For example the Seaboard Orange Blossom Special and the one named the Robert E. Lee. The lovely orange reefers of the Santa Fe with "The Super Chief" and the Grand Canyon just to mention a few. These 40 ft cars are collectors items today for HO model railroaders. When we saw them on Trainz DS we were thrilled and downloaded a number of them. Something happened while I was laid up and only the cars that came with the game disk can be found. Shane mentioned I needed the Kuid for these to try and locate them. I'm afraid I only have lists of the railroad name etc. and the type and number of the car. I could list them if it helps but perhaps someone knows who made these available on the DS and how I can obtain them again. Deisan