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ktain.ny
January 4th, 2018, 07:37 PM
So theres that nice 4-8-2 which is all rusted and weathered on the DLS, and a few other european engines here and there, but theres not much that I've seen. Are there any nice weathered steamers out there? Preferably American but I suppose british would work in a pinch. Something like this I guess.

https://bloy.net/images/2013/06-14b-large.jpg

pware
January 4th, 2018, 08:47 PM
If it is something that you are going to do for your own personal use and not to be distributed then most creators will allow you to reskin their locos from the DLS. Reskinning is not all that difficult but does take a bit of practice and you can use software such as GIMP which costs nothing. That way you get the locos rusted to the degree that you want and not have to rely on what is available on the DLS or have to "gimme pig" the creators.

ktain.ny
January 4th, 2018, 09:48 PM
Yeah, at the end of the day, I suppose that you are correct.

whitepass
January 5th, 2018, 10:34 AM
A steam engine would spend 20% of it's time in the shop so most did not get all rusty. Would you work next to a rusty boiler with 250psi in it?

nfitzsimmons
January 5th, 2018, 11:11 AM
I would like to see a few converted to scenery for use as scrapped or retired objects. Maybe a few more diesels as well. I've tried to create a couple for my own use, but the results have been...disappointing.

ktain.ny
January 5th, 2018, 03:32 PM
I would like to see a few converted to scenery for use as scrapped or retired objects. Maybe a few more diesels as well. I've tried to create a couple for my own use, but the results have been...disappointing.
Yeah agreed

A steam engine would spend 20% of it's time in the shop so most did not get all rusty. Would you work next to a rusty boiler with 250psi in it?
But... I'm talking about retired, scrap locomotives my guy.

pware
January 5th, 2018, 03:38 PM
I would like to see a few converted to scenery for use as scrapped or retired objects. Maybe a few more diesels as well. I've tried to create a couple for my own use, but the results have been...disappointing.

It is a "trial and error" process and some practice is required. It took me a while to learn the reskinning process and each asset is different. Creating a loco or wagon that looks like it is fresh out of the paint shop is fairly easy, making it look realistically dirty is more challenging but you do it in small steps. For example, add a little bit of grey "soot" around the exhausts on a diesel, check how it looks in Trainz viewer, add more, recheck, etc.

It is a huge advantage if you use a graphic editor that uses layers, such as GIMP, so each incremental change can be added to a new layer. If the change does not work, e.g. looks "over the top", then edit or delete that layer.

pware
January 5th, 2018, 03:46 PM
A steam engine would spend 20% of it's time in the shop so most did not get all rusty. Would you work next to a rusty boiler with 250psi in it?

I would happily work next to a steam loco which had a rusty outer layer but the outer layer is not the boiler. That is inside the outer shell and is protected from the weather, regardless of how rusty that shell is.

It usually comes down to how much the operator/owner cares about the appearance of their locos. I have seen plenty of very dirty diesels running around as well as some grimy rusty looking steam locos but they all pass operational safety requirements. A dirty loco can pull just as well as a clean one.

slenderman8888
January 5th, 2018, 05:03 PM
how about this for a very rusty abandoned locomotive? maybe a bit too much
https://s18.postimg.org/rlmv1yavd/slenderman8888_20171102_0001.jpg

philskene
January 5th, 2018, 05:09 PM
ktain --

Weathered steamers? I've updated some of Ben Neal's to work in T:ANE. Search the Download Station with "philskene" as the author.

Phil

mezzoprezzo
January 5th, 2018, 05:16 PM
Whecsailor made three totally rusted out ancient steam locos in various stages of decay. They look US style.

Do a title search on the DLS for End of the line making sure that the UTC box is ticked.

Matt3985
January 5th, 2018, 07:28 PM
If you head over to Paulz Trains, he will gladly make his engines very heavily weathered to the point where they look like they have rust on them, he also has a couple of British Scrap engines (he hasn't made any USA ones yet) but you will have to purchase his stuff and then request what you want the engine to look like.

teddytoot
January 6th, 2018, 04:24 AM
If you go here (http://3dtrains.com/guides/painting/) you will find a useful guide on weathering. Although old and written for MSTS it is relevant for what you want.

leksie
January 6th, 2018, 08:20 AM
https://trainz.rypi.cz/download/zobrazit/233-cd-cargo-742-009-4/

ktain.ny
January 6th, 2018, 11:32 AM
how about this for a very rusty abandoned locomotive? maybe a bit too much
https://s18.postimg.org/rlmv1yavd/slenderman8888_20171102_0001.jpg
Now that-- looks awesome!

ktain.ny
January 6th, 2018, 11:33 AM
ktain --

Weathered steamers? I've updated some of Ben Neal's to work in T:ANE. Search the Download Station with "philskene" as the author.

Phil
Thanks, I have them and they are great!

ktain.ny
January 6th, 2018, 11:35 AM
Whecsailor made three totally rusted out ancient steam locos in various stages of decay. They look US style.

Do a title search on the DLS for End of the line making sure that the UTC box is ticked.
Those are good, but I was thinking of something a tad bit more modern. However, they will work and I'm going to use them!

mezzoprezzo
January 6th, 2018, 06:01 PM
Those are good, but I was thinking of something a tad bit more modern. However, they will work and I'm going to use them!
There are some nice Polish steam locos made by lookseek on the DLS. They are 20th century and made in new, weathered, and totally rusty versions.

Locomotive PKP Ty2-64 kuid:341856:100247 and its matching tender podw Ty2-64 tender kuid:341856:100237 is a particularly good example.

Here it is on one of my old routes.

http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff461/fstrainz/e45c9e6e.jpg~original

VIA6415
January 6th, 2018, 11:12 PM
http://images.n3vgames.com/trainzportal/mytrainz/617257/screenshots/53244/1000/My-Trainz-Screenshot-Image.jpg

ktain.ny
January 7th, 2018, 10:23 AM
http://images.n3vgames.com/trainzportal/mytrainz/617257/screenshots/53244/1000/My-Trainz-Screenshot-Image.jpg
Yeah, thats the one that I have. Fantastic repaint.

ktain.ny
January 7th, 2018, 10:24 AM
There are some nice Polish steam locos made by lookseek on the DLS. They are 20th century and made in new, weathered, and totally rusty versions.

Locomotive PKP Ty2-64 kuid:341856:100247 and its matching tender podw Ty2-64 tender kuid:341856:100237 is a particularly good example.

Here it is on one of my old routes.


Nice engine on a nice route :)

ktain.ny
January 7th, 2018, 10:25 AM
If you head over to Paulz Trains, he will gladly make his engines very heavily weathered to the point where they look like they have rust on them, he also has a couple of British Scrap engines (he hasn't made any USA ones yet) but you will have to purchase his stuff and then request what you want the engine to look like.
I might just end up doing that because for video making it will really suit my needs.

VIA6415
January 7th, 2018, 06:42 PM
I made 2 rustbuckets but they're not very good.
http://images.n3vgames.com/trainzportal/mytrainz/617257/screenshots/53323/800/My-Trainz-Screenshot-Image.jpg

pware
January 7th, 2018, 09:19 PM
Try darkening the red and mix in some light grey. It is a trial and error process.

boleyd
January 8th, 2018, 05:35 AM
Locomotives with perfect rust do not look good. The PKP Ty2-64 kuid:341856:100247 mentioned above is a proper rust appearance.

ktain.ny
January 8th, 2018, 09:51 PM
Hey via how may I acquire that rusty steam engine? Or is it private?

VIA6415
January 8th, 2018, 10:20 PM
It's on DLS under my old user ID dragonharh Please forgive the poor detail they are old Tir 1 models and one of my frists made.
<kuid:375451:100417> DPR Old Engine V1 ( Abandon )
<kuid:375451:100418> DPR Old Steam Tender ( Abandon )

ktain.ny
January 9th, 2018, 09:01 AM
Awesome thank you!

meatloaf747
January 10th, 2018, 04:17 AM
Scrap E2... I like how realistic the rust textures look on the E2. It looks really old & really rusty. (on DLS).

http://hostthenpost.org/uploads/c17031cf5e6bac9ffb11b10d4589e13a.jpg (http://hostthenpost.org)

http://hostthenpost.org/uploads/4213803c6a2cd74f73ed5d20aad4ad59.jpg (http://hostthenpost.org)

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