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Eaglefan9727
July 13th, 2011, 10:21 AM
Hi Fellow Forum Members,

Yesterday, I bought Trainz 2010 Engineers Edition and I am waiting for it in the mail, But I am curious at what are the most detailed freeware routes that are available as I would like use one or possibly a couple of those routes as a tester for my PC.

My PC specs are as follows:

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 650 @ 3.20GHz
8 GB RAM (Memory)
NVIDIA GeForce GT 220
DirectX 10
Running on Windows 7 64-bit operating system
PC system - Dell Inspiron 580

There is a certain quality that I am looking for when I am running sims and I hope I can get to that quality or close to it as possible on some of the most detailed route that are available for Trainz 2010.

If you can please let me know. It would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Eaglefan

RRSignal
July 13th, 2011, 10:30 AM
Avery-Drexel has a lot, seems kind of a "standard" to compare others. I think the ECML routes are too though I haven't spent more than 5 minutes on them. The Modula City demo has a lot, though you will have to create a session for it, and is much more of a fantasy route.

ETA: Port Ogden & Northern is pretty good too, though philskene did an update from the installed version. And, going outside the built-in stuff, anything from Dermmy or Neilsmith749, or philskene will probably make you happy, to name but a few of the greats.

Eaglefan9727
July 13th, 2011, 10:52 AM
Avery-Drexel has a lot, seems kind of a "standard" to compare others. I think the ECML routes are too though I haven't spent more than 5 minutes on them. The Modula City demo has a lot, though you will have to create a session for it, and is much more of a fantasy route.

ETA: Port Ogden & Northern is pretty good too, though philskene did an update from the installed version. And, going outside the built-in stuff, anything from Dermmy or Neilsmith749, or philskene will probably make you happy, to name but a few of the greats.

Thanks...Are these route more detailed than the EK3 route? As of right now, That is the most detailed route that I have seen up to date.

RRSignal
July 13th, 2011, 11:13 AM
Hmm, that's a tough one. I'd say A-D and maybe PO&N are at least on par with EK3.

Eaglefan9727
July 13th, 2011, 11:22 AM
Hmm, that's a tough one. I'd say A-D and maybe PO&N are at least on par with EK3.

OK...I will test the Avery-Drexel and one of the ECML routes that comes with Trainz 2010 at full detail and see what happens. I will test it will 3 freeware locomotives that I will download JointedRail and will have 30 pigs/double stacks. I think that would be a good test and see how the PC handles it. Thanks.....

Does anyone else have any suggestions of good freeware detailed routes that are available?

philskene
July 13th, 2011, 05:45 PM
Most detailed routes?

Those by gfisher for sure. They are extremely detailed. And require most of the content from the Download Station and then some.

It's been reported that a water cooled Cray managed to get frame rates on one of his routes into double figures. I think that may be an exaggeration. If you do try one of George's, tell us if you get more than 1 frame/sec, even with your rig.

Phil

Eaglefan9727
July 13th, 2011, 06:20 PM
Someone sent me a link to a website last night via private message that had a number of freeware routes, But I deleted the PM by accident. I think the website was like us--. If someone knows what website I am talking about. Can you please post the site. Thanks.....

BTW, Last night when I was going through the screenshots of the USA thread. I saw pics posted of the Santa Fe Gallup sub. Is that available, Work in progress, or a dead work in progress? Im also interested in ALL Santa Fe and Southern Pacific routes.

boleyd
July 13th, 2011, 07:33 PM
Detailed can mean more than one thing. The route may be detailed but not very real looking. Its purpose is to present physical and operational challenges. The other, detailed route, has a greater emphasis on a real world appearance. It may or may not present operational challenges.

I have a problem since I cannot play, mess with or fool around with a route that does not look real. Trainz can be made to look quite like the real world and at the same time faithfully represent a facsimile of a real railroad. For the author to build a route is arduous but to also add natural assets presents and equal challenge.

My choice for the best looking route is East Kentucky-III. Very believable vegetation, tracks, roads, towns and topography. I keep TS10 on my system just to enjoy that route since it uses what are known a Trundra trees. While some disagree, to my eyes those trees, set in the dense forests of Kentucky, are the best available. Unfortunately, there is no compatibility mode in TS2012 so it does not work there. I use TS2012 for other things such as fiddling with industries and to keep abreast of the latest updates.

Well, you may have guessed that EK3 is my choice. Try it. The price is right. If you are looking for very complex routes that focus on industries there are many others that do that quite well. However, if you want to take a train through a deep valleys and small towns where you can imagine the fragrance of the complex vegetation EK3 is the one.

JackieG
July 13th, 2011, 08:14 PM
I have one coming out soon. Grafton Yard WV. It is a small one and only the yard. But it will be awsome!! I say...... 1 to 1 and a half months TOPS. Useing tundras track and trees.

Eaglefan9727
July 13th, 2011, 09:52 PM
Thanks boleyd....I rarely do any switching. I mainly just to mainline railroading from point A to point B. That is what I did when I was running MSTS unless I was working on the "Rattlesnake Desert" route. I enjoy running the main line more than anything else.

HiBaller
July 13th, 2011, 10:05 PM
How about a route that is ONLY a main line? I refer to the Darjeeling Himalayan Railroad (DHR). It is a real railroad, situated in India, that we modeled for Trainz. You can get the files necessary from our site:

http://darjeelingtrainz.com/

And, to help you install it, you can to go this thread for helpful hints:

http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=23748

The very first post will tell you the password to unlock the content files. Follow the thread for the order of file to install. Total content will be approximately 1.2Gb.

Bill

Eaglefan9727
July 14th, 2011, 07:08 AM
Thanks for the info on that route. I will look into that in the near future.

Last night, I was doing some searching and I came across screenshots of 3 routes that I am interested in, But I am not sure if they are available or not. They are as follows:

Summer Lake http://www.ttbwrr.com/TTBWRR-TREES-IN-USE-14.htm
Tehachapi http://www.ttbwrr.com/TTBWRR-TREES-IN-USE-19.htm
North East Corridor http://www.ttbwrr.com/TTBWRR-TREES-IN-USE-24.htm

Also, Considering that I am new to Trainz. Lets say someone created a route for Trainz 2006 and I am running Trainz 2010. Would I be able to run the Trainz 2006 route or can I only run routes that were made for Traimz 2010?

BTW, Has anyone done Feather River for Trainz?

Thanks,
Eaglefan

Euphod
July 14th, 2011, 07:22 AM
Tehachapi is available from Trainz Pro Routes.

Eaglefan9727
July 14th, 2011, 07:38 AM
Tehachapi is available from Trainz Pro Routes.

Is it the reworked version like the link above?

sniper297
July 14th, 2011, 10:20 AM
Main link;

http://www.trainzproroutes.org/routemain.html

The tehachapi route;

http://www.trainzproroutes.org/teha.html

NEC is built into TS12, dunno if it's available elsewhere.

As for the other question;

"Considering that I am new to Trainz. Lets say someone created a route for Trainz 2006 and I am running Trainz 2010. Would I be able to run the Trainz 2006 route or can I only run routes that were made for Traimz 2010?"

It depends. I have some content that was made for the original Trainz that actually works in TS12, a lot of TRS2004 will work in TS2010, but since TRS2004 ignored many errors that TS2010 is fussy about some of it won't work without fixing it. For old routes that use a lot of old faulty content that means hours to days of repairing and replacing dependencies, for old routes that have error free dependencies they'll work out of the box. Only way to find out is try them and see, I'd say at least half the TRS2004 and earlier routes I've tried needed at least some fixing to run in TS2010 native mode.

Eaglefan9727
July 14th, 2011, 11:14 AM
Thanks Jim, But I am in search of the reworked version of the version as that is more like Tehachapi

http://www.ttbwrr.com/TTBWRR-TREES-IN-USE-19.htm

And thanks for the other info as well......

The thing that sucks about the main page of the site is that I cant find any contact link

backyard
July 14th, 2011, 12:39 PM
:cool: I recommend Proto Clinch Elkhorn Extension from TrainzPro Routes (http://www.trainzproroutes.org/routemain.html).

Eaglefan9727
July 14th, 2011, 12:55 PM
:cool: I recommend Proto Clinch Elkhorn Extension from TrainzPro Routes (http://www.trainzproroutes.org/routemain.html).

Thank you for that suggestion. Got a question. There is a download route and a download map. What is the map all about?

backyard
July 14th, 2011, 01:52 PM
:cool: The map is a general map that follows the route mile by mile from Shelbiana, Kentucky to just south of Towns, VA.

It is in .pdf format. I downloaded & printed the map, using both sides of the page & put them in a 3-ring binder.

I used the route map as the cover of the binder.

NikkiA
July 14th, 2011, 02:06 PM
I'm a little surprised that noone has mentioned them (perhaps it's the distinctly american bias to the answers - although eaglefan is american too, so...)

But any of the polish trainz team's (http://www.trainz.org/ptt/index.html) routes show just how much detail can be put into a route. Unfortunately, they require a bit of schleping around the web to get all the dependencies, but they are very much worth it, especially Holopole, which is my go-to route for European style electric operations.

Eaglefan9727
July 14th, 2011, 03:14 PM
I'm a little surprised that noone has mentioned them (perhaps it's the distinctly american bias to the answers - although eaglefan is american too, so...)

But any of the polish trainz team's (http://www.trainz.org/ptt/index.html) routes show just how much detail can be put into a route. Unfortunately, they require a bit of schleping around the web to get all the dependencies, but they are very much worth it, especially Holopole, which is my go-to route for European style electric operations.

Im a native Californian. Norn and raised out there for 22 years before I moved to Massachusetts of 18 years. I went to that website and I couldnt find any screenshots of any routes. Would like to see some screenshots before I spend time downloading routes.

Anyways, Maybe someone can help me out with ID's of the following shots and let me know what routes they are. For some reason, The website wont let me register as I keep getting a error message when I try to sign up.

Post # 5087 by Mike Ski
http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.5085 (http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.5085)
Post # 4170 by Flak
http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.4170 (http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.4170)
Post # 3529 by RBRfoose
http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.3525 (http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.3525)
Post # 3208 by Kingstonflyer
http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.3195 (http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.3195)
Post # 3190 by Kingstonflyer (Shots #2 and #3)
http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.3180 (http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.3180)
Post # 388 by Therock4710
http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.375
Post # 1592 by Evan123
http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.1590
Post # 1988 by Campbell5149
http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.1980
Post # 2718 by Kingstonflyer
http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.2715

Dap
July 14th, 2011, 10:39 PM
I recommend any routes by Maxwerks. His attention to detail is amazing. His latest, the Modesto & Empire,<kuid:425968:1019> a contemporary setting

HobokenShoreRR,<kuid:425968:1420> - 1960 - 1980 era
25thStTerminal,<kuid:425968:1323> - 1950 era
JayStConnecting,<kuid:425968:1247> - 1920 era
AransasPassTerminalRwy,<kuid:425968:1010> - 1880 era

All are switching railroads that acurately reflect their prototypes.

Eaglefan9727
July 15th, 2011, 01:31 AM
Thanks Dap, But I am not much of a switching man. I am more into mainline running.

NikkiA
July 15th, 2011, 02:55 AM
Im a native Californian. Norn and raised out there for 22 years before I moved to Massachusetts of 18 years. I went to that website and I couldnt find any screenshots of any routes. Would like to see some screenshots before I spend time downloading routes. [/URL]

Try looking on this page:

[url]http://www.trainz.org/ptt/_download_mapy/_download_mapy.html (http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.2715)

Navigating around the polish sites takes a little bit of guesswork, and a little bit of using google translate (it helps if your browser can auto-translate, chrome does, firefox has extensions for it, and IE could do it with the google toolbar - although I'm not sure I'd recommend installing toolbars of any kind)

angelah
July 15th, 2011, 03:18 AM
If you want to try a section of a UK route then why not go-get my WCL1. It runs from the terminus at Paddington to Reading (the UK Reading of course, not the US one).
All the content is on the DS although for some reason 2010 CMP would not download 58422:38010, I went onto the DS and got that manually (or womanly in my case!), but it is on the DS. It is refused by '10' due to a dependancy for it being 'Not Available' any longer. It's a bridge.
Other than it that downloaded and ran in 2010 fine yesterday evening, even though I made it in 2004.
This route was the scene of two horrendous train crashes in recent years.

The second section uses the Greenery site's trees, I think by Conti.
There is a download of both section already joined ready for use.

Both have a great deal of detail and apart from the first couple of miles or so, the route is on a DEM. I am not a train runner so my forte is/was scenery.

It is 1:1 scale

Angela

Eaglefan9727
July 15th, 2011, 08:03 AM
Thanks guys for the suggestions on the UK route and so forth, But I am mostly a all American railroader. Im still hoping someone can ID these routes that I mention below:

Post # 5087 by Mike Ski
http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.5085 (http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.5085)
Post # 4170 by Flak
http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.4170 (http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.4170)
Post # 3529 by RBRfoose
http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.3525 (http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.3525)
Post # 3208 by Kingstonflyer
http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.3195 (http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.3195)
Post # 3190 by Kingstonflyer (Shots #2 and #3)
http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.3180 (http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.3180)
Post # 388 by Therock4710
http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.375
Post # 1592 by Evan123
http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.1590
Post # 1988 by Campbell5149
http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.1980
Post # 2718 by Kingstonflyer
http://trainzforums.com/index.php?topic=605.2715

neilsmith749
July 15th, 2011, 10:22 AM
Hey

Not sure if you've seen it or not, but you may like my route "UMR2011-MEGAMERGE-SUMMER". If your machine and video card is up to the task, this route may just have what you're looking for. It has close to 300 miles of mostly double mainline, with lots of industry and sidings as well. It's quite well detailed, and has been merged with a couple of other routes by other creators (ESO and GFISHER).

All items are from the dls, with the possible exception of a signal which can be found for free at JOINTEDRAIL.COM, and a speed retarder which can be found for free at TRAINZPROROUTES.

(Shameless self-promotion ends now!! :hehe: )

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6119/neilsmith74920100309000.jpg

jadebullet
July 15th, 2011, 04:15 PM
Dont forget the routes on www.uslw.net

ex-railwayman
July 15th, 2011, 07:27 PM
Yep, the first link to Mike Ski is for the layout by George Fisher, called The Loops, KUID:106916:1102 on the DLS, although, you can obtain all of George's layouts as they are extremely good, try both the DLS and USLW websites.

Cheerz. ex-railwayman.

Zorronov
July 15th, 2011, 07:50 PM
I agree...George is the master. :)

Cheers,
Fred

P.S. Okay George...where's that ten bucks you promised me for saying that? :hehe: Just kidding...he really is.

Eaglefan9727
July 15th, 2011, 09:36 PM
Neilsmith - The UMR route was one of the 14 routes that I wrote down on my list to try in the coming days and months to come.

Double main line running - Now, You are talking as that is my kind of routes most of the time. When and if I decide to create a route for Trainz like I did for MSTS a few years. My route will be double main line throughout the route.

Jadebullet - Yes I know about that site as there are a few routes there that are on my list of routes.

Ex-railwayman - Thank you for that ID of atleast one of the routes. I appreciated it.

jrfolco
July 16th, 2011, 10:19 AM
You might try the WM & B&O Mega Route.

http://trainzproroutes.com/downloads/index.php?act=view&id=1610

Joe