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shaun_rt
November 24th, 2014, 10:11 AM
Jr should make uncovered coil cars for bnsf sp conrail csx bn atsf and etc. And also more sets of ttx maxi car sets like bran sp bnsf cmo etc. Hope someone grants my wish because I prefer more r oadnames on the maxi car set rather than the singles. Though the single car units are great but like maxi car 3 sets better.

xcrossi
November 24th, 2014, 10:16 AM
Don't should on me.
You should learn to make it yourself.

hauntedclipp
November 24th, 2014, 11:36 AM
"Please" and "thank you" go much further than "should" and "don't like".
Because the way content creators will see your request, all they'll get out of it is that you're pretty much demanding these new models while condemning an existing one from the same people you're requesting from.

ryanstrains
November 24th, 2014, 12:11 PM
Shaun:

Please be kind when making a request for someone to make something, and try not to also say you don't like their content in the same post. There's about a 0% chance of them ever wanting to make that for you if you trash their other content in the process.

shaun_rt
November 24th, 2014, 01:20 PM
Shaun:

Please be kind when making a request for someone to make something, and try not to also say you don't like their content in the same post. There's about a 0% chance of them ever wanting to make that for you if you trash their other content in the process. didn't mean to sound like that I'm at work and was sending that message in a hurry didn't mean to bash anyone should have worded that better but yeah lol

shaun_rt
November 24th, 2014, 01:22 PM
If I knew how to make them myself I would trust me I like learning especially when it comes to trainz or simulator games any help would be appreciated thanks

judahGrice
November 24th, 2014, 01:26 PM
What about the RRMods coil cars? http://rrmods.com/evans.shtml

and there even is a selection of JR coil cars: http://jointedrail.com/index.php/g41a-coil-car-pack.html

and if you don't think JR well cars are realistic, i don't know what to tell you.

oknotsen
November 24th, 2014, 02:31 PM
didn't mean to sound like that I'm at work and was sending that message in a hurryLesson learned: Don't send messages in a hurry.

nicky9499
November 24th, 2014, 02:45 PM
You'd typically associate bad spelling with being in a hurry, not bad attitude.

Regardless, there is good news for Shaun. Creating additional road names can be as easy as painting over a new color or pasting a vector logo on top of an existing one - better known as a "reskin".

xcrossi
November 24th, 2014, 02:57 PM
Just one observation then I'm out of here..
Check his previous posts.:eek:

shaun_rt
November 24th, 2014, 03:08 PM
Ok people who are criticising me my bad for being normal human being I'm not good at wording things sometimes so get off my back please. And I'm not good at doing reskins sorry but will someone be nice enough to help me if not ill close the thread. N thank you for directing me to those websites.

nicky9499
November 24th, 2014, 03:17 PM
Ok Shaun, today's your lucky day because it's 4am, I'm sleepless and in an inexplicably helpful mood.

Do you have Photoshop? If not, download this free alternative (http://www.gimp.org/). Let's walk you through reskinning a TTX wellcar set.

MeowRailroad
November 24th, 2014, 03:56 PM
Grammar, punctuation, and spelling correctly are good skills to learn, and people sometimes take you more seriously that way.

Falcus
November 24th, 2014, 04:29 PM
Well, just in an attempt to balance the scales a little, I would point out that if you're texting in a hurry on your phone, you're probably using Auto-Spell, which is probably doing the correct spelling, but I have yet to see one with things like "Sarcastic Mode" "Passive Agressive Mode" "Shameless Flattery Mode" or other such abilities to help you tailor your message's over all Inflections.....

That said, as someone else noted, probably not a good idea to be posting on forums from your phone in the first place. I drive school bus for a living, and between almost running cell phone users over because they don't see the big giant 15 ton yellow bus festooned with Bright Lights they're stepping out in front of (This has happened to me personally, TWICE), and the idiots on the road on their cell phones weaving better then almost any drunk I've ever seen behind the wheel, Im very much a proponent of "Cell Phone Etiquette"......

That said, @Nicky:
Are you gonna post this in the thread? I'd be interested in reading it if so, maybe I'll figure out where I keep going wrong with reskins.....

Falcus

shaun_rt
November 24th, 2014, 06:38 PM
What steps do I use to r eskin the maxi car set on gimp?

nicky9499
November 25th, 2014, 12:01 AM
1. Locate the cars in CM. I'll use kuid2:4524:300010:1 (TTX 53 Maxi-IV A) as an example.
2. Right click, clone it. This is a good habit, in case you mess things up you still have the original intact.
3. CM should automatically display the clone. Press CTRL+SHIFT+E.
4. Open the mesh body folder, and open the map1.tga file. (Ta-da, here's where all the fun bits happen.)

You edit this just like you would any digital image or photograph. If this was 10 years ago you could even get away with using Microsoft Paint. Let's use this BNSF set as an example (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/Nzk2WDE2MDA=/z/O0gAAOSwD0lUcVvW/$_57.JPG), it's not exact but it'll do for now.

A big part of texture work is research and sourcing. Please don't use an airbrush to paint your logo like some people do. We need a proper one, which I've found here. (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/ee/BNSF_logo.svg/2000px-BNSF_logo.svg.png) Save the image. Now, you see, the reference image calls for a white logo, not orange and black, so we need to process this first. Open the logo in GIMP.

Color range, select white/negative space, delete. Color overlay > white, don't preserve luminosity. Save as PNG.*
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w109/nicky9499/1-white_zpsf2d87ff9.png~original

The reference image also calls for "BNSF ######" numbering. This JR car has automated running numbers (ARN). If you're reskinning a unique car you can remove ARN altogether and skin 1 car number. However we'll leave that intact for now - it's pretty advanced stuff. We're going to remove the black rectangle and replace DTTX with BNSF. You'll need the appropriate font, which I've found here. (http://www.railsimstuff.com/fonts1.php) Use that font also to replace the A/B/C set markings.

Copy orange, paste over black, clone edges.*
Patch tool DTTX text, type BNSF over it.*
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w109/nicky9499/4-heal_zpsa21ae14f.png~original

Ok, so far so good, but the color's all wrong though. It should be dark red.

Adjustment layer > black and white > maximum white. New layer, paint red, blending mode multiply.*

There, done.
*Quick notes. WIP.

rrfoose
November 25th, 2014, 01:26 AM
Nicky, that's a very nice description of how to reskin you started there. I'm even going to give it a try! Thanks!

shaun_rt
November 25th, 2014, 06:18 AM
Thanx a lot I will do that when I get time next week since its thanksgiving holiday in all. But will definitely do that next Monday or Tuesday and see how it turns out.

helian43
November 25th, 2014, 09:59 AM
Thank you very much for the information.
Helian 43

Falcus
November 25th, 2014, 04:11 PM
I'm in agreement with rrfoose... This is probably the single most productive request thread I've ever personally read. And all Thanks to you Nicky.....

Pics would be great if you get the chance and are still so inclined. After that, only thing I could suggest would be to make a sticky somewhere with these instructions.

Falcus

shaun_rt
November 25th, 2014, 08:15 PM
Pictures of the set when they are further along would help so I know what mine are supposed to look like but thanx for the help

Falcus
November 25th, 2014, 08:38 PM
As long as you follow his instructions, they'll come out the way they're supposed to, I think.

Falcus

shaun_rt
November 25th, 2014, 08:42 PM
Do I do the same for another type of set say the pacertrain logo if you know what that looks like.

judahGrice
November 25th, 2014, 10:07 PM
Do I do the same for another type of set say the pacertrain logo if you know what that looks like.

yes you would

nicky9499
November 25th, 2014, 10:16 PM
I'm not done with the tut. Personally I'd like more BNSF wellcars too so I'll see it through. Disclaimer; it's not prototypical, not without shifting the ARN anyway, and I am by no stretch of any imagination a competent reskinner - there are much more talented folks around here.

These (http://t21.com.mx/sites/default/files/pacer_stacktrain.JPG) fit the Maxi IV's nicely. As for the other type (http://i.ytimg.com/vi/QtjrvxWCI0s/maxresdefault.jpg), I think you're better off with Adamovic's NSC wellcars (http://vrrmods.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=161%3Ansc-wellcar-downloads&catid=31%3Ageneral&Itemid=63) which look more similar with their vertical bracing.

shaun_rt
November 25th, 2014, 10:24 PM
How do you move the arn around anyway didn't know if its possible or not

nicky9499
November 25th, 2014, 10:32 PM
Long story short you'll need either the source files to move the numbers (they're part of the mesh, offset by about 5mm) or create your own ARN mesh (just simple planes to stick the digits onto) and use the config to add it as an attachment. Alot of work, something I've never done before.

shaun_rt
November 25th, 2014, 11:28 PM
Huh word it better please because I'm not that good at messing with configuration files and stuff would they look good with the default arn attached? So I won't have to move it around could I take jointedrail's single bnsf h3 well car configuration file and replace the ttx file so the Arnold is in place? If not just a thought.

nicky9499
November 26th, 2014, 01:05 AM
Yes, that's what we're doing, creating our reskins around the existing ARN. Your results will look good - if not 100% proto - so long as nothing is overlapping the digits. (Looking back now I realize I made a glaring mistake, will fix.)

shaun_rt
November 26th, 2014, 06:14 AM
Can uou walk me through it please so I know I'm not messing anything up

shaun_rt
November 26th, 2014, 11:42 AM
I looked at actual photos of bnsf well cars on Google n shows new logo and the letters bnsf on same side jus for a tip and a reference

shaun_rt
December 1st, 2014, 01:10 PM
Any new screenshots or pictures of the progress would help lol

nicky9499
December 1st, 2014, 11:07 PM
Sorry Shaun, I've been staying in school for the past few days and haven't had time for Trainz. Promise I'll update as soon as I can.

shaun_rt
December 2nd, 2014, 06:46 AM
Its ok I understand school comes first. I would be on my trainz game but stupid cd drive messed up waiting on a new one before I can play:(

shaun_rt
March 4th, 2015, 05:33 PM
any progress lately? lol