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trainzessex
January 30th, 2010, 12:22 PM
my first layout for trs 2004 shoeburyness to fenchurch street


http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1655/trainz2010013016060190.jpg[/url]

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/825/trainz2010013016060920.jpg (http://img98.imageshack.us/i/trainz2010013016060920.jpg/])

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/9550/trainz2010013016194552.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/trainz2010013016194552.jpg/])

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8477/trainz2010013016171362.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/trainz2010013016171362.jpg/)

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7199/trainz2010013016211325.jpg (http://img709.imageshack.us/i/trainz2010013016211325.jpg/)

Alex99al
January 30th, 2010, 02:01 PM
That's a very nice start. Just two questions though, is it a freight and passenger route, or is it just a passenger route.

trainzessex
January 30th, 2010, 02:07 PM
That's a very nice start. Just two questions though, is it a freight and passenger route, or is it just a passenger route.


it will be both about 35 miles of track and 2 or 3 freight and 20 passenger platform

trainzessex
January 31st, 2010, 07:08 AM
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9467/tilburytown.jpg (http://img69.imageshack.us/i/tilburytown.jpg/])

Passager train just pulled it to Tilbury Town


http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1889/tilburyriverside.jpg (http://img193.imageshack.us/i/tilburyriverside.jpg/])
1 passage train leaving Tilbury Riverside Station and 1 entering Tilbury Riverside

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7132/onwaytostanfordlehope.jpg


Passager train on way to Stanford Le Hope Station


http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/1259/tankersonwaytopurfleet.jpg (http://img31.imageshack.us/i/tankersonwaytopurfleet.jpg/)

Tankers leaving Station Le Hope on way to Purfleet refinery

more info

Run coal from coal mine to power stations ,
run fuel from refinery to power stations and fuel depot

full passager trains from Shoeburyness via Pitsea via Grays to Fenchurch Street

trains still to tba

feed back welcome

Alex99al
February 2nd, 2010, 10:01 AM
I just have one more question, will Fowler 4F 0-6-0s take excursions or will everything be diesel hauled?

trainzessex
February 2nd, 2010, 12:45 PM
I just have one more question, will Fowler 4F 0-6-0s take excursions or will everything be diesel hauled?


im have both electrical and diesel few more screen shot coming at weekend of power line added to work so far

tmz06003
February 2nd, 2010, 12:48 PM
That's a good start, keep at it- building a route that size should take you a few years!

A few comments that may be of use- change the default Auran track, I'd recommend the MP track wood/ MP track concrete range on the DLS. You can do this globally using Trainz Objects which takes a few minutes, you don't have to relay it all again and it looks much more realistic.

Some ground textures repeat in a pattern when applied, if you press the [ key on your keyboard (next to P) while painting the ground it rotates the texture and looks much better. Obviously don't do this with ploughed field textures!

HTH.

BTW what is the electric unit you are using, it shows class 313 on the front (?) but doesn't look like zxr400s class 313?

trainzessex
February 2nd, 2010, 12:53 PM
thank you tmz06003 i change track MP track wood/ MP track concrete

did not know about the textures thank you

did not know it would take that long

thanks again tmz06003

Wessex_Electric_Nutter
February 2nd, 2010, 03:57 PM
Just wondering, what version of Trainz are you running? There is prototypical stock for the era you are modelling, but depending what version of trainz you are running.

trainzessex
February 2nd, 2010, 04:02 PM
Just wondering, what version of Trainz are you running? There is prototypical stock for the era you are modelling, but depending what version of trainz you are running.



trainz 2004

tmz06003
February 2nd, 2010, 06:59 PM
Just wondering, what version of Trainz are you running? There is prototypical stock for the era you are modelling, but depending what version of trainz you are running.

Your class 302 does work in TRS2004 with a few modifications...:)

Joe_T
February 2nd, 2010, 07:28 PM
Trainzessex do a DLS search for zxr400 as he has made class 313's which will work in 2004 and also look like the real thing. Also if WEN pulls his finger out and gets his 302's released you can use them as well :) Not a bad start though. If you need any help on putting up the OHLE let me know and I will give you some advice :)

trainzessex
February 3rd, 2010, 12:31 PM
changing track now

done a search DLS for zxr400 as he has made class 313's have some pic soon

Alex99al
February 3rd, 2010, 01:22 PM
It just keeps getting better and better. 5 stars for everything. I can see it as a great starter route, for those who are interested in small routes.

trainzessex
February 3rd, 2010, 01:51 PM
3 new photos of change made

on way to Tilbury Town London bound

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4717/onwaytotilburytown.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/onwaytotilburytown.jpg/])


Tilbury Riverside loop

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6633/onwaytolondonmissingout.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/i/onwaytolondonmissingout.jpg/])

On way to East Tilbury london bound

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/7701/onwaytoeasttilburylondo.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/onwaytoeasttilburylondo.jpg/)

trainzessex
February 3rd, 2010, 02:04 PM
3 other photos

Tilbury Docks Container Port



http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1364/tilburydocks.jpg[/url]


Tilbury Power Station

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9172/tilburypowerstation.jpg (http://img690.imageshack.us/i/tilburypowerstation.jpg/)


Coryton Refinery near Stanford Le Hope


http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/213/corytonrefinery.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/corytonrefinery.jpg/])

tmz06003
February 3rd, 2010, 04:11 PM
You may be interested in this container crane on the DLS:

kuid2:60238:38526:1

This is a Trainz model of the actual Freightliner crane at Tilbury.

Vulcan built a range of UK container cranes from photos supplied by me, see this thread on the UK Trainz forum for details:

http://forum.uktrainz.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=112&t=6069

What started off as a model of the Portobello Freightliner crane (Edinburgh) for the TRS2010 ECML route was widened to form the Tilbury crane. These cranes are identical except for width.

HTH.

schoolhater
February 3rd, 2010, 04:25 PM
Cool I like to see this route made, considering I live near one of the stations:) Are you basing it off special data of some sort?

Tom Hughes

Wessex_Electric_Nutter
February 3rd, 2010, 06:10 PM
Your class 302 does work in TRS2004 with a few modifications...:)

http://81.6.245.27/files/EMU/Class 30257.cdp

Try that, you will have to modify the build number in the config and the bogie tags.

Basically, copy the bogey tags to a safe place (a new notepad window) then go in and delete what you copied. With each number, copy the KUID bit to bogey <KUID:xxx:xxx>
bogey-1 <KUID:xxx:xxx>
etc.

Wessex_Electric_Nutter
February 3rd, 2010, 06:14 PM
Your class 302 does work in TRS2004 with a few modifications...:)

Not just Class 302s, Class 305/308s used the route before Tilbury Riverside closed. 310s came in also right at the end, Class 312 however, were too late, along with the 357s.

trainzessex
February 4th, 2010, 01:05 PM
thank you tmz 06003 for the link to Freightliner crane

schoolhater i using my memory of use the route from 70's and 80's
and adding extra stuff for everyone more freights and passagers

wessex electric nutter i download but cant get it to show up but thank you anyway

trainzessex
February 7th, 2010, 09:35 AM
due to pc crashing had to start over again :'(

some pic coming soon


"] ("http://img189.imageshack.us/i/easttilburystation.jpg/)

trainzessex
February 7th, 2010, 04:08 PM
Full on way to Purfleet by Walton Common Level crossing



http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1395/fullonwaytopurfleetbywa.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/fullonwaytopurfleetbywa.jpg/])


full on way to Purfleet just passed East Tilbury


http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7837/fullonwaytopurfleet.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/i/fullonwaytopurfleet.jpg/)


empty on way back passing though Tilbury Town


http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2091/emptyonwaybackpassingti.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/emptyonwaybackpassingti.jpg/)

angelah
February 7th, 2010, 05:27 PM
May I suggest you go have a look at some of the routes on the Screenshots section before you keep posting blank boards with just track on.
Maybe even download a couple of routes and have a look at other people's work to see what really can be done with this amazing program called Trainz.
For instance, the way trees and scrub are used, scrub especially around the base of trees alongside tracks and the different types of trees.
There is a wide variety of grasses on the DS, splines by Jankvis and FMA are great, for you to use and bring some life to your route.
What you can also do is use Google Earth to view the area you wish to create and often there are little blue markers that, when clicked on, will enlarge into a picture taken of the place and that gives you more detail to work with.
It is very tempting to go dashing along just laying track and nothing else, in fact it is necessary sometimes for short distances and Trainz does seem to make that very easy. But the real test for a creator is to bring each section to life, preferably so we can see your progress.
Keep working, you have an interesting route there, but please put more detail in before each screenshot is my advice.

I am not talking out of my hat - I don't wear one! Here are two shots to demonstrate my theory. These are on my route to Westbury and at a place called Froxfield. One is the actual place, the other my interpretation of it as best I can in Trainz. You won't get things exactly right but you can get fairly close.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/angelajaneh/Froxfield.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/angelajaneh/Froxfield2.jpg

The grasses are splines as mentioned above. Pop to the DLS and get yourself some. Trees are JVC and Greenery.
Angela

angelah
February 9th, 2010, 09:48 AM
trainzessex,
I have had a look at this route in GE and to be honest even I would have to give creating it a lot of consideration, it is a massive project. I know it's only 35 miles, but it runs through practically all human habitation; I mean housing, and masses of it.
Also there is the Eurostar mainline running alongside for quite a way and that's elevated, apart from miles of elevated track on the rails you will have to lay. It is not a route for the faint-hearted and certainly not for a first one.

However, I have looked around Essex as I assume that is where you live and found a line running from Norwich to Yarmouth that looks quite good as a starter. It's mostly countryside so you will be able to use textures a lot and get plenty of practice in. At each end there are towns of course so plenty to keep you occupied working out which asset will suit the real one on the ground.
This is one trouble with creating an actual existing railway line, people can go see it so you need to get it somewhere near right and it is not easy.
But a country one with a town at the ends lends itself well, and you get to go to the seaside too!
Have a look at it on Google Earth. You can zoom in fairly close, but really close it gets fuzzy, so stay away just a bit. There are some of the blue patches along the line so you can see pictures taken by people and get an idea what the scenery is like.
I know you meant well but perhaps picked the wrong route to start in Trainz with, highly complicated and detailed ones take a long time and your enthusiasm can wane. I know, I have built long routes, they are on the DLS, but they take a couple of years to do. Even the Kent & East Sussex route I did took 18 months at least and that's all in the country.
So don't get disheartened. You have only just begun on the road into the wonderful world of Trainz and there is an awful lot to learn. Best thing to do is download a couple of routes and have a look at how people have gone about creating them, that will give you some good ideas.
Getting used to texturing isn't the easiest of things, but it is very necessary otherwise the ground looks awful, just flat and all one colour and that isn't how it is in nature.
Try not to use all built-in assets either, especially trees, there is plenty on the DLS to go get and that will improve the way your routes look.

There are some very nice shrub and tree sets on this site for you to get....
http://www.greenery.name/mstsg/mstsgd.htm?trainz,2

and loads of stuff on here....
http://www.trainz.hu/index.php?sel_lang=english

These are well known sites so most folk use assets from them.

Go on the DLS and search for textures, like sand and grasses, oh and scrub, they will bring the background out a lot and liven it up.

But practice. I did for 2 years before I felt good enough to post a shot here.

Angela

trainzessex
February 9th, 2010, 12:51 PM
thank you angelah
i think i leave fenchurch street for a bit and have a look at Norwich to Yarmouth line

angelah
February 9th, 2010, 02:26 PM
thank you angelah
i think i leave fenchurch street for a bit and have a look at Norwich to Yarmouth line

Hi,
A wise choice. The other route is highly built up in both housing and factories as well as heavily wooded in places, all things that will slow your Trainz frame rate drastically and therefore running a route.
There is another veiwing platform called the Planning Portal. It isn't the easiest of things to use but once you can it is very helpful. It isn't like GE because it shows the ground as a plan, not as it is all trees and things, so is handy for checking where buildings go and often what they are, and of course looking at track plans because you can click in very close indeed.
Link here :-
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/planningportal/MapInterfaceServlet?mapaction=init&mapMode=7&bigMap=false&x=354180.0&y=333700.0&area=50000000&areas=4,16&prices=19.65,49.15&feesWithoutVat=17.09,42.74&vatAmount=2.56,6.41

Also this one, Maps Live :-
http://www.bing.com/maps/

Go have a look and see what you think. If you need any help or advice either post, PM or mail me.

Angela

EDIT :- and here http://forum.uktrainz.co.uk/index.php

hope5
February 9th, 2010, 03:51 PM
nice thats gona turn out nicely

you could use uk bullhead track it looks rearlistic not sure if it works in trs04 since i use trs06

keep up the good work:cool:


p.s im not sure if it will work on trs 04 but with the type of passenger trains you use im not sure if u have 1 but you cud get a class 60

angelah
February 10th, 2010, 03:33 AM
Hello Trainzessex,
Now you have gone for the Norfolk route what you need is an Ordnance Survey Landranger map. This will show you a lot more detail that GE or Planning Portal because it gives you info on embankments and cuttings as well as a lot of other things you will need to know. I use them when I work on an actual route because GE only gives you an overhead view, not ground elevation details.
And maybe some kind sould will make you a DEM for the area as it's not a very long route. This will act as you baseboards and have all the correct (well, almost!) ground contours, roads, rivers and forest marked in different colours. But to see it you must go get the HOG (Hand Of God) texture files. I can't remember the site but some kind sould will give that link I am sure.

OK, we have got you going on a route more suited to Trainz. I can't remember which version of Trainz you are using so please remind me. I use 2004 to create routes, but I have also used TC3 and 2006 for a short while before my PC broke down.
I shall PM you soon, during today most likely, with a few questions that are best not put on the forum. I like helping the young generation, I have two young lads who come here to run my PC (I trust them to do it) and work in Trainz. Pity you live in Essex and I in Middlesex... never mind, we can overcome distance.

Angela

angelah
February 10th, 2010, 04:15 AM
You have a Private Message.

Please do not post your replies on the open forum, nor indeed any personal information and that includes email addresses. Always use email or a PM for that kind of thing.

Angela

EDIT :- Of interest; I was experimenting with one of the stations from London that ran to the south coast, a third rail line. But most of it was elevated and once you put trains up above housing, and housing in and around London is intense, it means adding a lot of detail. The frame rate suffered really badly and in the end I gave up on the idea. Elevating the tracks on sheer sided embankments was the way they chose of trying to avoid going through the houses, although I don't think they really suceeded....

hope5
February 13th, 2010, 06:31 PM
trainzessex

i was just wondering where abouts your new route is


i dont know alot about places out of the west contry of england

....well theres not alot of answears enymore....

hope5
March 3rd, 2010, 05:55 PM
Full on way to Purfleet by Walton Common Level crossing



http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1395/fullonwaytopurfleetbywa.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/fullonwaytopurfleetbywa.jpg/])


full on way to Purfleet just passed East Tilbury


http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7837/fullonwaytopurfleet.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/i/fullonwaytopurfleet.jpg/)


empty on way back passing though Tilbury Town


http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2091/emptyonwaybackpassingti.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/emptyonwaybackpassingti.jpg/)the class 40 would not be in service at the time as the class 315

bassist118
March 4th, 2010, 08:04 AM
thank you angelah
i think i leave fenchurch street for a bit and have a look at Norwich to Yarmouth line

After beeing away for a while I just came across this thread I have tried to give this route a shot before my broardband got cut off and I lost all Google Earth. It is a very big job I took me 2 months to get from Shoeburyness to Southend East.

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr230/bassist1i8/Shoeburynesspark.jpg

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr230/bassist1i8/Playground.jpg

These were took before I got 2010 now I have to sort out the faulty stuff

BTW I recomend you download everything that starts with FMA or DS or made by paulzmay they're always top quality and very helpfull content.

Keep up the building

:D

Andy

trainzessex
March 4th, 2010, 02:06 PM
After beeing away for a while I just came across this thread I have tried to give this route a shot before my broardband got cut off and I lost all Google Earth. It is a very big job I took me 2 months to get from Shoeburyness to Southend East.

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr230/bassist1i8/Shoeburynesspark.jpg

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr230/bassist1i8/Playground.jpg

These were took before I got 2010 now I have to sort out the faulty stuff

BTW I recomend you download everything that starts with FMA or DS or made by paulzmay they're always top quality and very helpfull content.

Keep up the building

:D

Andy

thank u where did you get the c2c train from

hope5
March 5th, 2010, 02:44 PM
its payware from railwaves i think

trainzessex
March 5th, 2010, 09:02 PM
(http://img502.imageshack.us/i/fenchurchstreet4.jpg/])http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9039/fenchurchstreet4.jpg


http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/306/fenchurchstreet3.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/i/fenchurchstreet3.jpg/)


http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6610/fenchurchstreet2.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/fenchurchstreet2.jpg/)


http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7581/fenchurchstreet.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/fenchurchstreet.jpg/)

hope5
March 6th, 2010, 05:57 PM
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9039/fenchurchstreet4.jpg (http://img502.imageshack.us/i/fenchurchstreet4.jpg/])


http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/306/fenchurchstreet3.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/i/fenchurchstreet3.jpg/)


http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6610/fenchurchstreet2.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/fenchurchstreet2.jpg/)


http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7581/fenchurchstreet.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/fenchurchstreet.jpg/)
looking goood ;)

hope5
March 16th, 2010, 08:20 PM
trainzessex i dont know if you know allready but nexusdj has uploaded some nice content to the dls which might look good on your route

Joe_T
March 17th, 2010, 07:53 AM
Trainzessex you may wish to add some 3rd rail for your DC units to gain power from :hehe: If you wish to use the same track Mike10 did a 3rd rail spline you add to the exsisting track :) HTH

hope5
May 9th, 2010, 01:32 PM
louise t where do you get thoes dc units from in the first place :confused: