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chris2001trainz2010
February 23rd, 2014, 11:07 AM
Well, im a little bored, so I thought id jot down my ideas on what real-life locos the Island of Sodor locos are based on (:hehe:). So here they are:

Thomas: Fowler 3F Jinty 0-6-0T
Edward: Fowler 2P 4-4-0'
Henry: Stanier 5MT Black 5 4-6-0*
Gordon: Gresley A3 4-6-2
James: Fowler Hughes Crab 2-6-0
Percy: L&YR 0F Pug 0-4-0T*
Toby: GER J70**
Duck: GWR 57xx 0-6-0PT
Oliver: GWR 14xx 0-6-2T
Neville: SR Bulleid Q1 0-6-0
BoCo: Metrovick Co-Bo Diesel
Diesel, Arry, and Bert: BR Class 09 0-6-0
Jock: Ravenglass & Eskdale "Northern Rock" 2-6-2
Arthur: Fowler 4MT 2-6-4
Duke and Bertram: Ffestiniog #2 "Prince" 0-4-0
Derek: BR Class 14 0-6-0
Mavis: BR Class 04 Tram Version 0-6-0
Wilbert: BR J94 Austerity 0-6-0


Those are the ones I can think of. if you have any contradictions post them here.

C.S.


*This is an educated guess based off of SI3D's Railway Series Locos
**This was spotted by someone else here

Zeldaboy14
February 23rd, 2014, 11:11 AM
Great! Thanks for the info. You must be another Thomas and Friends fan as well!

chris2001trainz2010
February 23rd, 2014, 11:19 AM
yeah. watched it a lot when I was younger.

benjaminw
February 23rd, 2014, 01:35 PM
Thomas is a Billinton E2 built for the LB&SCR.

chris2001trainz2010
February 23rd, 2014, 01:47 PM
oh. thanks.

benjaminw
February 23rd, 2014, 03:25 PM
And Toby is a GER/LNER J70 tram. :wave:

chris2001trainz2010
February 23rd, 2014, 03:33 PM
good to know. I couldn't figure it out.

benjaminw
February 23rd, 2014, 03:45 PM
Welcome. ;)

Zeldaboy14
February 23rd, 2014, 03:53 PM
Well, Now I know a lot more about the specifications of the engine's. I don't think hardly anyone knew what sort of class Toby was.

chris2001trainz2010
February 23rd, 2014, 04:14 PM
I based most of them (Thomas, Edward, Henry, Gordon, Percy, Duck, Oliver, Neville, Jock) from models I have in-game, but the others (James, BoCo,) are pure guesses. Like stated, Percy and Henry are based on Sodor Island 3D's NWR photos of the locos. I also just added Stepney, Arthur, Bert, Arry, Duke, Bertram, Mavis, Wilbert and Derek to my first post.


Here are the ones I don't know:

1. Clive, Matt, and Neil
2. Mike, Bert, Rex, Frank, and the Blisters
3. Skarloey, Peter Sam, Smudger, Duncan, Sir Handel, Rusty, Culdee, Lord Harry and Rheneas
4. Bill, Ben, Daisy, and Lady

edh6
February 23rd, 2014, 04:15 PM
http://www.pegnsean.net/~railwayseries/engines.htm
http://www.pegnsean.net/~railwayseries/tvengines.htm

This website contains everything you could possibly want to know about the real life inspirations for the Railway Series (as the books should properly be known). I loved the Awdry books when I was younger, and it's quite interesting when you discover how many of the stories are based on real life events.

alexl102
February 23rd, 2014, 04:16 PM
Mavis: BR Class 04 Tram (as seen on the Wisbech)
Percy's a GWR Avonside 0-4-0 T with a bunker added.
Stepney: SR Terrier A1X
Donald and Douglas: Caledonian Railway 812 Class
Daisy: Supposedly a single-car version of the BR Class 101, some argue a class 121.
Bill & Ben are based on the Port of Par Peckett 0-4-0T Tank Engines Alfred (Albert?) and Judy with cut-down cabs.
Thomas is definitely an E2.
Obviously the Skarloey Railway's locos are based on those of the Talyllyn, the Culdee Railway on the Snowdon Mountain Railway and the Arlesdale on the Ravenglass & Eskdale Railway.
Wilbert & 16 are Hunslet Austerities.
The Diesel is a class 40.
Bear is a Hymek
Murdoch is a 9F
Arthur's an LMS Ivatt 2-6-2T

chris2001trainz2010
February 23rd, 2014, 04:27 PM
sorry to contradict you, alex, but I have a very old diecast model of Arthur, and it depicts him with 4 rear wheels.

Thanks for Daisy, the Diesel and Bear, whick were unknown by me, Bill / Ben, The SK Railway locos, and Donald / Douglas.

You may see Mavis on my post above. you post was submitted while I was editing my posts.

I had forgotten about Murdoch and Stepney before. thanks for helping me remember.

Zeldaboy14
February 23rd, 2014, 04:34 PM
What about Diesel and Diesel 10?

BLACKWATCH
February 23rd, 2014, 04:37 PM
sorry to contradict you, alex, but I have a very old diecast model of Arthur, and it depicts him with 4 rear wheels.

Which would make him an LMS 4P :D

chris2001trainz2010
February 23rd, 2014, 04:54 PM
wait, saw a picture of the model. has 2 wheels on its back

BLACKWATCH
February 23rd, 2014, 05:13 PM
wait, saw a picture of the model. has 2 wheels on its back

In that case, Arthur is an Ivatt Class 2 tank engine designed for use on the LMS.

edit, just found this ............ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_engines_%28Thomas_%26_Friends%29#Arthur

nathanmallard
February 23rd, 2014, 05:55 PM
James is actually a Lancarshire & Yorkshire Railway Hughes '28' class 0-6-0, rebuilt as 2-6-0 on arrival to Sodor. To be honest James isn't really based off anything, but he is most certainly not a "Crab".

chris2001trainz2010
February 23rd, 2014, 06:59 PM
a lot of guesses were based and expanded on due to the (often incorrect) tenders. the shape reminded me of a crabs' tender.

benjaminw
February 23rd, 2014, 08:25 PM
Diesel is a BR class 08 or 09 shunter and diesel 10 is a "warship". :D

hauntedclipp
February 24th, 2014, 04:08 AM
The Crabs' tenders were standard Fowler tenders, which are also the standard tenders used on the North Western Railway in The Railway Series books, as exemplified by Edward, Henry, James, and Gordon. This of course differs from how they appear in the TV series.
It's theorized that the four original tender engines initially came to Sodor with the tenders they were originally delivered to their first owners with. Edward from the Furness, James from the Lancashire & Yorkshire, Henry from the LMS, and Gordon from the Great Northern.
For example, Gordon likely arrived with an eight wheel GNR tender, the same type used by the earlier A1's. With the NWR's considerably shorter mainline (I believe a little more than 60 miles), the larger fuel capacity of the GNR tender was unnecessary and swapped with a smaller six wheel Fowler tender. Turntable length may have been a factor in the switch as well.
Using a standard tender design also gave the four engines a somewhat uniformed look, which most railways did with their various loco classes and may have been Reginald Dalby's intentions when he first illustrated the four.
Later on, when Sodor's fictional origins were thoroughly explained in two books, the tenders were revealed to be of Fowler design, which tied in nicely with Sir Toppham Hatt's origins working at Crewe, where no doubt many Fowler locos came for maintenance.

Oof, I'm rambling again...