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whistlehead
June 18th, 2009, 02:27 PM
Yes, I know, we haven't got much and we aren't terribly good at Gmax, but I thought I might as well start it anyway.

I'd love to see our 24ngtrainzers content in action on your routes, so please, if you have any screenies of our content, put them here so we can all see. I'll get the ball rolling:

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6378/trainz2009061718335010.jpg
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7559/trainz2009061718353803.jpg
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/9230/trainz2009061718295493.jpg
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6723/trainz2009061617354215.jpg
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4189/trainz2009061718312993.jpg
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4805/finishedm.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4991/dgtjh.jpg
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7465/trainz2009042521531925.jpg
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4770/trainz2009042521563671o.jpg



Thanks to anyone who contributes!

Chris :wave:

whistlehead
June 20th, 2009, 10:05 AM
Anyone? Does nobody like our stuff? :(

schoolhater
June 20th, 2009, 10:20 AM
strange aye, everytime me or you create a thread, nobody wants to put a comment into, or it could be that we don't have alot of stuff released.

cheers
tom hughes

simulatortrain
June 20th, 2009, 10:33 AM
For me it's because it's all British. Only a small amount of British stuff appeals to me. It's probably the same with you and the 30ng site since we're pretty much or all Americans. (Though I am planning a British loco.)

ZapperJet
June 20th, 2009, 10:35 AM
Anyone? Does nobody like our stuff? :(


...we haven't got much and we aren't terribly good at Gmax...


I rest my case.

Cheerio,
John

whistlehead
June 20th, 2009, 11:03 AM
For me it's because it's all British. Only a small amount of British stuff appeals to me. It's probably the same with you and the 30ng site since we're pretty much or all Americans. (Though I am planning a British loco.)


Not true. I really like quite a lot of American designs. And Austrailian (though that probably doesn't count because quite a lot of them were British-made)

And Zap, I love your stuff, but you really don't seem to like us much.

schoolhater
June 20th, 2009, 01:25 PM
told you all i was **** at gmax and stuff:confused:

tom

whistlehead
June 20th, 2009, 01:38 PM
One thing I don't approve of: Swearing. It really gets me going. Anyway, if everybody hates us, we might as well close the thread. :'(

Sabertooth
June 20th, 2009, 01:45 PM
I don't..I just don't have any routes with 24 in it yet :o

And not all of it is British..slugsmasher made some SRRL 24 stuff..

schoolhater
June 20th, 2009, 01:50 PM
Done Everybody hates us and our stuff, i knew not many people were gonna like our stuff when we started 24ngtrainzers

tom hughes

whistlehead
June 20th, 2009, 02:19 PM
May I remind you that just today we gained two more members? I think that rises the total to 20 members. We have some fans at least.

whistlehead
June 20th, 2009, 02:31 PM
Plus, It's just for fun. Say what you like, but we do these for our own enjoyment, and release them for yours. I personally would prefer you didn't say bad things about our stuff (not saying you do), but it makes no difference to me really. I create because I want to. Advice is always welcome though. My model-making has changed so much since I discovered the line too and lathe tool. If you don't like the result, fine, but it's really satisfying to be able to create your own stuff.

I'm not angry at anyone, or anything, but I just wanted to say that. Thanks.

Chris

schoolhater
June 20th, 2009, 02:44 PM
i agree with chris, we are not getting angry with anyone, sure people can have there say, fair enough its a free country for crying out loud!:p we would appreciate fair comments, we don't want us and you all to fall out with each other.

regards
Tom Hughes

simulatortrain
June 20th, 2009, 03:08 PM
I don't..I just don't have any routes with 24 in it yet :o

And not all of it is British..slugsmasher made some SRRL 24 stuff..

Theirs is. Not all 2' is.

4fman123
June 20th, 2009, 03:08 PM
where are the steamers in first 5 pics they are so cool and i love your stuff especially the cabless locos oh and i a member of your site tooo

whistlehead
June 20th, 2009, 03:10 PM
Not on the site yet. Webs has been down for a while, but it's back now so I'll get right to it. Tomorrow.

schoolhater
June 20th, 2009, 03:17 PM
there are on the dowloads locomotives page on 24ngtrainzers

whistlehead
June 20th, 2009, 03:41 PM
No they aren't, but I' putting them up right now. (yes, I know it isn't tomorrow yet:hehe:)

EDIT: They are now on the Members Only page of 24ngtrainzers.

cjgeddes
June 20th, 2009, 03:53 PM
...American designs. And Austrailian (though that probably doesn't count because quite a lot of them were British-made)...
Wrong! Most of the Victorian content (just an example) was made in Newport Workshops, which is outside Melbourne.
I would be a frequent poster if I could get Imageshack working

whistlehead
June 20th, 2009, 03:56 PM
Oh, OK, I don't know a lot about Auzzie trains except quite a lot of the old ones were made at the Vulcan foundry. If you know different, fine by me. :)

cjgeddes
June 20th, 2009, 04:01 PM
...quite a lot of the old ones were made at the Vulcan foundry...
Thanks. I thought you would have got out the scrappers torch and scrapped me!:hehe:

ZapperJet
June 20th, 2009, 07:35 PM
...but you really don't seem to like us much.

I'm simply putting two and two together. You couldn't figure out why no one was flocking to download. Here's my advice:

In order to create an audience of people to download your content you have to put time into your content. You cannot throw together a few boxes, export, add someone else's bogeys and call it a locomotive. I'm glad you've all discovered new techniques like this "lathe tool", but have you mastered texturing yet? Can you unwrap the mesh, open it in Photoshop or GIMP, paint on it, add details, and apply it again to your model? These are things you need to practice, and practice them perhaps not so publically. It's great to be able to create models with more speed, but the accuracy and detail has to be there as well. (I can get away with speed because Blender has such great modeling tools! ;))

Don't expect everyone to come running to look at what you've made when there are obviously more impressive things out there. However, if you can achieve excellence with what you make then sure, people are going to notice, people are going to download, and you will have more success with a thread like this one.

My final advice is to study. Study what other content creators do to add to the realism of their model. Look at the textures, the shading, the little things. Then think about them when you make your own. And also use drawings. I can't stress enough how important building to a drawing is.

That's my two cents worth of personal experience.

Cheerio,
John

whistlehead
June 21st, 2009, 02:51 AM
Your advice is good, and yes I have been learning quite a lot of those things lately. The reason I don't use drawings is because I draw them on paper first, then work from that. I suppose I could scan them in. I have been working out texture mapping, and many other things, but I've been doing it in private (by making a couple of {road} cars). The only reason I use other people's bogeys is because I'm still learning to make them myself. My own attempts haven't quite worked out right, but I'm getting there.

Hardly any of my stuff is made from straight boxes anymore, I use the line tool in side view and Extrude it. I'm also using (scaled down) diagrams of SG locos to make my locos now.

And also, as I have previously posted, we make these for our own enjoyment, if people like them, that's nice, but if they don't, it doesn't really matter to us.

Chris

Stora_vagen
June 21st, 2009, 11:15 AM
Anyone? Does nobody like our stuff? :(

I do. .

whistlehead
June 21st, 2009, 12:45 PM
Thank you, we really appreciate your support.

itareus
June 21st, 2009, 01:11 PM
Don't get discouraged, you have made a start, which is more than many people have, now build on it!

Remember the old adages:

"Rome wasn't built in a day" and "Quality is better than quantity".

Good luck.

Chris

whistlehead
June 21st, 2009, 01:32 PM
Thankyou. Always good guidelines to follow, I've found. Now are we going to chat about the quality of our models, or is anyone actually going to post a screenie, other then me and Tom?

David111767
June 21st, 2009, 02:41 PM
For me it's because it's all British. Only a small amount of British stuff appeals to me. It's probably the same with you and the 30ng site since we're pretty much or all Americans. (Though I am planning a British loco.)

If anybody wants to make some 30in british/european content, i would be more than happy to host it :)

Sabertooth
June 21st, 2009, 04:10 PM
Was there any 30 inch british stuff?

whistlehead
June 21st, 2009, 04:13 PM
Just before WW1 there was a whole load before they decided on 2ft gauge instead (mainly petrol tractors) and there was the Welshpool and Llanfair rly with it's two original 0-6-0ts (The Earl and The Countess).

It's now re-opened, and has both of these and many more.

So yes, there were.

tdstead
June 21st, 2009, 04:52 PM
David ... where to start for europe is the problem .....

First of all try searching DLS for 750mm or 760mm there is some great stuff

Then there is Czeck, Polish, Russian Hungry models on various other sites, there is enough to keep you happy for a long time.

Talking about British, one of the intresting ones was the Rye and Camber, a small line that was built orginally just to take people from the town to the golf course, how nice to be rich, some one said they would model the petrol motor for me but he said it was a fair way down his list.

Tom

whistlehead
June 25th, 2009, 01:57 PM
Back on track...

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5568/trainz2009062419520137.jpg

schoolhater
July 2nd, 2009, 04:02 PM
this is really fun what i'm makin
http://www.wdi.co.uk/bvr/gifs/loco.gif

http://f.imagehost.org/0932/loco_1.jpg

well what do you all think of this?:D

cheers
tom hughes

whistlehead
July 2nd, 2009, 04:06 PM
I see you liked my suggestion then...

Nice! But shouldn't this be in the WIP/release thread? Leave it here too though.

David111767
July 6th, 2009, 09:49 PM
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh183/David111767/Image1-159.jpg

whistlehead
April 24th, 2010, 07:39 AM
Bump!

Since our content has now greatly improved I think it's time to fire up this thread again...

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/4253/trainz201004232007554.jpg

@David 111767 - I like the effects you used on that image.
Chris :wave:

ad602000
April 24th, 2010, 03:46 PM
told you all i was **** at gmax and stuff

Oh, I dont know, you have gone one step further than most, your stuff is out there. Probably in two years time you will look back at your earlier stuff and see the difference in your content. As far as the emphasis on british stuff is concerned, you are familiar with that and it's a good start. There is nothing wrong with niche modelling. I would like to make one suggestion to you all, your blacks are to black they look featureless try using a dark grey and the look on the web fro grunge textures and place them on the base grey as "overlay" layers and fiddle with layer setting as in opacity and different layer types

It's early days , dont be hard on yourself

cheers
pete