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stouthm
May 10th, 2009, 01:31 PM
I saw some screens from skidmark22 of this route and decided to download it. I fixed the problem area that he noted but now I have a strange occurance. If skidmark22, love that username, or even the author of the route, "roymac" can help me it would be appreciated.

If you'll notice in the screen I seem to be missing the station. Not only that but there appears to be two camp fires floating above where the station should be. I've checked CMP and have no missing items. Please tell me what I'm missing so I can fix it. Thanks.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8771/canmorestation1.th.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=canmorestation1.jpg)

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8108/canmorestation2.th.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=canmorestation2.jpg)

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The station is at Canmore and I just looked at the screens and they're not close enough. If you need more let me know.

applegathc
May 10th, 2009, 03:13 PM
lol your probably missing the station if it's not showing up...:hehe:

cam

skidmark22
May 10th, 2009, 03:34 PM
I really don't know. That doesn't look like the spot that I was having the derails. I did find and fix some other track problems at other spots but don't remember now exactly where they were. I think the builder of the route will have to answer that one.

stouthm
May 10th, 2009, 05:58 PM
Skidmark22, go to Canmore and see which station shows up on your route. Better yet, take a screen shot for me.

Stationbeem
May 10th, 2009, 09:33 PM
Just downloaded for curiosity and the station is definitely missing , and there are two camp fires in mid air.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/654/screen017g.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screen017g.jpg)

Thanks to Image Shack for Free hosting.

skidmark22
May 11th, 2009, 07:22 AM
Not missing any station on my version.. I do remember fixing a defect in the track on the siding that serves the station platform. The track and the station were not connected there under that black thing that crosses the tracks. I had to drag the track vertice to hook up with the station vertice. Sorry if I don't know all the proper terms to use.

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/skidmark22/cajon-canmore.jpg

Kirra
May 11th, 2009, 07:29 AM
Good. But you can make it more beautifull.

whistlehead
May 11th, 2009, 07:51 AM
It IS beautiful. I love it. It could be almost anywhere in the world, though Germany, Switzerland and the US immediately spring to mind.

stouthm
May 11th, 2009, 10:14 AM
Skidmark22, you mention that the track and the station were connected. That's the problem that me and Stationbeem are having. We have NO station. Would you PLEASE look in your objects section and give us the name or kuid of that station. This is what I asked for at the beginning of the thread. Thank you.

Stationbeem, thank you, at least I'm not the only one seeing camp fires in the air.

Euphod
May 11th, 2009, 10:58 AM
The Station is: GareA petite 1 quai kuid# 2:50722:28053:2

The campfires were stragically placed to simulate smoke from the station's chimneys.

Jananton
May 11th, 2009, 12:56 PM
The Station is: GareA petite 1 quai kuid# 2:50722:28053:2

The campfires were stragically placed to simulate smoke from the station's chimneys.

And a very innovative idea that is, I must add.:hehe:

Greetings from sunny Amsterdam,

Jan

Euphod
May 11th, 2009, 12:58 PM
And a very innovative idea that is, I must add.:hehe:

Greetings from sunny Amsterdam,

Jan

Indeed, and that was before the fire effects (without the cooking pot) were availible!

stouthm
May 11th, 2009, 01:56 PM
Thank you Euphod, I guess I wasn't getting through to skidmark22. I thought that was the reason for the camp fires.

stouthm
May 11th, 2009, 02:00 PM
Well, my troubles continue. This item is not on the dls. Do you know where I can get it?

Euphod
May 11th, 2009, 03:20 PM
http://www.lafranceentrains.com/laboutique.lafranceentrains.com/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=45&osCsid=dfa186f526b2fb2a307afdead84f1e8d

Stationbeem
May 11th, 2009, 04:48 PM
Many thanks Euphod for the link for the station.

stouthm
May 11th, 2009, 07:15 PM
Yes, thank you again Euphod. I had found it Google but didn't have time to post until I got back from a viewing. My 31 year old neighbor from a blood clot. You never know so enjoy life every day.

skidmark22
May 21st, 2009, 07:03 AM
Well, now that all of that is sorted out, it is time to post some more shots from that route. Here are a few that I was thinking about entering in the weekly contest but changed my mind.

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/skidmark22/Possibles/BNSF03.jpg

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/skidmark22/Possibles/BNSF04.jpg

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/skidmark22/Possibles/BNSF05.jpg

skidmark22
May 21st, 2009, 07:10 AM
Here are a few more rejects from the Cajon route.

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/skidmark22/Possibles/BNSF1.jpg

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/skidmark22/Possibles/BNSF2.jpg

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/skidmark22/Possibles/BNSF3.jpg

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/skidmark22/Possibles/BNSF4.jpg


http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/skidmark22/Possibles/BNSF7.jpg

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/skidmark22/Possibles/BNSF8.jpg

roymac
May 21st, 2009, 08:11 AM
Hi Skidmark 22

I am glad you found the station you were looking for and yes, as someone pointed out, the campfires showing were put there 'hidden' to allow for smoke to exit the chimneys of the station. No other way I could think of doing it at the time!!

I don't often see images of the routes that I have created so it is nice to see someone else enjoying them other than me.

Some interesting 'historical' notes on the route I thought you might be interested in knowing. It first started out as a replica of a track plan in Model Railroad Magazine called "Cajon Pass". However, somewhere along the line I changed my mind and decided to merge it with another route I had been working on and for the longest time, I called it at first NCSRA (North Central & Southern Railroad Administration) which was too long. Then it became - MC&S - Main Central & Southern. I thought it fit better considering the mix in terrain. After a while, as I continued to add to it, I uploaded it the DLS as "Cajon Pass". I don't know why I didn't keep the name MC&S!!!

Your version is not the final one. I have since added quite a number of new baseboards to expand the route further with a section I call - Coal Mountian. An extension that consists of 11 bridges and as many tunnels on its way to a mine. If you seach the screenshots under 'roymac' you will eventually come accross some I posted of that extension. I have, over the past few years, continued to add to it mostly in the form of improvements to reflect new textures, vehicles, trees and other items such as animated people that are always being developed. I have not changed the route at all as I felt there was no need to. Below are some of my screenshots that compliment yours.

As a final note, Auran contacted me and indicated that they wanted to include the route in their upcoming TC4 (Trainz Classics 4) however, that version was never developed. It would have been nice though!!

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1183/mcscncanmorealberta.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6052/mcsmadisonab.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2008/mcswideangle.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5666/mcswideangle2.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2376/nscrathechaseison.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8890/mcswideangle5.jpg

roymac

skidmark22
May 21st, 2009, 10:44 AM
Well Thanks Roymac for that info and for making such a good route. I really enjoy messing around with it and will look into getting the addons to it.

I wish I could make a route but all I can do is make scenery and lay some track. I don't know anything about signals and all that other important stuff that goes with it. I would love to make a route for the Buckingham Branch railroad which runs east/west from Dillwyn, Virginia to the James River near Bremo Bluff, Va. They have a website and you can see the route on Google maps or google earth. They service some lumber/wood operations, a mining operation and others in the area. I am going to try to get some good photos of their locos so maybe someone can skin one for me.

stouthm
May 21st, 2009, 11:03 AM
Roymac, as you may have read I to downloaded your route. Will you be making the improvements/add ons available? I have already done away with the stick figures and added the animated figures. Great minds......

roymac
May 21st, 2009, 11:28 AM
Roymac, as you may have read I to downloaded your route. Will you be making the improvements/add ons available? I have already done away with the stick figures and added the animated figures. Great minds......

....good question and I don't have an answer for you yet. I have considered putting the updated version on the DLS but felt the since it was such an old route, there would be tons of stuff (custom content) that would require more work to get then most people would be willing to spend the time to do! I am sure some of it may not even be availble now. When did you downoad the route? What was your experience with the content? Did you have to do a lot of searching for it - the custom stuff I am referring to?

roymac.

cascaderailroad
May 21st, 2009, 11:43 AM
It looks like you are using dual elevation, aerial flyways, on invisatrack for this screenshot ?
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2376/nscrathechaseison.jpg
My experimentation:A plane, looking down on anther plane, looking down on a Train: http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc339/cascaderailroad/Screen_023.jpg

Jananton
May 21st, 2009, 12:29 PM
This is certainly a great looking route :) and I almost found all non DLS stuff, but, yes there's a but coming on:hehe: , these six elude me.

Onbekende locatie: <kuid:43955:28021>
Onbekende locatie: <kuid:51767:134>
Onbekende locatie: <kuid:51767:135>
Onbekende locatie: <kuid:51767:2837>
Onbekende locatie: <kuid:51767:2863>
Onbekende locatie: <kuid:51767:4486>

Any idears where to find those?

Greetings from sunny Amsterdam,

Jan

roymac
May 21st, 2009, 01:40 PM
This is certainly a great looking route :) and I almost found all non DLS stuff, but, yes there's a but coming on:hehe: , these six elude me.

Onbekende locatie: <kuid:43955:28021>
Onbekende locatie: <kuid:51767:134>
Onbekende locatie: <kuid:51767:135>
Onbekende locatie: <kuid:51767:2837>
Onbekende locatie: <kuid:51767:2863>
Onbekende locatie: <kuid:51767:4486>

Any idears where to find those?

Greetings from sunny Amsterdam,

Jan


Hi Jan,

Not sure where to find them but I will check my tainz objectz to see what they are. As rule, if I can't find something from a route that I may have downloaded, I just replace it with something that is available, that I think fits -my guess is you may already have done that.

roymac

roymac
May 21st, 2009, 01:44 PM
It looks like you are using dual elevation, aerial flyways, on invisatrack for this screenshot ?
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2376/nscrathechaseison.jpg
My experimentation:A plane, looking down on anther plane, looking down on a Train: http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc339/cascaderailroad/Screen_023.jpg

...yes I did...the plane on invisible track. The layout has a small airport from which the plane flys. It circles the route, lands then takes off again. Makes for a different perspective and adds some interest. The 'dual elevation' I am not sure what you mean other than I have designed the terrain to allow for different track heights.

roymac

MountE
May 21st, 2009, 04:29 PM
Hi Roymac

Just wanted to say that while this is an older route I have never seen a better use of backdrops. Not once did the backdrops appear to float in air.
Great job.:D

Rob

skidmark22
May 21st, 2009, 04:51 PM
I am not sure if this should be in screenshots or the video section. It is an animated gif. Be sure to view it full sized and give is a few seconds to fully load.

http://s613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/skidmark22/?action=view&current=trainz1.gif

cascaderailroad
May 21st, 2009, 05:55 PM
It looks like you are using dual elevation, aerial flyways, on invisatrack for this screenshot ?
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/237...echaseison.jpg (http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2376/nscrathechaseison.jpg)
My experimentation:A plane, looking down on anther plane, looking down on a Train: http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/c...Screen_023.jpg (http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc339/cascaderailroad/Screen_023.jpg)


...yes I did...the plane on invisible track. The layout has a small airport from which the plane flys. It circles the route, lands then takes off again. Makes for a different perspective and adds some interest. The 'dual elevation' I am not sure what you mean other than I have designed the terrain to allow for different track heights.

roymac





If you lay 2 tracks in the sky, one at say, 200', and the other at say, 400' above the track...2 separate flight paths would be usable...so a plane, could follow another plane, that is following a train...and if these aerial flyways extended for over the entire route, instead of just a takoff and landing...it would provide two whole new ways to view your entire route...from the air, at two separate elevations.

stouthm
May 21st, 2009, 07:50 PM
Roymac, I downloaded your route less than two weeks ago and had no problems with any custom items. It was good to go from the start.

roymac
May 21st, 2009, 08:03 PM
I am not sure if this should be in screenshots or the video section. It is an animated gif. Be sure to view it full sized and give is a few seconds to fully load.

http://s613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/skidmark22/?action=view&current=trainz1.gif

...I am not sure of the program you used to create it (I will assume photobucket), but it looked very good. Nice pic! :D

roymac

Jananton
May 22nd, 2009, 03:20 AM
Hi Jan,

Not sure where to find them but I will check my tainz objectz to see what they are. As rule, if I can't find something from a route that I may have downloaded, I just replace it with something that is available, that I think fits -my guess is you may already have done that.

roymac

Well, if those missing are things that are really unfindable or on sites that don't exist anymore, yes then I put other stuff in place:) , but I always give it one more try first.:hehe:
My main concern is allways that one of those missing kuids is a track type or something else that's critical for using a route.

Greetings from overcast Amsterdam,

Jan

skidmark22
May 22nd, 2009, 05:54 AM
...I am not sure of the program you used to create it (I will assume photobucket), but it looked very good. Nice pic! :D

roymac

Actually it is a little freeware program called "Sqirlz Water Reflections"

skidmark22
May 22nd, 2009, 06:40 AM
Leaving the stockyards..

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/skidmark22/Possibles/BNSF01.jpg

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/skidmark22/Possibles/BNSF02.jpg

Hauling logs up to Madison..

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/skidmark22/Possibles/greatnorthern1.jpg

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/skidmark22/Possibles/greatnorthern3a.jpg

mity22
September 7th, 2009, 11:43 AM
What states is this route running through is this is the one called cajon pass that runs into the desert is it set in texas and new mexico? I recently downloaded that route.:cool:

skidmark22
September 7th, 2009, 03:25 PM
What states is this route running through is this is the one called cajon pass that runs into the desert is it set in texas and new mexico? I recently downloaded that route.:cool:

Cajon Pass is in California. It is where the rails running between Barstow (high desert) and LA comes off the mountain. Just do a google search for Cajon Pass and learn all about it. I am not certain but I believe this route itself is mostly ficticious.

mity22
September 7th, 2009, 06:07 PM
OK yea ill look it up now you mention it ive been to a place in San Diego CA some years ago called El Cajon :)

Rusty1955
September 7th, 2009, 06:14 PM
OK yea ill look it up now you mention it ive been to a place in San Diego CA some years ago called El Cajon :)


El Cajon is a city. Cajon Pass is just north of Los Angeles heading towards Bakersfield. 2 entirely different things.

MrHAJO
September 15th, 2009, 06:37 AM
This is certainly a great looking route :) and I almost found all non DLS stuff, but, yes there's a but coming on:hehe: , these six elude me.

Onbekende locatie: <kuid:43955:28021>
Onbekende locatie: <kuid:51767:134>
Onbekende locatie: <kuid:51767:135>
Onbekende locatie: <kuid:51767:2837>
Onbekende locatie: <kuid:51767:2863>
Onbekende locatie: <kuid:51767:4486>
<kuid:38408:27006>
<kuid:44700:27962>
Any idears where to find those?

Greetings from sunny Amsterdam,

Jan

Hello, I downloaded the Route yesterday and there are this kuids missing.
Please help me to find them.

Achim

roymac
September 15th, 2009, 08:08 AM
Hello, I downloaded the Route yesterday and there are this kuids missing.
Please help me to find them.

Achim

Hi Achim,

Some of the KUIDS are no longer available which include:
<kuid:51767:134>
<kuid:51767:135>
<kuid:51767:2837>
<kuid:51767:2863>
<kuid:51767:4486>
These are rolling stock (I think) and you will not miss them. Just delete and replace them with any other rolling stock. I checked my KUID files and I don't even have them!!

<kuid:38408:27006> is as follows:
asset-filename CS_Roadrailer_Std_CN
username Roadrailer_Std_CN
author Christian Steurer (Threeheadedmonkey)
organisation Virtual Motive Division
contact-email steurer_christian@hotmail.com
contact-website http://www.virtual-motive-division.com
license.
Please contact Virtual Motive or go to the web-site listed above to get the item.

<kuid:44700:27962> - again, I don't have it listed in my KUID file. You can delete it.

<kuid:43955:28021> - delete it and replace it with other rolling stock. I don't have this in my KUID file either.

When I uploaded the route I made the mistake of including rolling stock, some of which I created with Paintshed. Most of the missing KUIDS are those items. You can delete them and replace them with whatever you wish.

Also, the route is completely fiction. It bears no similarity to the actual Canjon Pass route. I used the name 'Canjon Pass' because it started out as a route from Model Railroad Magazine with the same name. I soon changed my mind and blended it with another route I had created. I just thought the combo made for a more interesting train run.

roymac

I hope you enjoy the route.

mity22
September 25th, 2009, 11:49 AM
your right El cajon is a city in San diego county sorry for the mix up.:)

SPNGTyler
September 25th, 2009, 12:39 PM
This realy isnt needed and a little off topic but another way to help locate where Cajon Pass is just remeber you have to go through it to get from Tehatchapie(Lived in the area for 4-5 years and I still don't remember how to spell it...) to LA and vis versa.

Another point of intrest on the way, Colton Cutoff. Which by the way happens to be where I used to live. Happy (:hehe: ) Palmdale, California!

Ok im done, my 2 cents. Geting back to other stuff...