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chrisracer8903
November 15th, 2006, 03:58 PM
While the forums has been down: I have been working on another PROTOTYPICAL route. This time it's back in my area of Detroit, Michigan and it's in the cold winter around Christmas time. The BNSF Red Rock Sub should be at USTrainz.com at anytime now.

CN Holly Sub Overveiw:
The CN Holly Sub runs from Durand to Detroit, Michigan. It is former Grand Trunk Western but alot of GTW Power still is seen on the sub. The line starts in Durand and crosses the CN Flint Sub and interchanges with the Central Michigan Railroad. It goes thru Holly and cross the legendary CSX Saginaw Sub! The line runs thru Pontiac to Milwaukee Jct in Hamtramck (North side of downtown Detroit). The line crosses over the abandoned diamond of the Terminal West Industrial Track and the services the Moterm Intermodal Terminal.

Now for the screenies:

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A mixed freight train crossing the CSX Diamond in Holly.
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The busy Pontiac Yard that still has a working turntable today.
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a CN SD70I works the turntable (I bought the SD70I at World Of Trainz! )
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An Amtrak Wolverine comes to a stop at the Pontiac Transport Center.
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A CN GP9RM does a switchback on the Pontiac Branch. The branch-line starts from the GM Plant's Yard and goes into a switchback to access the other plants near Pontiac and Alburn Hills.

Continued...........

chrisracer8903
November 15th, 2006, 04:04 PM
More!

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An autorack train heading to the Pontiac GM Plant ROARs thru Troy near the Big Beaver Road underpass. This strech of mainline from Royal Oak to Pontiac has had over 4 major derailments in the last 7 years by CN!
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Crossing over Stevenson Highway in Royal Oak.
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The Moterm Intermodal Terminal is quiet today.
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This is the abandoned Terminal West Industrial Track that goes to Highland Park. It has been abandoned seince the Conrail split back in the mid-1990s. Some of it is now part of the Detroit Terminal Railroad, but not this spot. It used to merge onto the CSX Detroit Sub in Fullerton, Michigan.
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A typical CN Train crosses the old Terminal West Industrial Track.

Continued........

chrisracer8903
November 15th, 2006, 04:14 PM
More!

This is where the sub splits-off to Downtown Detroit and Port Huron: Milwaukee Jct. There is the CN D&M Yard, Tower, High Line Wye to Detroit/Windsor Tunnel/Delray Junction (NS Detroit District), and the Sugar House Wye to Port Huron.
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/8617/cnh011bs7.jpg
D&M Yard as a local pauses.
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This is the Sugar House Wye to Port Huron. It's used, but not as much as GTW did.
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/6831/cnh013at3.jpg
This is where the High Line Wye connects and heads south and goes next to Conrail's Shared Asset that still runs today. The CSA runs from Sterling Heights to Ecorse. Here's a Conrail Autorack coming from the Chrysler Warren Truck Plant.

You all enjoy these screenies. The route will include sessions (Of coarse) and some Central Michigan-skinned locos to do local work around the Durand, Michigan area. -Chris

nikos1
November 15th, 2006, 04:18 PM
Nice work, chris:)
i really like the abandoned diamond

drewman
November 15th, 2006, 05:20 PM
nice, 1234

etozorak
November 15th, 2006, 05:32 PM
Brilliant as ever!

trainzmainiac2006
November 16th, 2006, 07:26 PM
awsome, getting better with each route!!!!

TrainMan12
November 16th, 2006, 09:01 PM
Great work Chris!

round_house
November 16th, 2006, 09:23 PM
It looks great Chris

Will Download for sure

round_house

Zintac
November 20th, 2006, 10:42 PM
Looking Good Chris, Nice work

Stylez84
November 21st, 2006, 01:08 PM
Very nice work! My wife lived in Pontiac for a while so this will be a must-get for me! :)

Transportfan
November 21st, 2006, 07:59 PM
Where did you get those Canadian gantry signals? They're exactly what I've been looking for! Do they work in TRZ04?

chrisracer8903
November 23rd, 2006, 02:06 PM
Where did you get those Canadian gantry signals? They're exactly what I've been looking for! Do they work in TRZ04?

They are included in TRS2006. From the Toronto Raillands route.

UPDATE:

The route is almost done: I'm working on the Durand area where the line crosses the CN/ CP Flint Sub and where the Holly Sub shares with the Tuscola & Saginaw Bay for a few miles. The route includes the CN/ TSBY Yard in Durand and a section of the TSBY Yard that splits-off a few miles outside of Durand (Heading to Holly).

I also have a bonus for this route and here it is:
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/4576/tsby1qt7.jpg
I made a skin of a Tuscola & Saginaw Bay GP38. It's number 388 "City of Durand". The railroad's locos are interesting because they use Alco trucks insted of the formal GP trucks. Here the train is coming from the Old Yard and heading onto the Holly Sub to Durand Yard.
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3906/tsby2wn1.jpg
A few more shots of my TSBY skin.
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/2157/tsby3yd1.jpg

I know it's not the best, but I think it's good :) . -Chris

grogstop65
November 23rd, 2006, 02:21 PM
Looking great! This is your best one yet?

By the way where did those signals come from?

colhad
November 23rd, 2006, 04:03 PM
I'll drive on it, but I'll bring plenty of warm clothes, and some marshmellows to roast over an open fire.:)

Transportfan
November 23rd, 2006, 11:50 PM
They are included in TRS2006. From the Toronto Raillands route.

So they (the gantry signals) are not available on the DLS for use with '04?

chrisracer8903
November 25th, 2006, 09:30 PM
CN Holly Sub is now at USTrainz.com, plus 3 sessions and a loco made by me! :)

CN Holly Sub:

http://www.ustrainz.com/products/proto/CNHolly.php

-Chris

WCL
November 25th, 2006, 09:37 PM
Looks good dude...Getting it as I type this :)

Keep up the good work on all your future routes :)

WCL
November 26th, 2006, 11:52 AM
Very nice on the route Chris :) and today we went up to the Holly Sub to see what was going on up there...It was cold and yet a few flurries were flying around in the air...But we did get to see one train that night and it was a TOFC train...

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WCL
November 26th, 2006, 11:55 AM
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titaniclover
November 26th, 2006, 05:13 PM
chris i downloaded the route and sessions but im missing most of the snow textures and the thing keeps on slowing down to the point whwere its not even moving. any help would be apreciated!!

WCL
November 26th, 2006, 05:24 PM
That's funny...It all works good for me....Chris might be able to help ya out :)

chrisracer8903
November 26th, 2006, 06:23 PM
chris i downloaded the route and sessions but im missing most of the snow textures and the thing keeps on slowing down to the point whwere its not even moving. any help would be apreciated!!

Do you have TRS2004? It's not going to work in TRS2004. -Chris

titaniclover
November 26th, 2006, 06:32 PM
no im using TRS2006.

chrisracer8903
November 26th, 2006, 06:34 PM
no im using TRS2006.

Hmm......did you get ALL the custom content? If so, then just delete and re-download. -Chris

titaniclover
November 26th, 2006, 07:19 PM
metter of fact i downloaded all of the free routes on the US Trainz site and all experiancing the same problem.

edit: just redownloaded it no luck. still no snow textures and its still slow. Assests status 1 broken, 24 on DLS.
any more ideas to fix this mess chris?

edit2: here are the assests:
Dependent Assests
Unknown Location: <kuid:107727:1117>
Unknown Location: <kuid:107727:1130>
Unknown Location: <kuid:107727:1131>
Broken Assests
Faulty Old-Junk-Store:<kuid2:33404:502051:2>
DLS Assests
Download Station: oaktree_winter_25m
Download Station: Abandon-Widget-Works
Download Station: AJS Roundhouse Left Closer
Download Station: AJS Roundhouse Right Closer
Download Station: AJS Turntable
Download Station: AJS Turntable Stub
Download Station: auto ramp yellow deck 2
Download Station: CGM bridge concrete single 01
Download Station: derelict searchlight signal
Download Station: Detroit-Empty-Warehouse-2D
Download Station: Detroit-Hotel-Tremont-2D
Download Station: Dietrich-Iron-Works
Download Station: Eastern_Forest_Leaf-off_50m_spline
Download Station: Hotel Parkview
Download Station: JJS_Deck_Girder_2
Download Station: Louisville3-2D
Download Station: oaktree_winter_25m
Download Station: Snowy-05
Download Station: Spokane-WA-2D
Download Station: Traffic Light T-intersection
Download Station: Turntable Track
Download Station: Untitled_Church
Download Station: Warehouse2_brown
Download Station: Washington-Water-Power-Spokane-WA-2D
Download Station: Waterloo-IA-Old-Rath-Packing-House-2D

Zorronov
November 26th, 2006, 08:50 PM
Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Th..Th..Th..Thanks C..C..Chris!! :)

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Zorronov

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titaniclover
November 26th, 2006, 09:06 PM
where did you get the CN chessie cars and loco i need them for my new route the North Eastern Corridor.

TrainMan12
November 26th, 2006, 09:08 PM
On the DLS I think. Well done Chris, this route is excellent! I've ran now 3 sessions on it today! The route is great for switching, locals, and light mainline running with set-outs/pick-ups!

Great Job Chris!

CozmoŽ
November 27th, 2006, 12:39 AM
Woohoo!! I have a new favorite route!! Excellent job on this Chris!!! Heres some screenies..
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d199/-CoZmo-/PIC-0078.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d199/-CoZmo-/PIC-0079.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d199/-CoZmo-/PIC-0080.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d199/-CoZmo-/PIC-0081.jpg

Cheers,
Adam

applegathc
June 19th, 2008, 02:20 PM
Where did u get those sd75s from?

WCL
June 20th, 2008, 09:22 AM
WOW!!!! A 2 YEAR OLD POST DUG UP.....:hehe:

campbell5149
June 20th, 2008, 09:42 AM
Where did u get those sd75s from?

Trainz Pro Routes.......

campbell5149
June 20th, 2008, 09:43 AM
WOW!!!! A 2 YEAR OLD POST DUG UP.....:hehe:
yeah you can tell by cozmo's shots. he's running alot more FPS now.....;)

freightcar2
July 11th, 2008, 12:24 PM
CN Holly Sub is now at USTrainz.com, plus 3 sessions and a loco made by me! :)

CN Holly Sub:

http://www.ustrainz.com/products/proto/CNHolly.php

-Chris

I'm SOOOO downloading...:udrool: :mop:

freightcar2
July 11th, 2008, 12:25 PM
CN Holly Sub is now at USTrainz.com, plus 3 sessions and a loco made by me! :)

CN Holly Sub:

http://www.ustrainz.com/products/proto/CNHolly.php

-Chris

Oh dear. The Link is unavaible. Have you uploaded it to any other site? :(

chrisracer8903
July 11th, 2008, 12:45 PM
Oh dear. The Link is unavaible. Have you uploaded it to any other site? :(


Yeah, the Download Station, make sure you download the version with the CN Dash 9 on the thumbnail pic because that's the newest version.

freightcar2
July 11th, 2008, 02:03 PM
So I search for "CN Holly Sub" on the DLS? :udrool:

motorbridge
July 11th, 2008, 07:35 PM
did anyone see Santa Claus,Mrs Claus, or Rudolph? lol:hehe:

chrisracer8903
July 11th, 2008, 09:20 PM
So I search for "CN Holly Sub" on the DLS? :udrool:

Yup, the name hasn't changed.

freightcar2
July 13th, 2008, 12:58 AM
Just a question, is there any payware stuff in the route or sessions? :o

WCL
July 13th, 2008, 08:40 AM
Just a question, is there any payware stuff in the route or sessions? :o

Here is an answer......Go try it and see :hehe:

freightcar2
July 13th, 2008, 10:23 AM
Here is an answer......Go try it and see :hehe:

If there is payware content then I'll get a ton of error messages. :(

Blutorse4792
July 13th, 2008, 11:01 AM
Was it truly necessary to bump a 2 year old thread considering that 1. UST doesn't exist anymore, and 2. Chris has remade this route like 5 times???

freightcar2
July 13th, 2008, 11:40 AM
Where should I ask questions if not this, If I may ask? :o :o :o

Blutorse4792
July 13th, 2008, 11:42 AM
Why not search for posts about the Holly Sub that have been written in the last year?

freightcar2
July 13th, 2008, 12:03 PM
Why not search for posts about the Holly Sub that have been written in the last year?

I just did a search. I found no Support threads. Are there any? There must be something wrong with my eyes if there is. :hehe:

PerRock
July 13th, 2008, 12:42 PM
I just did a search. I found no Support threads. Are there any? There must be something wrong with my eyes if there is. :hehe:

must be because searching for "Holly Sub" I found these:

http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=19019&highlight=Holly+Sub
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=1152&highlight=Holly+Sub
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=19019&highlight=Holly+Sub
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=16260&highlight=Holly+Sub
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=16260&highlight=Holly+Sub

peter

Routebuilder
August 28th, 2012, 12:24 PM
Good job, Chris :P. I have the route on TS2010.

Bhorton
August 28th, 2012, 12:31 PM
why did you bump?

WCL
August 28th, 2012, 05:33 PM
why did you bump?


That was more than just a BUMP....Talk about like a big dip in the road...""HOLLY"" BUCKETS :hehe: