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RJPugh
April 27th, 2010, 09:31 AM
Does anyone know if there is a model/mesh out there for a cog railway? You know, the ones that have ridiculous grades and crawl up the side of mountains? Mt. Washington in New Hampshire has one.

If someone knows where one of these can be obtained, please speak up. I'm still combing through the forums and file sites and haven't yet found one, so any "shortcuts" would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

-R

cascaderailroad
April 27th, 2010, 09:44 AM
I don't know if any slanted loco's are made in Trainz. But I would like a DEM made of that RR area. The "COG" is COOL ! ! !

Other similar neat RR's are Mt Lowe RR, Pikes Peak RR, Mt Tamalapais Gravity RR, Reading Gravity RR, White Pass & Yukon Rwy.

tardis626
April 27th, 2010, 10:12 AM
I have been working on some track for a while.

If I ever release it (soon hopefully) I will PM you



Regards,
Phil

clam1952
April 27th, 2010, 10:13 AM
Does anyone know if there is a model/mesh out there for a cog railway? You know, the ones that have ridiculous grades and crawl up the side of mountains? Mt. Washington in New Hampshire has one.

If someone knows where one of these can be obtained, please speak up. I'm still combing through the forums and file sites and haven't yet found one, so any "shortcuts" would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

-R

I've seen some rack track somewhere, ages ago may have been on the DLS but I suspect it was on one of the European Sites, think it was 800mm Rack Track, was looking for narrow gauge at the time if that helps at all.

Danieldd4
April 27th, 2010, 10:19 AM
Does anyone know if there is a model/mesh out there for a cog railway? You know, the ones that have ridiculous grades and crawl up the side of mountains? Mt. Washington in New Hampshire has one.

If someone knows where one of these can be obtained, please speak up. I'm still combing through the forums and file sites and haven't yet found one, so any "shortcuts" would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

-R

Ah that WOULD BE cool to have a cog railway... :)


I don't know if any slanted loco's are made in Trainz. But I would like a DEM made of that RR area. The "COG" is COOL ! ! !

Other similar neat RR's are Mt Lowe RR, Pikes Peak RR, Mt Tamalapais Gravity RR, Reading Gravity RR, White Pass & Yukon Rwy.

Only one I have been on is Pikes Peak Twice as a matter of fact once in mid summer out there and once 2 years ago in February and my god was it cold on the summit in Feb. :'(

cascaderailroad
April 27th, 2010, 10:54 AM
The Cog Rwy at Mount Washington has on average 210 cloudy days per year. The summit is usually 50 degrees colder than the base station. It can be below zero at the summit in spring and autumn. Wintertime temps on Mt Washington have claimed thousands of lives throughout history, as it commonly gets well below -30, with wind speeds in excess of 125mph. In Autumn (September) in NH, sometimes the train cuts service to the summit, and only goes to the halfway point on the mountain, due to cold and snow in the upper elevations.

barn700
April 27th, 2010, 11:09 AM
I have a small demo rounte and track

http://www.paulztrainz.myenet.info/inside/ABTMining.htm

JCitron
April 27th, 2010, 11:17 AM
The Cog Rwy at Mount Washington has on average 210 cloudy days per year. The summit is usually 50 degrees colder than the base station. It can be below zero at the summit in spring and autumn. Wintertime temps on Mt Washington have claimed thousands of lives throughout history, as it commonly gets well below -30, with wind speeds in excess of 125mph. In Autumn (September) in NH, sometimes the train cuts service to the summit, and only goes to the halfway point on the mountain, due to cold and snow in the upper elevations.

I was up there on an exceptionally warm clear day back in August 1984. We drove up instead of taking the train, which was extremely expensive even back then. The trains were cool to watch though when they reached the summit. There were little spurs for them to pull on to like a small yard.

On the DLS, look for rack track. <kuid:177548:10003> by Barn700.

This is another name for cog. Unfortunately I've never seen any rolling stock to go with it, otherwise I would build a cog railway myself.

John

RJPugh
April 27th, 2010, 11:28 AM
I have been working on some track for a while.

If I ever release it (soon hopefully) I will PM you

Regards,
Phil

Thanks! But don't tell only me. Apparently there is a demand for these little guys!

As for prototype cogs, I've considered building a simulation of the Crawford Notch spur of the Boston & Maine RR; the scenery is fantastic! Naturally,"The COG" would be a side session within this larger simulation.

My current project is what I call a "re-imagining" of the famous Gorre & Daphetid. (Of which several already exist, so I'm in good company.) I thought a cog railway would be a good way to reach the Eagle's Nest Lodge. The original model had passengers reaching the lodge by riding a platform lifted by a crane... yikes!

Danieldd4
April 27th, 2010, 11:38 AM
The Cog Rwy at Mount Washington has on average 210 cloudy days per year. The summit is usually 50 degrees colder than the base station. It can be below zero at the summit in spring and autumn. Wintertime temps on Mt Washington have claimed thousands of lives throughout history, as it commonly gets well below -30, with wind speeds in excess of 125mph. In Autumn (September) in NH, sometimes the train cuts service to the summit, and only goes to the halfway point on the mountain, due to cold and snow in the upper elevations.


Sounds something like Colorado / Pikes Peak in the winter months they still run all the way to the summit (If they can keep the track clear from snow......) But they only do it one or two days a week if I recall and only once a day(again in winter)

The day we went up in Feb. 08 it was nice at the base of the Mt. I would say 40 50 degrees f By the time we got to the summit it was I have no idea but COLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The wind was blowing what seemed like 100 mph LOL........ They still opened the summit gift shop / snack while the train is there (the crew that runs the gift shop rides up on the one daily train and rides back....)

The windows on the gift shop are all boarded up in the winter and all outside fixtures that can be moved or in storage.

I notice in the corner of the gift shop / snack bar that there was a broken window and the board had been pulled away at the bottom I asked the conductor what happened there when we got back to the train he said a hiker had hiked to the summit and the weather turned BAD in the blink of an eye and they could not get back down so the hiker broke into the gift shop / snack bar. And was able to call for help and have shelter till they got to him....... The conductor said they charged the man for his rescue and for the damage to the shop...

Our summertime trip there was very nice it was 80 + at the bottom and only about 50 at the summit...... :) It was nice to walk around up there in the summer and look around..... Wintertime however I was ready to get the heck out of there as soon as we got there LOL ....

amigacooke
April 27th, 2010, 11:52 AM
Searching with user name cyberstorm might turn up something useful for you.

llebrez
April 27th, 2010, 11:59 AM
The White Pass and Yukon... I have traveled it and I did not see any racks. Maybe the fog.. but no, I don't think so.. On another related thing; making the track with the cog is a no brainer, as there are a number of them in the DLS. They are all in NG (as in the real World). What I would like to see is the cog only, so we can "insert' it into any track. That should be quite easy, yes?

BarryRiedl
May 8th, 2010, 06:35 PM
Two Thomas the tank engine locos (whose real-life counterparts work on wales' Snowdon Mountain Railway) are available here:
http://si3d.jimdo.com/locos/railway-series-locos/
They are for 800mm gauge.
:)
Barry

cascaderailroad
May 27th, 2010, 09:02 AM
Bump ... It's getting to be Mount Washington Cog Rwy operating season again, soon ... take the train ... the mountain automobile road will burn up you engine on the way up, and tear up your brakes on the way down.:cool:

I would love to see a DEM made of the Mt Washington Cog Rwy area, beautifull scenery.

cascaderailroad
May 14th, 2013, 10:51 AM
Rejuvenating the Mount Washington COG Rwy thread ... Because I ... "Like It" !

Devils shingle: http://www.cog-railway.com/devils.htm
60 miles an hour in a runaway Radio Flyer wagon.

Only 3 miles of track ... think we need a DEM of Mt Washington.

Make the DEM, and I will do the route, and release it.

RJPugh
September 17th, 2013, 02:36 PM
After a long absence from the world of Trainz, I have returned. And I'm still looking at Cog railways as possible side-sessions of a larger simulation. To recap, Cyberstorm has made 800mm track with a cog rack. Are there any appropriate locomotives available? Someone mentioned some Thomas locomotives that can be adapted. Has anyone tried this?

If the Thomas locos can be adapted, then I say it's time to start coggin'! All one would really have to do is re-skin one of those. Thomas, Percy, Skarloey, Rheneas, Lady and Duncan could all make close approximations of one of the two locomotives used at Mt. Washington. They aren't exact matches, but they are very similar in style. And since each cog loco seems to be unique, there shouldn't be many prototype purists making noise.
:hehe:

On a related note, is there an FAQ out there about how to re-paint locomotives or rolling stock? Looking ahead, I'll want my locomotives to have my chosen livery colors.

cascaderailroad
September 17th, 2013, 02:37 PM
All we need is a Mt Washington DEM ... and it's a GO !

Edit: A DEM is a 3D Digital Elevation Model of the terrain greated by HOG, or Transdem (which is Greek to me).

RJPugh
September 17th, 2013, 02:54 PM
What exactly is a DEM again? I'm drawing a blank on that one.

Scottbe8
September 17th, 2013, 05:17 PM
Stands for digital elevation map, it's a file that encodes the shape of the terrain and can be imported into Trainz.

gfisher
September 17th, 2013, 06:17 PM
The Pike's Peak terrain is on the DLS: 2300:1010076:1

I could have sworn the Mt. Washington terrain was done by someone a long time ago, but I couldn't find it after a quick search.

cascaderailroad
September 17th, 2013, 08:07 PM
If someone makes the DEM, I will tackle it ... it looks like a pretty easy squiggly line up the mountain ... I have researched the COG Rwy, and find that mountain totally fascinating !

It is a must see, for all railfans !

JCitron
September 17th, 2013, 08:23 PM
I'm glad to see you're still around Mr. Pugh.

I highly recommend purchasing TransDem. It's only about $33.00 US and will allow you to capture the elevation information off of the National Geological Survey national map system, match this up with topographic maps and then import this into Trainz. There is a bit of a learning curve, but once you do it even once, you'll be hooked. :)

John

RRSignal
September 17th, 2013, 08:34 PM
I'll second that - it's even kind of fun, once you've figured out the proper resources.