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Bill69
January 16th, 2008, 10:13 PM
This is/was my windows xp disk. I did a clean reload of windows last night, eveything seemed to be going ok, got windows up and running, then when I ejected the cd this is what I found.

http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=winxpdiskhu6.jpg

Some bits of the disk were still in the cd drive and some were on the floor. So now I have to try to get another winxp disk. Does anyone know of this happening before? :'( :'( :'(

Bill69

transitguard
January 16th, 2008, 10:24 PM
Whoa.:eek:

transitguard
January 16th, 2008, 10:25 PM
I really don't know, did it make any weird noises while this was happening? Also, is that the way it came out of the drive, or is it rearranged after an initial panic attack?

CasyJ
January 16th, 2008, 10:49 PM
First off, no DVD or CD drive has the brute strength to fracture a disk in that manner in normal use. Even breaking it by hand takes a great deal of force. I suspect that someone opened the drive, took the disk out and mangled it, then put the pieces back in. If you have any enemies or someone that has it out for you, I would suspect foul play.

transitguard
January 16th, 2008, 10:51 PM
I was only asking to follow up the possibility of a defective disk. I agree with the possibilty of foul play, though. I would take far too many rpm's to shatter a non-defective disk. Also, the disk seems to be mostly upside-down to the way it would have been inserted into the drive. (the shiny side is up)

Bill69
January 16th, 2008, 10:56 PM
I really don't know, did it make any weird noises while this was happening? Also, is that the way it came out of the drive, or is it rearranged after an initial panic attack?

The only weird noise it made was a bit like a spud gun firing if you know what that is. I can guarantee no one opened the drive or broke the disk by hand, that is exactly as it came out when I opened the drive I was sitting right by the computer all the time. I have heard of disks shattering before but only ending up with cracks not ending up in bits like this one.

Bill69

transitguard
January 16th, 2008, 10:58 PM
Also, the disk seems to be mostly upside-down to the way it would have been inserted into the drive. (the shiny side is up)
How about this, though?

CasyJ
January 16th, 2008, 11:00 PM
I was only asking to follow up the possibility of a defective disk. I agree with the possibilty of foul play, though. I would take far too many rpm's to shatter a non-defective disk. Also, the disk seems to be mostly upside-down to the way it would have been inserted into the drive. (the shiny side is up)

Yes, just now I took a CD and tried to break it (no loss, just an old Sports Illustrated demo). I had to fold it half before it would break and it fractured into 3 pieces, two large and one small. What ever happened to that disk it had to have been either broken several times or cut up with a scissors.

Bill69
January 16th, 2008, 11:01 PM
I was only asking to follow up the possibility of a defective disk. I agree with the possibilty of foul play, though. I would take far too many rpm's to shatter a non-defective disk. Also, the disk seems to be mostly upside-down to the way it would have been inserted into the drive. (the shiny side is up)

No the shiny side is not up, the coloured side is up except some of the coloured label has come off.

Bill69

CasyJ
January 16th, 2008, 11:08 PM
No the shiny side is not up, the coloured side is up except some of the coloured label has come off.

Bill69

And you are positive that no one else had access to your computer? What happens when you try to insert and run another CD?

transitguard
January 16th, 2008, 11:09 PM
Must have been most of the label, then, because the rest of the pieces are pretty pale in comparison to that one dark one.

kcdowdy
January 16th, 2008, 11:09 PM
Hey, I have had this happen before, And it was a lego disk, *Cryes* And i "Blasted my Disk drive to hell and back" It even broke the DVD drive!!


Do not put Anymore disk in Ever, I found i busted it at Super fast speed.

It just came out in 500 more peices :) Your in the clear.

transitguard
January 16th, 2008, 11:12 PM
The messing up the drive I can believe, kcdowdy. I watched a show where the tested the upper limits of a cd. (20,000 rpms by the way) When the disk shattered, it just mangled the cd drive cover that they had placed over it.

CasyJ
January 16th, 2008, 11:12 PM
Hey, I have had this happen before, And it was a lego disk, *Cryes* And i "Blasted my Disk drive to hell and back" It even broke the DVD drive!!


Do not put Anymore disk in Ever, I found i busted it at Super fast speed.

It just came out in 500 more peices :) Your in the clear.

Well, disks made from Lego rarely stick together. :hehe:

Bill69
January 16th, 2008, 11:14 PM
Must have been most of the label, then, because the rest of the pieces are pretty pale in comparison to that one dark one.
I have stripped the drive and cleaned out all the broken bits, reassembled the drive and have used it again, with a disk that is not important, and everything works ok. I can read from and write to a disk with no problems. The bit that puzzzzzzzzzels me is that windows acctually loaded ok and seems to be in good working order.

Bill69
p.s. if you look at the bit inthe top left of the pic you can see some printing on it.

kcdowdy
January 16th, 2008, 11:15 PM
It's the small blue things that messed it up :)

Well over 70's club man, Geek squad near?

big_b
January 17th, 2008, 02:41 AM
This happened to me about 9mths ago was playing a game which ran fine the whole time then when I tried to eject it the Drive wouldn't open.Took it to my local tech guy who had to pull the drive apart to see what had happened.The biggest pieces of disk left was just bigger than the some of the smaller pieces shown in the pic.He told me it was not uncommon & was probably due to a manufacturing fault in the disk.he said keep spinning something at that speed with say a hairline crack & something has to give the faster the drive the bigger the bang.

Dave

Bill69
January 17th, 2008, 02:59 AM
Hi big_b,

Ah so it is not unique then, just wondered. My problem now is trying to get another winxp disk without having to pay for another licence. I don't think Microsoft will come to the party. Do you?

Cheers,
Bill69

Franglen
January 17th, 2008, 03:08 AM
I agree with KCDowdy & big_b.............. I also had a disc disintergrate and it totally destroyed a brand new 52X DVD combo drive. All a disc needs is the slightest fracture combined with the speeds those things are spinning these days and KABOOM!!!!!!
Franglen

big_b
January 17th, 2008, 04:54 AM
Hi big_b,

Ah so it is not unique then, just wondered. My problem now is trying to get another winxp disk without having to pay for another licence. I don't think Microsoft will come to the party. Do you?

Cheers,
Bill69

Can you say borrow a disk from someone to install but use your own disk serial number.I have a backups of mine & my Daughters it doesn't see to mind which disk I use Mine my daughters or a backup as long as the serial number is the same as the one I registered with on that PC.

Dave

Bill69
January 17th, 2008, 05:01 AM
Hi big-b,

Yes I can borrow a disk, but if you are fitting a brand new HDD for the OS to go on how can it know what the previous serial number was? Still I can but try. I have been trying to get in touch with Microsoft in Wellington but they have one of these phone systems that keep you hanging on for hours.
Thanks to all who replied.

Cheers
Bill69

big_b
January 17th, 2008, 05:36 AM
The serial number has nothing to do with the HDD it the number that came with the XP Disk It should be on a sticker In the box or in the xp manual

Dave

Bill69
January 18th, 2008, 05:33 AM
Hi big_b,

Yes I've got the serial number ok., but that one wont work with a different disk. Each xp disk will have it's own serial number, just like Trainz disks have their own serial numbers. No??? Therefore if I can't get microsoft to replace it for say the cost of the disk and shipping I will have to buy another licence to get another disk.

Cheers,
Bill69

big_b
January 18th, 2008, 07:36 AM
I have 2 genuine xp disks( my computer & my daughters ) I have used the same disk to do a clean reinstall on both my Daughters & my computer but using our own keys without problems so far.It couldn't hurt to try to load from a borrowed disk.

Remember if it works don't make a copy of the disk to use for future use as MS would want you to buy a new one .

Dave

sethmcs
January 18th, 2008, 09:24 AM
Figuring this mistery out is mission impossible.

This disk will self destruct in 15 seconds........:confused:

SVAndrei
January 18th, 2008, 12:07 PM
WHOA!! I've been working as a Network Admin for 3 years, but i never saw a smashed up XP disk. This has to be the ULTIMATE XP crash...

About the serial, 85% of the times the serial works with another kit. We at work have an en-masse serial for about 200 units, yet i only use one installation disk, that originally had another CD key. And it accepts the en-masse one. I think you are clear.

About that drive, though, i would advise replacing it, before it busts up something more precious like an XP disk (Say a TRS disk :confused:?)

Bill69
January 18th, 2008, 04:32 PM
WHOA!! I've been working as a Network Admin for 3 years, but i never saw a smashed up XP disk. This has to be the ULTIMATE XP crash...

About the serial, 85% of the times the serial works with another kit. We at work have an en-masse serial for about 200 units, yet i only use one installation disk, that originally had another CD key. And it accepts the en-masse one. I think you are clear.

About that drive, though, i would advise replacing it, before it busts up something more precious like an XP disk (Say a TRS disk :confused:?)

Hi SVAndrei,
No worries about it destroying a Trainz disk, I don't run trainz on that machine. It is basically just a backup machine, I copy Trainz data, local folder for TRS2006 and world folder for TRS2004, every night and copy the same data to DVD+RW once per week direct from my main computer.

Cheers,
Bill69

tbryson2
January 18th, 2008, 05:39 PM
I saw this on MythBusters!!! :D They SUCCESSFULLY destroyed a disk but it took a LOT of RPM's to do so. If I recall, they spun it up to "standard" disk speed and a bad disk did destroy itself.

I've broken disks by hand and some take a LOT of work, and some just snap without any real force. I would suspect Msoft to use good disks, but I"m not going to flex mine to verify that! ;)