".
Cheers, Ken
borderreiver
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North East England during the steam era.
A work in progress.
A North British Railway branch passenger train stands at the single platform at Scots Gap station.
Scots Gap on the North British Railway's Rothbury branch.
This was the junction between the Rothbury branch and the Wansbeck branch, which met with the NBR's Border Counties line at Riccarton Junction.
Back in the late 1850s, the North British Railway sought to gain access to Tyneside.
To do this they approached both the Newcastle and Carlisle Railway and the Blyth and Tyne Railway, which both had access to Newcastle.
The NCR was to be the means by which the Border Counties scheme would access Newcastle via Border Counties Junction and Hexham, while the B&TR would be the means by which the Central Northumberland Railway would access Newcastle via Morpeth.
Neither scheme would come to fruition in their original scopes. The NCR merged with the North Eastern Railway and got the better end of the eventual deal. The NBR's Border County Railway gained running powers in to Newcastle Central station but the NER gained running powers into both Carlisle Citadel joint station and the NBR's main station at Edinburgh Waverly. What is more, the NER was also able to use its locomotives to haul East Coast Joint express trains between Newcastle and Edinburgh! The Central Northumberland scheme dwindled in scope until it became the Rothbury branch, with the initial working crossing above the East Coast Main line to run in to the B&TR's station at Morpeth, though the B&TR did have a station in newcastle, at manors, to the north of the East Coast main line.. There was no connection between the B&TR station at Manors and the east Coast main line until the early 1900s as part of the North Tyneside electrification works. The NER soon swallowed the B&TR, limiting the NBR's access to merely the B&TR station in Morpeth. Eventually the NER diverted the NBR branch trains in to its own Morpeth station by means of a new junction to the west of the station and the former B&TR station became the goods depot.
The Rothbury branch became a rural backwater, though there was for many years a through coach to and from Newcastle, since some managerial professionals resided in Rothbury and worked in Newcastle. While the line survived through the grouping period it very soon was on British Railways' radar for closure of the branch passenger service, which occurred on 15th September 1952. Goods services lasted until 11th November 1963.
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borderreiver
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North East England during the steam era.
This route is a work in progress.
During the early 1960s, a BR Ivatt Class 2 2-6-0 runs tender first as it brings a short goods off the branch from Rothbury and Scots Gap. Despite the passenger service being withdrawn in September 1952 there was sufficient goods traffic remaining to keep the line open. Rothbury station kept a Ford Thames truck at Rothbury to enable it to provide road collection and delivery to the district. Goods services were withdrawn in November 1963.
A photograph in the Middleton Press book about the Morpeth to Bellingham line (incl the Rothbury Branch) shows 46474 at Rothbury, which was quite the catch, since she was allocated to 52B Heaton shed for only three months from October 1960. Sadly, the photograph mistakenly captions the loco as a 4MT 2-6-0! I do not know why the Class 2 was moved on to 52D Tweedmouth in January 1961. Whether she was not suited to the branch or whether the lines in to the Scottish borders had a greater need of the Class 2's strengths. The whole family of Class 2, be they Ivatt Class 2 or BR Standard Class 2 were all seeking homes rather frequently at this time as the traffic they were built for was fast disappearing. The BR Standard Class 2s preserved on the Great Central are well thought of as they are considerably more economical to run on off-peak timetables than larger tender engines but will take a four-coach passenger train without complaint.
As it was, I believe that the 44ft 1 inch wheelbase of the Class 2 was too long for the turntable at Rothbury station. A photograph of a former NER C Class/LNER J21 0-6-0 on the turntable shows it barely fitting, so the longer wheelbase of the Class 2 would have been a no-go. That longer wheelbase issue was shared by the J27 former NER 0-6-0s and they were seen at Rothbury in BR days, so that was not a deal breaker for goods trains.
At the Morpeth end of the branch, the Class 2 is coming off a mile of 1 in 95 in order to bring it to the elevation of Morpeth station. The J27 is standing on a loop line between the branch and the East Coast main line, which tightly curves away to the south on the left. Over the decades several derailments have occurred on that tight curve.
Originally, George Stephenson proposed a line north from Newcastle which would have run further to the east, and at a lower elevation in the vicinity of Alnmouth. However, a landowner objected to the line running between his stately home and the sea, "ruining his view". As a consequence, the route was changed, taking it further inland and at a higher elevation. In the process the county town of Northumberland demanded that the main line passed through. In the preceding plan, Morpeth would have been treated like Northampton on the west coast main line, being served by a loop from the main line.
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