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UP4021
October 23rd, 2010, 02:49 PM
Welcome abord Metra-Union Pacific West line from Elburn to Chicago.
With intermediate stops in:
La Fox
Geneva
West Chicago
Winfield
Wheaton
College Ave.
Glen Ellyn
Lombard
Villa Park
Elmhurst
Berkeley
Melrose Park
Maywood
River Forest
and
Oak Park

as the announcement usually says (or at least I think it says.:confused: It's been a while since I've ridden it from the beginning in Elburn!)

The route itself is to be set sometime in the past few years, and starts just west of Elburn Co-op (a few miles west of downtown Elburn), and will end downtown Chicago at the OTC (Ogilvie Transportation Center). It will also include a small branchline to St. Charles, as well as the interchanges with the EJ&E in West Chicago, and about a mile or two down the North and Northwest lines. It will also contain all said stops, a yard in West Chicago, the Metra yards in Elburn and Oak Park, and the notable Proviso Yard. Obviously, with all this and about 50 miles of mainline track, it is a pretty huge project that I didn't believe I could finish on my own. That is why I am splitting the project with your current Screenshot of the Week host Steveo241, as he too lives in the area. He will be taking Chicago to about Melrose Park as well as the St. Charles branch, and I will take Proviso yard west to Elburn.

For your viewing pleasure, here is the first screenshot:

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/UP4021_20101003_0003.jpg

A westbound freight at Meredith Rd., Elburn, Il.
Here's something similar:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=181338&nseq=26

SD45T-2
October 23rd, 2010, 04:02 PM
Nice job, Looks good.

UP5521
October 23rd, 2010, 06:31 PM
wow,great job!;)

lginc
October 23rd, 2010, 07:50 PM
I'm going to be keeping a close watch on the progress of this route, I sincerely hope it comes to frutation ;) .

Not exactly familiar with this line your doing, but I've rode the UP-Metra "Harvard line" , running from Harvard Ill to Ogilvie several times:D . UP anywhere around the Chicago area would be a truly Fantastic route to have:Y: .

Best of luck!

UP4021
November 7th, 2010, 02:36 AM
Thanks for the replies.
It just occured to me that while I was making such a fuss of this to begin with, most of you don't understand why. So, I thought I'd give a bit of a short history lesson.

The Union Pacific West Line is what Metra (the Chicagoland commuter rail line) calls its route down the Union Pacific trackage of the Geneva Subdivision. The Sub runs from Chicago to Rochelle (which at about 70 miles is not going to happen!). Construction of the line had finished in 1855 by the Galena & Chicago Union RR, which ran fron West Chicago to Fulton, Il on the east side of the Mississippi River. Ten years later, the railroad built a bridge across the Mississippi, only to merge with the smaller Chicago & North Western Railroad. After a few more aquisitions, the C&NW had trackage from Chicago to Omaha, where it became partners with the Union Pacific. From then on (for the most part) until 1955, then again within the last few decades, the C&NW was Union Pacific's partner to Chicago on the transcontinental line. All of the transcontinental passenger trains, including Union Pacific's notible city trains would have been seen on this line, and stopped in Chicago at the old Northwestern Station. In 1984, the older station was replaced by the station/office building that has come to be known as the Ogilvie Transportation Center. In 1995, Union Pacific merged with the Chicago & North Western, taking control of all of it's rolling stock and trackage. This, however, did not mean the end to the origional transcontinental line. In fact, traffic may have increased. Today, almost anything that needs to get anywhere can be seen on the Geneva Sub. From mixed freights, to the several daily coal trains traveling east and west between Chicago and the Powder River Basin, to the even more frequent double-stack Intermodal trains between Chicago and the west coast. There is of course, plenty of Metra, who extended their line from Geneva to La Fox and Elburn in 2005 (don't quote me on that). Though this is a rough approximation, on weekends and during rush hour (passenger), there is usually either a freight of passenger train going by every 15 minutes here in Geneva.
So...NOW YOU KNOW
And, so I don't get in trouble for plagurizing...

Works Cited

Murray, Tom. Chicago & North Western Railway. Minneapolis: Voyageur, 2008. Print.

UP4021
November 7th, 2010, 03:03 AM
So, sorry there hasn't been much here. We've both been kinda busy (what with that whole life thing and all; damn thing gets in the way of everything!:hehe: ) However, some things have been done behind the scenes. I somewhat recently got Steveo241 his fair section of route, and he says that, though it may not be for a little while, progress will soon be made. Though I myself have had little time to actually work on the route, I have had time to play around with Gmax. Here's a few I've pretty well finished:

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/GMax%20creations/SearsTower1.jpg
The Sears... I mean Willis Tower, and:

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/GMax%20creations/AonCenter1.jpg
the Aon Center.

I've also started the rather large landmark Elburn Co-Op, a crucial point on the route (http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=193063&nseq=32 and http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=245817&nseq=7), and the EJ&E tower at Turner Junction which looks like this: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=935407, and an earlier picture with the old staircase: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=98724. Also includes rolling pumpkins with j-balls for your viewing pleasure.

I am planning on texturing these using pictures, and I have been tearing my rather great hair out in chunks trying to figure out how to. If someone could point me in the right direction, it would be greatly appreciated.

AndrewLummis_99
November 7th, 2010, 08:23 AM
Hey want me to make the signal at the one tower picture

WCL
November 7th, 2010, 09:23 AM
Wow....This looks like its going to be something pretty cool....I will for sure also keep an eye on this topic :Y:

Hope to see more pix soon.....Keep up the good work :clap:

UP4021
November 7th, 2010, 10:33 AM
Hey want me to make the signal at the one tower picture

If you'd like. That would be great! Thanks!:D

WCL
November 7th, 2010, 12:16 PM
Hey want me to make the signal at the one tower picture

Dude....You say you will be making lots of stuff, so far you said you had the ELS SD9's u were going to do, and then you said the ELS GP38 400 you were going to do, and the 2 SD40-2's, then you said you had some WC units you said you were going to do like the 3026, then you said you had some SOO GP30's you wanted to do.....I mean...Come on....Do one at a time and get at least ONE thing you said u were going to do DONE FIRST!!!!! :hehe:

AndrewLummis_99
November 7th, 2010, 04:19 PM
alrighty dude send the the stuff over and i can do it

WCL
November 7th, 2010, 07:29 PM
alrighty dude send the the stuff over and i can do it


Na dude...Dont worry about it....Your words are bigger than your actions anyways.....If you did that stuff...It will prolly take a year to have you complete it....Or even just a year to complete just one of them things you said you were going to do.......:hehe:

UP4021
November 7th, 2010, 09:04 PM
Alright you kids, calm down.:hehe:

Now Andrew, what "stuff" are you referring to? If you'd like to contribute in some way, I definitely won't try to stop you. However, I would first like to know what that "stuff" is, because as far as I know, you never asked for "stuff" in the plural, but rather that you'd make the signal. But, in the mean time, I think that you should finish some of the projects that you have already started first, and you can come back. Progress on this won't exactly be quick, and the opportunity will remain open for you in the future. I seem to recall that you were working on C&NW and Metra F7 reskins. Were those ever finished? I was quite looking forward to those.

sniper297
November 7th, 2010, 10:48 PM
You left out Bellwood, IL and Kedzie Avenue. :wave:

http://metrarail.com/metra/en/home/maps_schedules/metra_system_map/up-w/station.html

Good source for old pictures;

http://www.cnwhs.org/

I grew up near 40th Street yard on the Galena division, when I was a kid (1950s) there were commuter stops every half mile east of the DesPlaines River. Last time I rode the line was five years ago, only stop left in the city was Kedzie. Even as late as the '70s Western Avenue Interlocking averaged one movement every 90 seconds during the day. :cool:

UP4021
November 8th, 2010, 08:25 AM
AAHHHH! I kinda knew that I was missing something! Although they almost never stop in Kedzie anymore. Thanks for the info.

UP4021
November 8th, 2010, 08:30 AM
Even as late as the '70s Western Avenue Interlocking averaged one movement every 90 seconds during the day. :cool:

Jeez! That beats one every 15 min! Although I do live like 40 miles west. And one time, I was walking my dog and noticed 4 trains in 20 min.

Steveo241
November 10th, 2010, 09:20 PM
UP North/Northwest Lines split from the West Line just past the Milwaukee Line Bridge.

http://i51.tinypic.com/vsde2g.jpg

UP4021
November 10th, 2010, 11:02 PM
Lookin' nice!:Y:

I need to get back to work!

UP4021
November 14th, 2010, 02:16 AM
:hehe: School has been as school should be... hard. I've been busy, but I managed to squeeze out a bit of tracklaying tonight.
A couple of days ago I took advantage of the sale at rrmods and bought my first rrmods payware, so you will see them in the pictures (naturally). I thought I'd celebrate both with an authentic UP power move.

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20101114_0001.jpg

TRUE STORY: I saw something very similar to this in this area about five years ago. Pretty much a bunch of UP's old buckets of rust being moved to Proviso, where some of them were probably sold. So now, here they are, spewing out an ungodly amount of soot as they begin to gain speed after being stopped at a light. (notice the 15 or so engines are only pulling about 20 empty intermodals! True UP spirit.:hehe: )

And, because this IS a screenshots thread, and there has lately been a lack thereof, here's some more...

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20101114_0002.jpg

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20101114_0005.jpg

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20101114_0008.jpg
more of a shot for the engine and, back in 95'...
http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20101114_0016.jpg
a recent aquisition for the UP is still showing its colors with pride, leading this westbound freight over South First St. in Geneva.
BTW, the actual thing looks like this:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=41.88132,-88.30729&spn=0,0.016469&z=17&layer=c&cbll=41.881394,-88.307228&panoid=5Eo-i9CYqMvxadGzpf9Jeg&cbp=12,28.39,,0,0.02
does anyone know of good stone abutments, or even bridges like these? These ones are only temporary, unless there aren't better ones. In which case these will have to do. It's not like it's a major point in the route.

Steveo241
November 14th, 2010, 11:43 AM
Instantly recognized CP Peck :D Looks like I'll have to adjust my crossovers to match yours. Mine are a lot shorter. Also, which bridge are you using for Geneva? It looks great!

Keep it up!

Steveo241
November 14th, 2010, 06:06 PM
http://i56.tinypic.com/20jic6o.jpg

Western Ave Yards. If anyone has a suggestion for a bridge by the diamonds, I'd be very happy :D

UP4021
November 14th, 2010, 06:07 PM
Oh, whatever. I just used the measuring tool in Google Earth, used rulers in game and laid track accordingly. It's pretty usefull.

Which bridge, the one in the picture or the one over the Fox?

UP4021
November 14th, 2010, 06:09 PM
Nice man. Was it easier the second time?:hehe:

Steveo241
November 14th, 2010, 06:24 PM
Both, actually :P

UP4021
November 14th, 2010, 07:29 PM
Great. If you consider that easy, the rest should be cake! Keep it up, it looks excellent.

As for bridge problems...
I thought origionally that I'd build the bridge in Geneva, but since I still have to finish the things mentioned earlier, it may be a while. Unless someone else feels the urge...
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=41.882259,-88.302623&spn=0,0.008234&z=18&layer=c&cbll=41.882301,-88.30319&cbp=12,0,,0,5&photoid=po-28905127
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1378349

As for yours, that's more like a tunnel! I really don't know what to say. Perhaps someone else does.
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=41.888042,-87.686622&spn=0,0.008234&z=18&layer=c&cbll=41.887992,-87.686618&panoid=obFjGvELiOPIAkYE0E6x7g&cbp=12,12.24,,0,1.31

UP4021
November 15th, 2010, 11:30 PM
Ok. Well, I'm sorry Steve if I misread your post, but that kind of bridge that I am using in Geneva is "Through Plate Girder Bridge No Pylon", and I believe that it is built into 2009. May I ask what bridge you used in that bridge you used in your first post? Is there a rustier one? I ask because I may be using it on the other Geneva bridge over the river in a slight kitbashing project, and that is exactly what I'm looking for!

Also, I've asked a variety of questions that were open for anyone to answer. And yet, for the past page, Steveo and I have been the only two talking. There's been over a thousand views on this thread, so I know you must be out there! So please; fanmail, suggestions... hatemail (though not exactly preferred, at least it'd be something!:hehe: ), any input would be appreciated. I'll try to have some more screenshots by tomarrow.

mtldrm38
November 16th, 2010, 12:49 AM
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z108/mtldrm38/Screen_875.jpg


This is a screenshot of same area I used the TTR UNDERPASS 1
Its a spline also.....

I have yet to add the yard here which I basing more early era 60-70s
of Chicago area.....

Route lookin good by the way............

Dave =)

UP4021
November 16th, 2010, 08:29 AM
Hey! Great! Thanks Dave, yours is looking pretty good too.

Steveo241
November 16th, 2010, 06:36 PM
Awesome! Thanks a TON, Dave!

mtldrm38
November 18th, 2010, 01:36 PM
Hey UP4021 on a question earlier post about bridges....
I have a few things I use ya can find on DLS

CGM Bridge concrete (track object) several variety
Abutment-concrete (track object)

Ret Wall No Fence (spline) makes great abutments and walls downtown

JJS Plate Girder Bridge (track spline) several versions

Box Deck Girder 60 (object) this by SPORBUST has different versions
theyre a full AB and Bridge combo...

Now my question do you know what the CNW called theyre freight line that
ran North of 40th av yd/West Chicago yd (long gone) and crossed MILW (bloomingdale line) at Cragin jct (long gone) and ran north and connected to the NW LINE at Montrose....

UP4021
November 18th, 2010, 07:04 PM
Thanks again for the bridges. I'll look into them.

As for yours, I might know what you're talking about, but some of these are slightly baffling. Something that might help is: how long gone?
I've got tracks running north/south out of West Chicago paralleling the EJ&E for a while, but those are still in use. Between the two lines when they split however, there is a path that I believe was once trackage that also run out of West Chicago.
Also, the yard in West Chicago of which I've been refering to is actually in West Chicago, and is not so long gone:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1660146
and, correct me if I'm wrong, but 40th Ave. is a lot closer to the city; a bit north of Proviso.
Plus, these all meet up with the Northwest in Elgin.
So right now... I don't really know. You got anything Steveo?

mtldrm38
November 18th, 2010, 07:18 PM
http://www.dhke.com/ihbarchive/ihbmaps.html

this a 1958 IHB map the page click on north map you ll see the BRC runnning north where the 40th av yard runs north at Chicago av a small yard theyre is called West Chicago yard then runs north and reconnects after Montrose...
On the Google maps I see no Metra stations and it is still active industry....
So I believe it was strictly a freight line til late 70 s.....
(long gone) referring to tracks are gone just traces of old ties etc....

Steveo241
November 18th, 2010, 07:43 PM
I have no idea what it's called, I just know it's the current Belt Line that runs from Grand/Cicero to Clearing. Sorry :/

UP4021
November 18th, 2010, 08:52 PM
Ah, that yard. How could I forget? That was the one that had until recently a coaling tower. Yeah, I take the same position as Steveo. That's all I know. Sorry we weren't much help.
However, if it's historical pictures you need, have you tried here?
http://www.historicaerials.com/
It's good if you are just looking. Otherwise you need to buy the pictures. I just checked, and thay have pictures of a good chunk of it from 1973, and a ton of it from 1972.

mtldrm38
November 19th, 2010, 12:08 AM
thnx that gives me a better idea of what tracks where theyre

Dave =)

UP4021
November 19th, 2010, 08:27 AM
No problem. At least I could help in some way.:)

UP4021
November 25th, 2010, 07:20 PM
Alright folks, I've got some good news and some bad news.

The good news is that at least I am still very heavily thinking about it.

The bad news is that my hard drive has been making a wierd klicking noise, and I expect that it will be toast within the next few days. Luckily, I have heeded the warnings, and backed everything up. So, though not permanently done, work from this side is done for a while until I get a new computer. Money has been tight around here though, and I don't suspect that that will be for a while. I'll stay on the forums, this is not my only computer. I have a few near-junk ten-year-old laptops laying around, but trainz won't be working for a while. So, I knew that this would be a long-term project, but I'm afraid that it will be a bit longer than expected.
Sorry.:'(

mtldrm38
November 25th, 2010, 07:38 PM
Well that bytes..........
Hope to see this finished one day..........
Thnx again for the historical map site I finished off 40th av yard and the west chicago yard basically crossing back and forth from 1962-1972 and basically
eye balled a general idea of the yard layouts (freelanced)...

good luck on a new comp soon...........

Dave =)

UP4021
November 26th, 2010, 08:50 PM
Alright, well...
it's gone.

Fortunately, it was just the drive that was added on for space. The real hard drive with the operating system stuff doesn't have enough space for all my Trainz stuff, but it should still be enough space for gmax. This gives me a chance to catch up on some things as far as that's concerned. I've also got a badly neglected HO scale layout sitting in the basement, so...
we'll see how things go.

sniper297
November 28th, 2010, 03:00 AM
Line along Kenton Street is the Belt Railway of Chicago, not nearly as busy as it was back in the day, but still running.

http://www.beltrailway.com/

40th Street, 40 blocks west of State, was renamed to Crawford and later Pulaski, the actual western end of 40th street yard was at the BROC overpass, 4600 west (I grew up at 4800 West Fulton, 2 blocks from 40th Street yard). The Belt Line runs north/south and passes over the C&NW (now UP), and the Lake Street Elevated (Green Line) running parallel to the C&NW about half a block south passes high over the Belt Line. Here's a pic taken from the El crossing over the Belt Line;

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=86739&l=0959e7f059&id=100001028687859

The bridge in the center of the pic is where the C&NW crossed under the Belt Line, 40th Street yard on the right. Brachs Candy unfortunately closed a few years ago. This;

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=290152&l=7a3cebbd68&id=100001028687859

Was also taken from the EL crossing the Chicago River, the commuter train on the left is a Metra coming out of Ogilve heading west.

UP4021
November 28th, 2010, 01:30 PM
Heh. Brachs. I've heard stories that whenever you drove by the factory, you were hit with a burst of amazing smells.

Yep. It's a miserable looking pile of bricks now.

Fun fact for those of you out of the area:
the "hospital" that was blown up in the Batman movie "The Dark Knight" was one of the buildings from the Brachs factory.

Thanks for the info sniper, much appreciated as always. :wave:

On a different note, I got bored and went ahead and installed TS2009 on the new drive. Then I tried to move all the content that I had back into it and, what do you know... it didn't fit.:o
Perhaps, though, there will be enough room for the TransDEM textures, the track we're using, some rolling stock and a few JR/rrmods/SPORBUST locomotives. That way I can at least get some track laid, take some nice screenshots... happy days are back!

mtldrm38
November 28th, 2010, 08:02 PM
Was also taken from the EL crossing the Chicago River, the commuter train on the left is a Metra coming out of Ogilve heading west.

from what i can see may correct that metra train crossing under the CNW (just north of northwestern station) coming out of Union Station on the Milw line....

UP4021
December 4th, 2010, 01:42 AM
Ok. Quick FYI, and I promise I'll stop replying to every screenshots post. :hehe:

My part of the route didn't quite save as it was supposted to. However, I do still have the old drive which kinda still works, so I could maybe try again.
If not, I'll just have to start over. I still have the origional map as it would have been straight out of TransDEM. It's not like I got that much done anyway.
So, in other words, for all of you hopefully still interested (including you Steve), this project is FAR from vaporware. You'll have to pry it from my cold, dead hands to get me to completely stop working on this! I'm not going down without a fight! :hehe:
I promise, there will be more screenshots around here soon. I promise.

UP4021
January 4th, 2011, 06:51 PM
Hey all!

Well, looks like I lost all of my progress on the previous route. Luckily though, I still have the map as it looks directly from TransDEM, so...

I'm starting over again!


http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110104_0002-12.jpg

Of course, you may notice how little is shown in this picture.



The hard truth is...

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110104_0007-1-1.jpg

...yeah. :o

So, I've got some work to do.

The DEM itself is exactly the same as the last one, but there is one tiny issue. Steve, (if you still want to work with me on this of course) I will need to know where to divide it up again. Still, if you would like to continue to work on it with me, it would be GREATLY appreciated.

Enjoy, and sorry for the wait!
:wave:

Steveo241
January 5th, 2011, 08:21 PM
Well this is going to be a pretty hectic year for me :D I think I can finish trackwork on it this weekend, as I'm finishing up another project I've been working on while you've sorted out the hard drive issues. Spring Break, I won't get much done (I think you're on the same schedule as us), as I'll be hosting another well-known Trainzer at my house for most of that time. I'm sure I'll get some things done. The only part I don't look forward to is texturing. That's always a drag. But hey, it's just texturing :P

Steve

UP4021
January 5th, 2011, 08:41 PM
No problem. :wave:

I've seen that you're busy around here, what with all that and especially with the special edition screenshots contest going on.

There is absolutely no rush what so ever. I've been pretty busy lately, and still have a ton to do on this. I am absolutely amazed that you got as much trackwork done as you have. You sir are amazing! :D

And, on sort of a side note, I've been trying to learn Blender. I've been trying to make custom content for the route, and I've come close to finishing some of that as seen on previous pages. However, all of that was lost on the old computer, and will have to be done on Blender, where it looks easier to texture. Plus, I love renderings. :hehe:

So, I've got a new computer, and I'm now ready to keep going...

mtldrm38
January 8th, 2011, 12:12 AM
sweet glad ya back on track ., I completed all the cnw lines except proviso yard man the CNW had a flock of lines hittin chicago from all point s it seems
so track laid and got the markers aligned for AI s workin good now some deco and gotta do a vid so the vaporware folks see this is for real finally

UP4021
January 8th, 2011, 03:12 AM
Well, it may not look like much, but it's something. Besides, there's about three more miles of track far out of view.

Straight as a... well... rail.

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110108_0000.jpg

Those white lines over to the right are that yard in West Chicago. That should be looking pretty different real soon...

UP4021
January 8th, 2011, 08:00 PM
Little bit of something...

About a quarter of that yard done. Here's how it's looking so far.

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110109_0000.jpg

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110109_0001.jpg

An SD40T-2 does a bit of light switching (no matter how pointless).

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110109_0004.jpg

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110109_0008.jpg

BTW, pay no attention to the... let's say vintage switching levers. Especially not the ones in the middle of the track. I tried to hide them with the loco, but they are there.

FromIlinois
January 9th, 2011, 06:38 PM
Awesome work! This route is looking good! Do you have any interest adding another Metra route, such as North Central Service :o

Steveo241
January 9th, 2011, 07:11 PM
Awesome work! This route is looking good! Do you have any interest adding another Metra route, such as North Central Service :o

I'll throw that on my list. I was over at the Schiller Park Yard today.

UP4021
January 9th, 2011, 09:56 PM
I'll throw that on my list. I was over at the Schiller Park Yard today.

List?
What else are you planning?

Steveo241
January 9th, 2011, 11:07 PM
List?
What else are you planning?

Current Projects:

UP West Line
NS Branch in Central Illinois
SL La Fox Terminal (Fictional)

Planned:

METRA North Central Service
UP New Line (Proviso-Pleasent Prairie)
METRA Milwaukee District West Line
BNSF Saint Croix Subdivision
Saint Paul-Minneapolis, MN

Possible:

BNSF Racetrack
San Antonio, Texas

I have a lot on my mind for 2011. Most likely, none of the planned ones will be done. I'm focusing on ours and the NS one at the moment.

UP4021
January 9th, 2011, 11:23 PM
A most impressive list sir. :D

Again, thank you for helping me on this, and good luck to you on your others.

Also, if you need anything for the others... I'm still willing to give it!

metrarailboy1
January 10th, 2011, 05:39 PM
LoL sweet I kinda did the Racetrack from Lisle to Chicago Union but the trackage sucks. Hope you can get to it I would love to use it. If you are interested heres the thread I did for it:
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=38126&highlight=BNSF

UP4021
January 10th, 2011, 05:52 PM
LoL sweet I kinda did the Racetrack from Lisle to Chicago Union but the trackage sucks. Hope you can get to it I would love to use it. If you are interested heres the thread I did for it:
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=38126&highlight=BNSF

So you aren't finishing it?

I remember seeing the progress. It looks pretty good. Don't know what you're talking about. :)

Steveo241
January 10th, 2011, 06:30 PM
Trackwork is no problem for me. It's my favorite thing to do. Scenery is the part that bugs me. If you want to send a CDP over to me to look at it, I'd be more than happy to re-track that if you want. It'd take me a little while to get around to it though.

metrarailboy1
January 10th, 2011, 07:31 PM
Yeah I was considering finishing but Steve yeah that would be awesome. When I get the chance I'll send you the cdp.

metrarailboy1
January 11th, 2011, 12:23 AM
Hey I was considering finishing my MDN-L extended to Milwaukee. Right now it runs from Fox Lake to Round Lake nothin big yet but I got to see how to learn proper ground elevation. Thats why my routes are flat. And also smooth track work.

Steveo241
January 11th, 2011, 06:46 AM
If you're going for realism, I understand why you would want to have correct elevation. But many people don't mind if the route is flat. Almost all of mine are unless they're from a DEM. Placing track on those is tricky and takes almost double the time (in my opinion). I guess you could say that the finished product is better, but either way works just fine.

By the way, UP, I'll have some new shots up tomorrow.

UP4021
January 11th, 2011, 04:51 PM
Sweet.

I may or may not do the same. Finals start tomarrow. :'(

The only reason I would even give progress a chance is because final days are half days. :cool:

Steveo241
January 11th, 2011, 06:12 PM
We have finals all next week. Oh boy :o UP 2010 is due through Geneva tomorrow afternoon. 4th out in the lead consist (possibly DPU in the back).

UP4021
January 11th, 2011, 07:12 PM
Do you know what time?

Steveo241
January 11th, 2011, 07:31 PM
It depends on if it stops between Los Angeles and here. If not, it'll be around this time tomorrow. It's dark, yeah, but the lights'll get 'em for sure.

metrarailboy1
January 11th, 2011, 10:48 PM
Ok so I just recently just redid the tracks heading westbound to Lisle. The distance is more accurate. I hope to be close to Route 59 by Monday. Steve do you want me to send you the route after I get to Aurora? If you can and want to can you add the EJ&E trackage out past West Chicago and I will add the scenery ater you are done? And lastly if it is ok I will leave Eola Yard out and you can add it in correctly.

Steveo241
January 11th, 2011, 10:58 PM
Ok so I just recently just redid the tracks heading westbound to Lisle. The distance is more accurate. I hope to be close to Route 59 by Monday. Steve do you want me to send you the route after I get to Aurora? If you can and want to can you add the EJ&E trackage out past West Chicago and I will add the scenery ater you are done? And lastly if it is ok I will leave Eola Yard out and you can add it in correctly.

Sure. I'd even take it past Aurora and extend it to Savanna. That'd be a fun route to run. Shoot it over to me if you want. PM me.

Tremain
January 14th, 2011, 09:28 PM
If you need the track plans for the route, I know a website for mostly all of the metra routes trackage.


Here is the site ;) (below)

http://web.me.com/willvdv/chirailfan/tipmetra.html

UP4021
January 15th, 2011, 12:31 AM
Great!

Thanks man.
:wave:

Tremain
January 16th, 2011, 01:19 PM
:)
Great!

Thanks man.
:wave:


Your Welcome. These even got Station plans too !!!! Have fun with it:)


Did you see the track charts ???

Suggestion :

Also use the UP concrete track from USLW for the route. Most of the line is concrete tracked i think !

UP4021
January 23rd, 2011, 05:56 PM
Alright. I practically spent this entire weekend finishing up this yard. Here's how it's looking:

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110123_0001.jpg

I used quite a few rulers if you can't tell.

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110123_0002.jpg

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110123_0008.jpg

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110123_0009.jpg

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110123_0010.jpg

How it looks populated:

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110123_0006.jpg

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110123_0007.jpg

I don't have any of the rrmods GP15s, so I can't accurately model the seven of them that are in and around this yard at any one time... yet. So I've had to make some compromises. Still, you can't really go wrong with these. :cool:

So anyway, The track in this yard is pretty much finished. I still have to finish up the industry lead (for your switching pleasure) and the interchange with the J. After that, while I'm on a rool with yards, I'm going to do Proviso. :eek: For those who didn't see, mtldrm38 just finished his virsion of Proviso as seen here: http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=57781&page=21
BTW, I didn't get a chance to comment on how great that looks. So:
That looks great! :D

As for me, I'm done for today. It's amazing how tiring sitting in front of a computer screen for a few hours is! If there is ever a point when someone truely respects content creators... I've just reached it.

Now, time to go watch the Bears finish losing.

Euphod
January 23rd, 2011, 07:08 PM
And lose they have!
That's a ton of work you've done there. Is this Bensenville Yard? I ask before I see far more CN units switching there that UPs. The UP's go by me every day, but I figured they come from Proviso.

UP4021
January 23rd, 2011, 08:16 PM
No it's... well I don't really know what it's called. It's this one here: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=41.885889,-88.22382&spn=0.027732,0.065875&t=h&z=15

It is on the UP main, which would hopefully explain why there is so much yellow there.

A fun little game to play is to find all the GP15s in the yard. That picture is a pretty dull one, because they're all clumped. Google Earth has that timeline thingy so you can see images from the past. Anyways, there are 5 there, plus the 4 old GEs up by the interchange.


Also use the UP concrete track from USLW for the route. Most of the line is concrete tracked i think !

I was thinking about that, but there is also a ton of wood used, so it wouldn't completely work. I was thinking that I'd maybe hold out for that track JR made. It looks pretty exact to what I need.

BTW, sorry about the fuzzyness of the pictures. I just got irfranview, and I've been playing around with it. Hopefully the pictures from now on will be crystal-clear, eye-popping, beautiful works of art. :p

Thanks.
:wave:

Euphod
January 23rd, 2011, 08:20 PM
How could I mistake Dupage County for O'Hare? I just saw a runway and my fertile mind did the rest! Thanks.

UP4021
January 23rd, 2011, 08:25 PM
Ahh. Got it!
LOL.

UP4021
January 23rd, 2011, 08:44 PM
Here. Try this one:

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110123_0003-1.jpg

gisa
January 23rd, 2011, 08:59 PM
I was thinking about that, but there is also a ton of wood used, so it wouldn't completely work. I was thinking that I'd maybe hold out for that track JR made. It looks pretty exact to what I need.



I too am looking forward to using those tracks. However, in your case you have what I suspect is a HUGE yard, so that might not be a feasible option for you. Unless you want to run a ghost yard, keep in mind that most folks would want a yard at least 50% filled I figure and that's a lot of rolling stock (which can quite respectably/naturally be the heaviest in terms of polys in trainz). I think the MP wood track looks great (and I've decided to use this myself for now) but see how your frame rates hold up with a several trainz first. ;)


Here. Try this one:



Nice shot. :)

:wave:

Gisa ^^

UP4021
January 23rd, 2011, 09:12 PM
I too am looking forward to using those tracks. However, in your case you have what I suspect is a HUGE yard, so that might not be a feasible option for you. Unless you want to run a ghost yard, keep in mind that most folks would want a yard at least 50% filled I figure and that's a lot of rolling stock (which can quite respectably/naturally be the heaviest in terms of polys in trainz). I think the MP wood track looks great (and I've decided to use this myself for now) but see how your frame rates hold up with a several trainz first. ;)

Yeah, I thought about that. If I were to use that track, it would probably just be for the mainline. Then, I would use something a bit easier on the frame rates in the yards.


Nice shot. :)

:wave:

Gisa ^^

Thanks. :)

It's better.

gisa
January 23rd, 2011, 09:42 PM
Right on. I might do the same thing. I don't really have any major yards in my route (nothing on the same scale as you) and I avoided the main yards (as they run by the mainline and I wish to detail that more) but who knows what the frame rates will be like (or the LOD). I'm eagerly awaiting the release of that track as well...

I'm looking forward to more shots as progress continues. ^^

:wave:

Gisa ^^

mtldrm38
January 23rd, 2011, 10:08 PM
Lookin good if I recall when it was the CNW it was called WEST CHICAGO YARD in W CHGO of course but then that was years past............

I decided to portal out just after Elmhurst and ugh was lookin at the line going north out of Proviso sits another small yard and huge industrial parks
thats gonna be a coin toss for now.....

Gotta tell ya comin along really well............:udrool:

ps ugh DA BEARS or should I say DAMN CUTLER ahhh either way its over....lol

UP4021
January 24th, 2011, 06:07 PM
Lookin good if I recall when it was the CNW it was called WEST CHICAGO YARD in W CHGO of course but then that was years past............

That's good to know. I'm sure UP hasn't changed it around too much if at all. I'll have to do a bit of research on it. I've always just called it the West Chicago yard, which I now know is not true, and is what caused all the confusion earlier when you asked about the Harbor Belt line. :hehe:


I decided to portal out just after Elmhurst and ugh was lookin at the line going north out of Proviso sits another small yard and huge industrial parks
thats gonna be a coin toss for now.....

Gotta tell ya comin along really well............:udrool:


Thanks. :)

Yep, that would probably be Bensenville yard, the one Euphod was talking about. I'm going to stop at 294 and put in a portal. Proviso is enough for me. How you can do it is beyond me. :p

Thanks Everyone!

Steveo241
January 24th, 2011, 08:09 PM
Yep, that would probably be Bensenville yard, the one Euphod was talking about. I'm going to stop at 294 and put in a portal. Proviso is enough for me. How you can do it is beyond me. :p

Thanks Everyone!

Bensenville is a nightmare. None of the yard leads are straight which makes it next to impossible to do in Trainz.

I finished up track last night, but nothing is really worthy of a screenshot. I've been thinking how to do Union Station, scenery wise, but I've come up with nothing. I'll figure it out.

Your shots are looking good, UP! I shoulda taken the farm section while I had the chance :hehe:

Steve

UP4021
January 24th, 2011, 10:24 PM
Bensenville is a nightmare. None of the yard leads are straight which makes it next to impossible to do in Trainz.

Phew! Good. Now I'm that much happier that I left it out of the DEM.


I finished up track last night, but nothing is really worthy of a screenshot. I've been thinking how to do Union Station, scenery wise, but I've come up with nothing. I'll figure it out.

Done?!? Good god man, you're quick! Can't wait for the next update!


Your shots are looking good, UP! I shoulda taken the farm section while I had the chance :hehe:
Chance? There was never a Chance. :p

UP4021
February 12th, 2011, 03:08 AM
Just as the title suggests, this is just a fast update since the thread has been a bit dry lately. So, before my two week abscence, I thought I'd do some track laying. Nothing too interesting quite yet, so the minor pictures received a sizing down.

So...
1. I fixed some things in the West Chicago yard, such as this once atrocious bit of track laying:

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110126_0001-1.jpg
(notice curvyness)
to
http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110205_0007.jpg

2. I did this sexy bit of track laying (picture 1) as a prelude to what is to come (picture 2)

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110212_0002.jpg

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110212_0004.jpg

For those of you who can't tell (don't worry if you can't), that is the TransDEM/Google Earth-rendered map of Proviso yard

BTW, after I have my Proviso update (which will be the next one) I will start laying the 30 some miles of track between Elburn and Elmhurst. Obviously, I'm not going to waste space by posting a picture of every switch I put in, so I won't. When I start up the pictures again with scenery in Elburn, I'll make sure that it doesn't disappoint. :cool:

sfrr
February 12th, 2011, 11:13 PM
Don't forget the green bridge between Glen Ellyn and Lombard please!

41.884028,-88.034205 on google maps. :p

UP4021
February 12th, 2011, 11:18 PM
No worries man. It'll be there. :)

stmsoccer
February 12th, 2011, 11:25 PM
Large projects are fun, hope you are not too run down, clearly not because you are still creating like that.

Josh

UP4021
February 13th, 2011, 12:50 AM
Thanks Josh. :)

Well I am slightly run down, but that's for matters beyond the route. There have been other things (like reskins) I've told people I'd do. That and of course other things, school included...

<SIGH>

Moral of the story is: I could really be so much further on this if I didn't have the obcession of keeping busy.

My chance to work on this is my fun time. :p

817TAYLOR
February 19th, 2011, 04:04 PM
As a cose friend I must say this
IT IS FRKN AWSOME!
I LOVE IT ALL!

UP4021
February 19th, 2011, 04:27 PM
Thanks Taylor. :wave:

Fast update.
Steveo241 recently informed me that he won't be able to continue working with me on the route. Trainz is obviously just a game, and we all can't spend the rest of our lives glued to it. Steve needs a break, and I can understand that.
This all just meens that it'll be a little bit longer til' the release of this sucker... and I'm doin' it alone. :eek:
:hehe:
Actually, I now have confidence that I can do it, especially with all of you out there. The compliments from all you great content creators really keeps pushing me forward.
Thanks. :wave:

stmsoccer
February 19th, 2011, 04:32 PM
That is very easy to live with. Truthfuly, working on routes alone is more rewarding, In my mind, and you learn a lot on the way. My offer still stands, if you want a place to release it my site is always open.

Josh

817TAYLOR
February 20th, 2011, 08:15 PM
Hey Ben
Were you be?
I havent heard from you?
Also
Verry Impressed

daylightguy
February 20th, 2011, 08:27 PM
If You Need anythimng on the west line please sentd me a PM I live right along the line about a block away and I can give you detail about Chicago and from chicago to River Forest Also When the train reaches the Outside of Oak Park It sholuld be an elevated line and go back to ground level as it reaches may wood and when the train is heading east once it goes from maywood to river forest it should go to three tracks

UP4021
February 20th, 2011, 08:51 PM
Hey Ben
Were you be?
I havent heard from you?
Also
Verry Impressed

That would be because I was actually away from the computer if you can believe it.

BTW, please do me a favor by not filling up my PM box next time. :wave:


If You Need anythimng on the west line please sentd me a PM I live right along the line about a block away and I can give you detail about Chicago and from chicago to River Forest Also When the train reaches the Outside of Oak Park It sholuld be an elevated line and go back to ground level as it reaches may wood and when the train is heading east once it goes from maywood to river forest it should go to three tracks

Thanks daylightguy! Any info you give me will be important later.

daylightguy
February 22nd, 2011, 04:44 PM
Also the Green line parraells the line in oak park on the same level

UP4021
March 4th, 2011, 05:51 PM
Ok. That much I know.

Anywho, as the awesome signature below suggests, I have joined TrainzPA. Josh was just so flattering in his compliments and remarks that I just had to join. :hehe: Really, with all the awesome work that has been going on around there, I consider it an honor being asked to join. As one can imagine, the majority of the things I make in the future will be going there. This will include this route (and most likely some others if I ever get around to them) and some other creations, probably including some old projects I shared back around posts 1 through 10.

So, that should do it for housekeeping for now. Maybe since I have a bit of time tonight, I can actually get something done!

But for now, that's all folks.

Steveo241
March 4th, 2011, 05:57 PM
Ok. That much I know.

Anywho, as the awesome signature below suggests, I have joined TrainzPA. Josh was just so flattering in his compliments and remarks that I just had to join. :hehe: Really, with all the awesome work that has been going on around there, I consider it an honor being asked to join. As one can imagine, the majority of the things I make in the future will be going there. This will include this route (and most likely some others if I ever get around to them) and some other creations, probably including some old projects I shared back around posts 1 through 10.

So, that should do it for housekeeping for now. Maybe since I have a bit of time tonight, I can actually get something done!

But for now, that's all folks.

Congratulations, buddy. I hope to see some great stuff from you in the future. By the way, do you want the section of track that I did? It's pretty much all done.

And just to be an a**, your signature file size is too large, and the image is too large :) Haha.

UP4021
March 4th, 2011, 06:05 PM
Congratulations, buddy. I hope to see some great stuff from you in the future. By the way, do you want the section of track that I did? It's pretty much all done.

Thanks. :)

YES. That would be awesome. Thank you so much for all that you did Steve. It was really great working with you.

Steveo241
March 4th, 2011, 07:54 PM
Oh there will be other thigs I might go to you for ;) I'll send the file over to you in a little while.

stmsoccer
March 4th, 2011, 07:55 PM
I may not have seen this project on my computer yet, but I thank you as well Steve. You have been a great help.

Josh

817TAYLOR
March 14th, 2011, 06:21 PM
yo ben
you have already seen my pics but i want to say i am impressed and sorry about the post above
keep it up and let me know if you need anything i can do

UP4021
March 14th, 2011, 10:13 PM
Thanks Taylor, but I don't think that I need any help at the moment. All I need is some time to just sit down and work on it.

UP4021
March 20th, 2011, 10:32 PM
Sometime over last week (Wednesday I think) Steve sent me his half of trackwork. Over the weekend, I fit it back into place, and began re-arranging the near-flawless trackwork so that it matched the rest of mine better. So, here are some pictures from soon-to-be Chicago:

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110321_0008.jpg

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110321_0009.jpg

Missing: one OTC. :confused:
http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110321_0011.jpg

The half of the route that he sent back to me included the slightly-sceniced western end of the route which we both couldn't manage to delete. So, I cut out a new place for it in the new route and, for those who like teasers...

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110321_0002.jpg

Steveo241
March 21st, 2011, 03:33 PM
I thought I had OTC track all done. Hm. I know I did it at one point, I'll have to look around for it :confused:

Steve

Milwaukeeroad261
March 21st, 2011, 03:50 PM
chicago calls for alot of custom buildings. unfortunately i don't have any drawings or measurements so there's nothing i can do to help.

-AJ

UP4021
March 21st, 2011, 04:34 PM
I thought I had OTC track all done. Hm. I know I did it at one point, I'll have to look around for it :confused:

Steve

Ha. Nah, it's fine... unless you have it. No, I was more referring to the fact that, while I was pre-occupied with taking pictures of the outbound, the inbound took a little tumble where the station is supposted to start.

AndrewLummis_99
March 21st, 2011, 08:54 PM
Very Nice! :udrool:

metrarailboy1
March 22nd, 2011, 07:27 PM
Well I have been kinda working on my line recently. Here's A sceenie can you guess were it is? lol
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm62/metrarailboy1/11w1996.jpg

Steveo241
March 22nd, 2011, 07:39 PM
I don't think UP 1996 ever pulled the Chief/Zephyr. I'm going to guess that's Hinsdale facing east.

UP4021
March 22nd, 2011, 08:16 PM
... I'm going to guess that's Hinsdale facing east.

That'd be my best guess too.

BTW, thanks Andrew. :wave:

Milwaukeeroad261
March 22nd, 2011, 08:19 PM
wait wait time out, this is a "two" person project?

-AJ

Steveo241
March 22nd, 2011, 08:24 PM
Up until a few days ago, yes, it was. I have sent UP4021 my half of the trackwork. He will complete the rest of the layout with help (I believe) from TrainzPA.

stmsoccer
March 22nd, 2011, 08:26 PM
Ben started the project a while ago, and he had steve help him. Steve has let go of this project and given his half to Ben. Now he works on it alone.

Josh

UP4021
March 22nd, 2011, 08:29 PM
wait wait time out, this is a "two" person project?

-AJ

Well, you can sort of say that. Steveo did the trackwork in and around the downtown Chicago area, and I'm doing the rest. Other than that, Dave and metrarailboy have posted pictures of their own Chicago-based routes.

EDIT

LOL. Never mind. :hehe:

EDIT ON EDIT

Jeez, Steveo too? Man I'm slow!

metrarailboy1
March 22nd, 2011, 08:34 PM
That'd be my best guess too.

BTW, thanks Andrew. :wave:
Na here is a better shot.
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm62/metrarailboy1/MeetNaperville.jpg

Steveo241
March 22nd, 2011, 08:36 PM
Na here is a better shot.

You're making this look like a few months ago when Amtrak detoured on the West Line. But I don't know where else that could be. Clarendon Hills?

metrarailboy1
March 22nd, 2011, 08:37 PM
Well, you can sort of say that. Steveo did the trackwork in and around the downtown Chicago area, and I'm doing the rest. Other than that, Dave and metrarailboy have posted pictures of their own Chicago-based routes.

EDIT

LOL. Never mind. :hehe:
I'm doing the BNSF Sub Chicago to Aurora and maybe out to Galesburg, IL.

metrarailboy1
March 22nd, 2011, 08:37 PM
You're making this look like a few months ago when Amtrak detoured on the West Line. But I don't know where else that could be. Clarendon Hills?
No :hehe: Naperville. I know I just like when freight locomotives lead Amtrak. Makes the train look more.... shall I say "interesting."

UP4021
March 22nd, 2011, 08:44 PM
No :hehe: Naperville. I know I just like when freight locomotives lead Amtrak. Makes the train look more.... shall I say "interesting."

Ahh. I can see that now. You had me flying all over Google Earth looking for a similar place. :hehe:

metrarailboy1
March 22nd, 2011, 08:56 PM
Ahh. I can see that now. You had me flying all over Google Earth looking for a similar place. :hehe:

:p I'm trying my best to replicate the area. Just the station is a pain. I need to find stuff that will resemble what the station looks like.

UP4021
March 22nd, 2011, 09:35 PM
:p I'm trying my best to replicate the area. Just the station is a pain. I need to find stuff that will resemble what the station looks like.

I know. I was planning on making the stations myself... god knows how long that'll take. :confused:

817TAYLOR
May 16th, 2011, 10:23 PM
ben i just really love your route
i hope this doesnt fall into one of those abadoned threads for an amaizing route, kinda like mine:hehe:
but mine wasnt all good
i had to rush it
anyways
please keep us updated
have a good rest of the day and have a good week of school
ONLY 3.5 WEEKS FOR ME!

UP4021
May 16th, 2011, 11:29 PM
Yep. I'm about there myself.

I've been working on this, but I'm not really to the point where having a screenshot would be very interesting. I just took my AP test about a week ago, and with the end of the school year comes finals, so I've been pretty busy. School has really been kicking me hard this year, so progress has been slow. However, I'm slowly but surely closing in on finishing all of the trackwork, which I can maybe have done sometime early June. By that time, I can start working on the scenery: my sole purpose for making this a screenshot thread. All the posts here that were just escentially housekeeping probably should've been on a Freeware Announcements thread or something like that.



Well, since someone brought this up, I mind as well show something. This last Saturday I started working on Proviso. :eek: I've only really started work on the east bound receiving yard (see below), but am already exhausted.

Area in question:
http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/Prov1prog.jpg
(image from Google Earth)

Now, to give you a reason for my so-called exaustion:
http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110517_0000.jpg

And it's a little less than halfway done.


This is the extent of my obcession of making this as prototypically accurate as I can: I've gone so far as to roughly measure out the distance between the tracks... for every track.

Measuring in Google Earth:

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/Prov2prog.jpg

In game:

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110517_0002.jpg


Too over the top and unnecessary? Maybe, but it has produced good results so far.
If I may flaunt some recent aquisitions minus rolling stock (to save on time and frame rates):

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110517_0004.jpg

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x389/UP4021/Metra-UP%20West%20Line/UP4021_20110517_0010.jpg

Anyway, for those who have, thanks for checking in, and I hope someone likes the progress so far.
:wave:

gisa
May 16th, 2011, 11:46 PM
WOW that looks like a lot of measuring. Been there and done that...that is far from fun and beyond exhausting.

I'm not sure if it was mentioned before, but did you create this using transDEM? I'd highly recommend purchasing it and using it for two key reasons:

1) it'll make all the terrain for you
2) you can hopefully insert Google Earth tiles (images painted on a box) or MS Virtual Earth. This will help you immensely for laying track accurately.

Pretty much every person I know who has purchased transDEM was satisfied with it. I'm not on a mission to sell it or anything, but it seems to me like you are willing to put the hard work into this and I know how burnt out one can feel from trying to get everything exact (while using the default, but basic tools Auran provides - I'm not knocking them, it's just for something proto, they don't cut it IMHO).

Anyhow, whichever way you go, I'm sure it'll come out awesome in the end. :) Good luck on your exams and happy trainzing!

:wave:

Gisa ^^

UP4021
May 17th, 2011, 05:10 PM
Thanks Gisa. :)

Yeah, it isn't exactly fun. I guess it is for about the first hour or so with the help of some music, but gets a bit old after about the fifth hour. :p

Yep, I used TransDEM for this. It's really a wonderful program and, while I'm not selling it either, I would highly recommend it to anyone. I was going for the Google Earth overlay thing, but thought that the textures would cover that. I didn't get the whole UTM tile concept then. When I imported it, that is what it came up with, as the grass being a more or less purple color, and the track being kind of gray, but I just deceided to go with it. It makes me feel like I'm actually putting effort into it... and a lot of it at that. :hehe:

Thanks again for the reply Gisa.
:wave:

Steveo241
May 17th, 2011, 06:03 PM
This is really looking great, good job :)

gisa
May 17th, 2011, 08:20 PM
Thanks Gisa. :)

Yeah, it isn't exactly fun. I guess it is for about the first hour or so with the help of some music, but gets a bit old after about the fifth hour. :p

Yep, I used TransDEM for this. It's really a wonderful program and, while I'm not selling it either, I would highly recommend it to anyone. I was going for the Google Earth overlay thing, but thought that the textures would cover that. I didn't get the whole UTM tile concept then. When I imported it, that is what it came up with, as the grass being a more or less purple color, and the track being kind of gray, but I just deceided to go with it. It makes me feel like I'm actually putting effort into it... and a lot of it at that. :hehe:

Thanks again for the reply Gisa.
:wave:

You're welcome for the reply. Glad to hear you used TransDEM for it. You are using 2010 for this, so you should have no problems using layers or getting the tiles in there.

I made some tutorials which hopefully, will help clarify what you can do and how to go about doing it. Go here:

http://forum.transdem.de/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=10&sid=873ea834b217c04da8a4ce027b27736f

Sounds to me like you just got the DEM data and went from there. You are missing the WMS maps (the stuff that paints a real map into surveyor/your minimap) and the tiles. You are really missing out!

The WMS maps are really easy to get and it is fairly quick too.

As for the tiles, you basically just download Google Earth images (or another provider: Maybe MS Virtual Earth will work for you), save them, import the images and create tiles. You've done a lot of work at this point though, but it might be worth your while to reimport the tiles. In fact, I think you can import the tiles without altering your trackwork. This I don't know how to do but I am pretty sure it is possible. Dr. Ziegler (Geophil) would know.

Basically, the tiles are the most accurate way of knowing what is where. It'll save you from having to measure stuff and you'll get better accuracy as a result.

The tutorials clarify it I think and have helped others too. PM me if you are stuck or need help.

:wave:

Gisa ^^

JackieG
May 17th, 2011, 09:00 PM
That is exactly what i do for my Berea route.

UP4021
May 18th, 2011, 12:57 AM
Thanks Steve. :D

And thank you Gisa. I'll have to take a look into all that. If TransDEM can import the tiles while saving all of the previous trackwork, that would be excellent. I have to get in contact with Dr. Ziegler soon anyway, so I could probably ask him then.

:wave:

gisa
May 18th, 2011, 01:08 AM
You're welcome. I think it can be done, but he'd be the one to talk to.

Good luck!

:wave:

Gisa ^^

817TAYLOR
August 1st, 2011, 01:30 PM
i am breaking every rule i have learned and this is the last you will hear from me in about a year, but serously Ben, nothing in 5 months, you serously need to get some new pics up there. So i beg of you, dont kill off this thread, get some more pics out
well i just had to say it and i prommise i have changed, no more gimmie gimme 817Taylor
please have a good one everyone out there
-817Taylor
A.K.A. 1976Buick

kittycraft
August 1st, 2011, 02:21 PM
http://tf2wiki.net/w/images/7/7a/Scout_jeers11.wav
My friend explains my thought on what happened here.

tyard
August 1st, 2011, 04:35 PM
[facepalm]
No offense, but that post was bursting with irony...

EDIT: Not directed at you Kitty

UP4021
August 1st, 2011, 08:50 PM
[facepalm]
No offense, but that post was bursting with irony...

EDIT: Not directed at you Kitty

Indeed. :hehe:

Alright. I'm sorry I haven't had any updates. Remarkably, I've deceided to do what I figure teens my age should be doing, and going out and having a life. Even more remarkably, I've been liking it so far. That and I've been working on stuff for TrainzPA, and quite funnily enough... even you Taylor. So the long and short of it is that I haven't had time for it. Sorry. :(

sniper297
August 1st, 2011, 11:36 PM
Rather than just trashing it, I would suggest upload what you got as "abandonware", let whoever wants to take over and finish if you're no longer interested. Could hardly be worse than some of the really stupid routes I've seen on the DLS with straight mainlines on flat bare baseboards with a few trees. :sleep:

Proviso has defeated many before you, I knew at least 4 people who tried to build it in MSTS, one guy worked on it for years before he finally faded away. Proviso is the elephant in the old kid's joke;

How do you get an elephant into a milk bottle? (this was in the days when milk came in glass bottles, dunno what the current version is)

Answer; You need a milk bottle, an elephant, a pair of tweezers, and a telescope. Turn the telescope around and look at the elephant through the wrong end, so he's really small. Pick him up with the tweezers and put him in the milk bottle. :hehe:

That's Proviso, for any train simulator the best way is to try to capture the flavor of a railroad while compromising prototype accuracy for the limitations of computers - don't make your elephant too big to fit in the bottle.

UP4021
August 2nd, 2011, 01:58 AM
Lol. Alright, I won't deny that I was a bit ambitious. Modeling about 50 miles of track plus one of the largest yards in the third largest city in America apparently didn't seem as daunting when I started this a year ago. :hehe:

Thanks for the suggestion sniper. Perhaps I'll look into it in a couple of years when I expect to be leaving for college. However, I certainly haven't given up on this yet. I promised decent pictures, and so decent pictures you shall receive. When this will in fact be: I'm not so sure yet. It'll happen though! You'll see! ;)

Anywho, I sort of have made some progress on this. When Jointed Rail released it's freeware virsion of their track, I've been testing it on the route. Happily, it has made the difference of about one frame per second at the most on my already terrible machine, so I may end up using it on the rest of the route. However, seeing as it took me all of about 10 seconds to replace the track, I didn't think it worthy of digging this up.

On a side note, I would like to thank whoever voted this thread up from the daunting two stars up to the much more managable three stars. It is really a confidence booster.

:wave:

sniper297
August 2nd, 2011, 11:35 AM
Well, it's easy for me to say, I attempted the part of the route that interests me (from downtown to Proviso, been to Geneva a few times and never had the desire to model it, no offense! :D ) several times in MSTS and railsim/railworks, even doing it as a fictional route the tricky part is duplicating the volume of traffic with playable framerates. Bushes and trees and houses are nice things, very pretty, but for a train simulator the trains themselves are the most interesting part of any scenery to me, so I focus on trains. The rest of the scenery is merely there to add background for the trains, to fill out the scene and add to the illusion. That's strictly my own personal taste, I know most people prefer 600 zillion blades of grass and 400 thousand trees and bushes with track and train added almost as an afterthought, screw the framerates, but that don't do it for me.

First time I saw a really big yard in MSTS I thought it looked like a lot of track, what's missing? Trains, of course! Okay, so fill up the big yard with freight cars, 3 frames per year slideshow. :'( Came up with the static train concept to get around that;

http://www.trainsim.com/vbts/showthread.php?239724-Static-trains

Trainz already had some static and spline scenery trains when I got here, I made my own set for my 40s-50s era passion;

http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=76129

Even with those workarounds I still need to compromise to keep framerates in the playable range. I had Proviso about 10% of the actual size, and had to cut it down even further to make it look like it was full of cars without tanking the framerates. Few shots of the current version;

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/5471/95569478.jpg

Overview looking west from 25th, doesn't really resemble the prototype but I can switch cars in it, got about 100 real cars and 100 fake "static train" cars.

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4975/27137601.jpg

Inside the yard at ground level that's mainly what you'd see anyway.

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9199/49553068.jpg

Looking east toward Maywood.

Others may have different priorities, but I have three important things in mind when I'm creating a route;
1. Framerates
2. Framerates
3. Framerates

My final goal is to make something I can run trains on, if I can't run trains on it with playable framerates then to me it doesn't matter how pretty or realistic it is. It's not about the screenshots, it's about the videos! :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k4cDDhVAao

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2jn0w2VoNI

UP4021
August 2nd, 2011, 09:43 PM
[quote=sniper297;840281]Well, it's easy for me to say, I attempted the part of the route that interests me (from downtown to Proviso, been to Geneva a few times and never had the desire to model it, no offense! :D ) [\quote]

None taken. I personally find it a beautiful area, which is my main reason for modeling it. For me, it's seeing the greenery in town and the fields out west while watching the trains move through it. So yes, my goal is to go for the better screenshot rather than the better video. Actually, being the perfectionist that I am, I'm probably going to try to get everything as exact as I can. Yes, I know that that is probably the worst thing that I can do for a route like this. However, this is very much a labor of love for me, and so I will try to make it as perfect as I can. What this means for a release date, I'm not sure yet. What I might end up doing is break it up into like a west, central, and east so I can at least get it out to all of you.

This isn't to say that I don't appreciate your suggestions sniper. I'm sure that I'll find places where I can compromise some detail in order to contribute to a better finished product. It is a great thing to think about going ahead, but I think that I can better cross that bridge when I reach it.

Thanks. :wave:

Colin976
November 27th, 2011, 06:17 PM
Looks absolutely amazing! I live along this line ( Villa Park but I railfan Elmhurst all the time ). I just switched over from MSTS to Trainz 2012. I have made half the line for MSTS. I have a bunch of shapes made that should be able to convert for trainz fairly easily. Any thing else I can help with please let me know. I also have some route charts and diagrams of the route from Chicago to Clinton that include the change in grades along the line, sidings, stuff like that. Email me at colinmucha@gmail.com if you need anything. Cant wait for this to be released!

Colin

sniper297
November 27th, 2011, 06:30 PM
Hee-hee, I think you're gonna have to wait, if you read the whole thread he started over a year ago and announced putting it on a back shelf almost 4 months ago. Want something to play with while you're waiting;

Chicago Metro 2.2,<kuid2:522774:100023:2>

Fictional route that only goes as far west as Bellwood, but it does capture the flavor of the C&NW Galena line and you can always clone it and extend the line out to Villa Park. Or Lombard or Wheaton or wherever you run out of ambition. :hehe:

Steveo241
November 27th, 2011, 07:46 PM
Looks absolutely amazing! I live along this line ( Villa Park but I railfan Elmhurst all the time ). I just switched over from MSTS to Trainz 2012. I have made half the line for MSTS. I have a bunch of shapes made that should be able to convert for trainz fairly easily. Any thing else I can help with please let me know. I also have some route charts and diagrams of the route from Chicago to Clinton that include the change in grades along the line, sidings, stuff like that. Email me at colinmucha@gmail.com if you need anything. Cant wait for this to be released!

Colin

What's up Colin?

I just restarted work on my end, since Ben informed me that he hasn't really changed anything on my side, so I'll upgrade crossings to ATLS, do some trackwork over again, extend it all the way to the end, textures, etc.

@Mucha, my half is Ogilvie to.. around St. Charles Road I think it was. I don't know if there's stuff that needed to be custom made for that portion but if there is, let me know. Good to see you've switched over from the dark side and got your Australian Money Issues resolved :p

Steve

metrarailboy1
November 27th, 2011, 09:01 PM
Looks absolutely amazing! I live along this line ( Villa Park but I railfan Elmhurst all the time ). I just switched over from MSTS to Trainz 2012. I have made half the line for MSTS. I have a bunch of shapes made that should be able to convert for trainz fairly easily. Any thing else I can help with please let me know. I also have some route charts and diagrams of the route from Chicago to Clinton that include the change in grades along the line, sidings, stuff like that. Email me at colinmucha@gmail.com if you need anything. Cant wait for this to be released!

Colin
I do not think the forums over at Train Sim would be happy... Lol Glad you finally came over, about damn time you did too. :) Now lets get started on Chicago's Metra System.

Colin976
November 27th, 2011, 10:15 PM
Thanks for the welcome guys. Time to start learning the ins and outs of this game.

Colin

UP4021
November 27th, 2011, 11:56 PM
Well well well. What's all this now?

So here I am yesterday, fixing problems and answering questions based on the recent TrainzPA release... and maybe possibly working on a few releases of my own... when I look on Facebook and see that Steven here posted on my wall saying that he might want to start working on this again. So... I guess it's about time something got done.

Colin, it's good to hear from you. Apparently everyone here knows you but me. But yeah, any help from you would be greatly appreciated, and I hope to keep in touch. Same goes to you Steve. It's good to have you back.

Colin976
November 28th, 2011, 02:37 PM
I was a MSTS nut for a while and was working on the UP West for that game. Thats how these guys know me, at least how Ryan knows me :D.

Like I said I have track charts that include elevations and a couple other goodies that have info about the route. I also have a bunch of custom station shapes from stations along the line, including a OTC, some bridges and a couple other random bits. Im starting some research on shape making for this game now, seeing how many polys are acceptable and how detailed I can get.

I read somewhere I think that JR does commissions? If I didn't imagine that I might look into getting a Metra set done up from them. Gorgeous equipment to go with a gorgeous route :)

Colin

Steveo241
November 28th, 2011, 08:19 PM
OTC? Damn, we might actually have a good route going here after all! If you can figure out how to convert those files, Colin, send them over to me since that's on my section of the route. I have to redo a few sections I did sloppily and try to make it seem like I did those parts with the effort I did California Avenue shops with! :hehe:

Yup, it'll be nice to work on something more than a shortline again.

Steve

metrarailboy1
November 28th, 2011, 08:41 PM
OTC? Damn, we might actually have a good route going here after all! If you can figure out how to convert those files, Colin, send them over to me since that's on my section of the route. I have to redo a few sections I did sloppily and try to make it seem like I did those parts with the effort I did California Avenue shops with! :hehe:

Yup, it'll be nice to work on something more than a shortline again.

Steve
I have Union Station complete from there out to Monte Claire so if you want to merge let me know. Also if you like I can help by working on the trackage. :)

Steveo241
November 28th, 2011, 09:11 PM
That's the Milwaukee District Lines however, but I saw that you did pretty great with scenery and texturing as well. I have trackwork pretty much all done, minus the far west half which is just straight three track mainline. Let me know if you're interested in scenery.

metrarailboy1
November 28th, 2011, 09:36 PM
That's the Milwaukee District Lines however, but I saw that you did pretty great with scenery and texturing as well. I have trackwork pretty much all done, minus the far west half which is just straight three track mainline. Let me know if you're interested in scenery.


Yes, Yes of coarse. That is actually what I'm good at. :hehe:

UP4021
November 28th, 2011, 10:23 PM
OTC? Damn, we might actually have a good route going here after all! If you can figure out how to convert those files, Colin, send them over to me since that's on my section of the route. <SNIP>

Or even if you want to send them to me, I'd love the chance to try to convert them.

Amtrak72
November 29th, 2011, 07:12 PM
Wonder if I could help. I'm (trying) to re-create the UP-NW line (Chicago to Harvard). Not coming out well but i'm managing.

My dream is to make the entire metra system, butI think thats a bit to much :confused: to dream about.

817TAYLOR
December 6th, 2011, 08:50 PM
Never Huirts To Dream
it has been a while seince i was on this map
i think ben will get back to you soon

Chelsea4884
December 26th, 2011, 07:35 PM
I've been working on a model of the south and southwest sides: Union Station south to 49th, southwest along Archer/i-55 to Western, and E-W along 42nd from Western to Canal, including Norfolk Southern's Ashland yard. This area intrigues me because of how many lines terminate or pass through these corridors. Shortly after completing the trackwork, a friend looked over my shoulder and asked why the sun was rising north of the loop. Sure enough, i had laid out the whole thing with east in the north! Rotated 90 degrees! A mammoth "rotate" command crashed my system... so the sun rises north of the loop on my route...
But man, am I looking forward to seeing the product of this thread, esp the custom content! I'll add a screenshot or two of my route soon.

UP4021
December 26th, 2011, 11:57 PM
Excellent! Yeah, I've been kept pretty occupied with either taking care of TrainzPA or working on this little steam loco I've been working on on and off since March. However, I'm quickly nearing completion on that. As soon I have that on it's way toward completion, this is going to get a lot more of my attention.

Oh, and Amtrak72. Sorry, I've been a bit busy over the past few months, and I haven't been on the forums as often as I used to. I'm afraid I must've skipped over your post somehow. :confused: Anyway, if you'd like to help, we could always get in touch through PM. I'm sure there's something you can help with.

Amtrak72
December 27th, 2011, 03:44 PM
sounds good. i havent been working on my route for a while. I've beendoing other things now. I havent forgot about it....(yet:eek: )

Chelsea4884
December 27th, 2011, 10:22 PM
Screenshots from my Chicago Southwest Side route. I am wide open to comments and suggestions.

View north from Roosevelt Rd over Union Station south yard.
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/396612_336656846345261_100000028452207_1388945_174 2264660_n.jpg

Crossing Lumber St southbound onto the lift bridge across the Chicago River.
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/386262_336656903011922_100000028452207_1388947_195 3887853_n.jpg

Passing thru 21st St Jct, across CN tracks and below CTA Orange Line viaduct.
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/408865_336657006345245_100000028452207_1388950_969 438101_n.jpg

Crossing 26th St or so, thru Chinatown / Bridgeport.
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/377104_336657046345241_100000028452207_1388951_188 6900509_n.jpg

Approaching 35th St and Cellular field (Comiskey Park), including the parking garage they never -- but should have -- built.
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/387252_336657066345239_100000028452207_1388952_683 726615_n.jpg


Passing thru junction with NS at 42nd Street.
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/381237_336657079678571_100000028452207_1388953_111 4547579_n.jpg


Looking north along the viaduct from 44th St. Tracks to left lead to NS's Ashland Yard -- under construction.
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/408539_336657119678567_100000028452207_1388954_863 25076_n.jpg


Thanks for riding!

metrarailboy1
December 28th, 2011, 11:04 AM
Hey Chelsea,


If possible could you send me that and I can update it with JR objects and add in the BNSF Line for it?

Chelsea4884
December 30th, 2011, 11:19 PM
JR objects? Oh right: Jointed Rail. yes, definitely.
Look at the third image, Metra SB thru 21st St Jct. Note the morning sun in the ... north :confused:. This route is rotated 90 degrees clockwise. :'( I look forward to merging the work of others into my route and figurig out my own way of weaving them together, but I would not expect others to want to try to fit my screwed-up model into theirs... So sad...
That said: To which BNSF do you refer? West along 16th St? I have modelled it west to about Racine, just east of the BNSF yard. Or SW along I-55 / Chicago River? I have modelled it out to 45th & California. I'll see about making a CDP and emailing it to you, or is there another method?

mtldrm38
December 30th, 2011, 11:27 PM
are ya meaning 49th and california along the GTW/CRI