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viscas91
December 7th, 2013, 01:25 PM
I am talking about Indian Railway Locomotives.(WDG-3D,WDP4RD,etc)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giyqo5QSyv4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n8_yxOHhfI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxCtiMRHlAg

johnwhelan
December 7th, 2013, 01:41 PM
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Trainz/Tutorial_for_Blender#Newcomers_start_here

Have fun making some.

Cheerio John

viscas91
December 7th, 2013, 01:44 PM
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Trainz/Tutorial_for_Blender#Newcomers_start_here

Have fun making some.

Cheerio John

Mate if i can make the model then why will ask auran to make one..O.o

domsarto
December 7th, 2013, 02:02 PM
Actually your question was not addressed to Auran, but to the forum readers in general.
So as a forum reader my answer would be. When you actually make it yourself.

Its a big sub continent with a huge population, surely someone in India knows how to use GMax, Blender etc.

viscas91
December 7th, 2013, 02:04 PM
Actually your question was not addressed to Auran, but to the forum readers in general.
So as a forum reader my answer would be. When you actually make it yourself.

Its a big sub continent with a huge population, surely someone in India knows how to use GMax, Blender etc.

So are you telling me that auran will release the same thing again and again.
No improvisation?

SR6900
December 7th, 2013, 02:51 PM
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?88663-Indian-Railways-DLW-WDM2-locomotive-available-for-download

JCitron
December 7th, 2013, 03:06 PM
So are you telling me that auran will release the same thing again and again.
No improvisation?

Auran, you mean N3V, doesn't make much content. Their focus is on the game engine and support. It's the Trainz community, meaning the people in the forums here, that make the content. Having said that, you can make your own, or find someone who knows about 3d models and they can make the assets for you.

You say here "...will release the same thing again and again".

Apparently you are an owner and user and have not registered your Trainz version. So which version are you talking about, exactly?. If you registered your copy of Trainz, you could actually have access to the over 300,000 items available to you on the Download Station as well as full support from the community. If you have already registered, contact the Helpdesk to resolve this issue.

Regards,

John

johnwhelan
December 7th, 2013, 03:36 PM
Mate if i can make the model then why will ask auran to make one..O.o

Auran or rather N3V these days make very little content as someone has mentioned its basically the community that makes the content.

Cheerio John

Nelsona8c
December 7th, 2013, 03:58 PM
I know it's not specifically what you're looking for, but one of the nicest prototypical fan-made settings I've seen is the IR's Darjeeling Himalayan Railway. The route used to be downloadable from the Trainz Darjeeling Himalayan website (http://darjeelingtrainz.com/) but I see they've moved it to the Download Station. Makes for a smoother installation but it does mean that downloading it will take days, possibly weeks, unless you buy a subscription. That's a choice made by the group that made the route, though, so please don't blame the big mean software developers.

(Now, we can talk about the big mean software developers' unreasonable download throttling, or the way I came away from their website under the impression that DLS would only be slower for unpaid users instead of totally unusable... but that's for another thread.)

I was going to suggest that part of the issue might be that nobody wants to work on trains meant for Broad Gauge when something made for Standard Gauge can fit in with so many more layouts. But even though there's a pretty reasonable following for narrow gauge stuff, Indian Railways equipment on Metre Gauge isn't well represented either, so I'm probably wrong on that.

Ultimately, it comes down to this: the people who are volunteering their own time to develop content for fun are developing the things they're interested in. For me, I have an interest in "short line" freight services in North America, so that's what I'm working on.


Mate if i can make the model then why will ask auran to make one..O.o
Me neither, so in order to create the content I'm interested in, I'm learning.

I was gonna say that I liked that Indian diesel, reminded me a bit of some of the later Alco RS series... turns out they're cousins! The WDM3A you posted a video of is an evolution of the WDM2, built in India but prototyped by Alco a few years after the similar looking RS-11, both of which have a reputation for being versatile and reliable... though it seems the Indian-built ones have long outlasted Alco's own! Nice!

Franklin_Prestage
December 7th, 2013, 04:45 PM
@viscas91:

In terms of creation, the Darjeeling Himalayan Railroad took about 10 persons 3 and a half years to create the route. Everything on it that was Indian was created by the same ones who created the route. Our decision to put it on the DLS was not taken lightly, but to maintain the web site indefinitely created a strain on finances and other considerations. As another said, in order to download it from the Download Station (DLS) you will have to invest money in purchasing a First Class Ticket that will allow more than 100Mb and data rates around 12-15Kbps.

You will also have to register your game so that you can even use the DLS. I highly advise doing that as soon as you can so that more persons will help you. No registration - not much support (or sympathy) from us users.

oknotsen
December 7th, 2013, 06:17 PM
@ Viscas,

Can you register your game to your account so we can see for which version of the game your are searching content for?

https://www.auran.com/planetauran/SN_Enter_Serialnumber.php

viscas91
December 7th, 2013, 09:28 PM
Auran, you mean N3V, doesn't make much content. Their focus is on the game engine and support. It's the Trainz community, meaning the people in the forums here, that make the content. Having said that, you can make your own, or find someone who knows about 3d models and they can make the assets for you.

You say here "...will release the same thing again and again".

Apparently you are an owner and user and have not registered your Trainz version. So which version are you talking about, exactly?. If you registered your copy of Trainz, you could actually have access to the over 300,000 items available to you on the Download Station as well as full support from the community. If you have already registered, contact the Helpdesk to resolve this issue.

Regards,

John

I sold my TS2012 on steam because i can't download DLC's (my connection is slow 50 kbps).....each time i tried it got disconnected.

I prefer DVD now.

viscas91
December 7th, 2013, 09:40 PM
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Trainz/Tutorial_for_Blender#Newcomers_start_here

Have fun making some.

Cheerio John


Actually your question was not addressed to Auran, but to the forum readers in general.
So as a forum reader my answer would be. When you actually make it yourself.

Its a big sub continent with a huge population, surely someone in India knows how to use GMax, Blender etc.


http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?88663-Indian-Railways-DLW-WDM2-locomotive-available-for-download


Auran, you mean N3V, doesn't make much content. Their focus is on the game engine and support. It's the Trainz community, meaning the people in the forums here, that make the content. Having said that, you can make your own, or find someone who knows about 3d models and they can make the assets for you.

You say here "...will release the same thing again and again".

Apparently you are an owner and user and have not registered your Trainz version. So which version are you talking about, exactly?. If you registered your copy of Trainz, you could actually have access to the over 300,000 items available to you on the Download Station as well as full support from the community. If you have already registered, contact the Helpdesk to resolve this issue.

Regards,

John



Auran or rather N3V these days make very little content as someone has mentioned its basically the community that makes the content.

Cheerio John


I know it's not specifically what you're looking for, but one of the nicest prototypical fan-made settings I've seen is the IR's Darjeeling Himalayan Railway. The route used to be downloadable from the Trainz Darjeeling Himalayan website but I see they've moved it to the Download Station. Makes for a smoother installation but it does mean that downloading it will take days, possibly weeks, unless you buy a subscription. That's a choice made by the group that made the route, though, so please don't blame the big mean software developers.

(Now, we can talk about the big mean software developers' unreasonable download throttling, or the way I came away from their website under the impression that DLS would only be slower for unpaid users instead of totally unusable... but that's for another thread.)

I was going to suggest that part of the issue might be that nobody wants to work on trains meant for Broad Gauge when something made for Standard Gauge can fit in with so many more layouts. But even though there's a pretty reasonable following for narrow gauge stuff, Indian Railways equipment on Metre Gauge isn't well represented either, so I'm probably wrong on that.

Ultimately, it comes down to this: the people who are volunteering their own time to develop content for fun are developing the things they're interested in. For me, I have an interest in "short line" freight services in North America, so that's what I'm working on.


Me neither, so in order to create the content I'm interested in, I'm learning.

I was gonna say that I liked that Indian diesel, reminded me a bit of some of the later Alco RS series... turns out they're cousins! The WDM3A you posted a video of is an evolution of the WDM2, built in India but prototyped by Alco a few years after the similar looking RS-11, both of which have a reputation for being versatile and reliable... though it seems the Indian-built ones have long outlasted Alco's own! Nice!


@viscas91:

In terms of creation, the Darjeeling Himalayan Railroad took about 10 persons 3 and a half years to create the route. Everything on it that was Indian was created by the same ones who created the route. Our decision to put it on the DLS was not taken lightly, but to maintain the web site indefinitely created a strain on finances and other considerations. As another said, in order to download it from the Download Station (DLS) you will have to invest money in purchasing a First Class Ticket that will allow more than 100Mb and data rates around 12-15Kbps.

You will also have to register your game so that you can even use the DLS. I highly advise doing that as soon as you can so that more persons will help you. No registration - not much support (or sympathy) from us users.


@ Viscas,

Can you register your game to your account so we can see for which version of the game your are searching content for?

https://www.auran.com/planetauran/SN_Enter_Serialnumber.php



Guys I sold my TS 2012 on steam.

I thought auran and n3v were working on Trainz thats why i posted my request here(well i was wrong).

I thought Auran and N3V was like Activision,Treyarch,Blizzard,etc...that have employed programmers,animators,etc for there game developement.

I know how difficult it is to make a game assets...I am a programmer myself...when i code something it will take weeks for me to create a 1mb code.

So no offense for you guys....Nice work on Trainz.

JCitron
December 7th, 2013, 11:28 PM
Understood.

Perhaps you can register your DVD version when you receive it. I suggest you order it from either Simulator Central which is N3V's sales site. www.simulatorcentral.com (http://www.simulatorcentral.com)

May I ask how you were able to sell your Steam copy? I didn't know that was allowed.

Regards,

John

cheechako
December 7th, 2013, 11:42 PM
May I ask how you were able to sell your Steam copy? I didn't know that was allowed.

It is not allowed. If you haven't installed a game you bought, you can "gift" it since it has not be registered to you yet, so it is possible to trade or sell an unregistered inventory copy. I find it rather odd that someone who doesn't trust PayPal or buying on-line is willing to accept payment from and transfer license keys to random strangers on the Internet.

In any case, the answer to the question is clear: Trainz doesn't come with routes and trains from India. There is some stuff on the DLS; Franklin mentioned something that sounds quite impressive. But since the OP is opposed to buying stuff on-line or downloading large files, then the OP is out of luck.

Franklin_Prestage
December 8th, 2013, 09:37 AM
The route I mentioned (DHR) is on the DLS entirely. The largest item (except for the route itself, which is 24.93 Mb) is only 5.42 Mb. Once you are able to utilize the DLS (by purchasing your DVD of the game AND registering it with N3V at SimulatorCentral). Without a FCT, your download will be painfully long (spread out over many, many days) because you have a limit of only 100Mb a day. If you first download the route itself, then Content Manager (which does the actual downloading) will download away until the 100 Mb limit is hit for that day. The next day (which may NOT be a 'day' for you because the 'day' is measured by an Australian 'day') you can continue downloading items until you reach 100 Mb again. Keep doing that until the entire route is downloaded.

OR, you can purchase a FCT and download the whole thing in around an hour. Every item is on the DLS, you will not have to go looking for anything else anywhere else. Be aware, however, that this route is a 2-foot narrowgauge route with steam engines, very steep grades, tight-radius curves and runs from 470 feet up to 7500 feet in 54 miles. It is located in the Bengal district.

If you have any problems downloading, installing, or running the DHR, there is a thread available to you for posting them.

Franklin

viscas91
December 8th, 2013, 11:19 AM
The route I mentioned (DHR) is on the DLS entirely. The largest item (except for the route itself, which is 24.93 Mb) is only 5.42 Mb. Once you are able to utilize the DLS (by purchasing your DVD of the game AND registering it with N3V at SimulatorCentral). Without a FCT, your download will be painfully long (spread out over many, many days) because you have a limit of only 100Mb a day. If you first download the route itself, then Content Manager (which does the actual downloading) will download away until the 100 Mb limit is hit for that day. The next day (which may NOT be a 'day' for you because the 'day' is measured by an Australian 'day') you can continue downloading items until you reach 100 Mb again. Keep doing that until the entire route is downloaded.

OR, you can purchase a FCT and download the whole thing in around an hour. Every item is on the DLS, you will not have to go looking for anything else anywhere else. Be aware, however, that this route is a 2-foot narrowgauge route with steam engines, very steep grades, tight-radius curves and runs from 470 feet up to 7500 feet in 54 miles. It is located in the Bengal district.

If you have any problems downloading, installing, or running the DHR, there is a thread available to you for posting them.

Franklin

I just sold my TS2012 on steam in steam autumn sale.

RRSignal
December 8th, 2013, 11:26 AM
Well, guess you shouldn't have sold it, then? Everything else has been explained to you.

JCitron
December 8th, 2013, 11:48 AM
Viscas,

Thank you for responding and I'm glad you plan to purchase the DVD version in the future. In the future, please refrain from using bold and large text as that, like CAPS is considered shouting and rude. I have taken the liberties to 'quiet' down your post.

Regards,

John
Moderator

viscas91
December 8th, 2013, 11:51 AM
Viscas,

Thank you for responding and I'm glad you plan to purchase the DVD version in the future. In the future, please refrain from using bold and large text as that, like CAPS is considered shouting and rude. I have taken the liberties to 'quiet' down your post.

Regards,

John
Moderator

lol...i will buy the game only when it will have modification....locos,cars,etc.

I'll not buy the game if same thing is released again and again.

Franklin_Prestage
December 8th, 2013, 11:54 AM
Well. And a GIANT good day to you, Sir!

oknotsen
December 8th, 2013, 12:02 PM
Ridiculously large writingViscas,

What makes you think we are so blind that you write your reactions in ridiculously large letters?

If you would not have been so stupid to sell your game but instead register your game (https://www.auran.com/planetauran/SN_Enter_Serialnumber.php) you could have download loads and loads of content via Content Manager.

O well, your lose.

Don't bother repeating the same "sold my game" crap over and over again.
Even without the large letters we can read between the lines.

JCitron
December 8th, 2013, 12:12 PM
Viscas,

Purchase the program when you want, who cares. If you are really interested in Indian content, make some yourself. There is some up on the DLS already in case you're interested, but I guess not. The Trainz community is large, with over 200,000 users. We create and use assets from around the world, and sorry if we didn't have the stuff that you need. That's why N3V, formerly Auran, has made the content creation tools available.

CaptEngland
December 8th, 2013, 12:28 PM
Sorry, but you can not of sold your copy of trainz on steam if you have brought it for yourself and used it. How do you know what is included if you have not used it?

Something fishing here, I think!

Regards.
CaptEngland.

viscas91
December 8th, 2013, 12:59 PM
Sorry, but you can not of sold your copy of trainz on steam if you have brought it for yourself and used it. How do you know what is included if you have not used it?

Something fishing here, I think!

Regards.
CaptEngland.

I never registered it on auran...or something else.
I see that every DLC will damn cost u a lot....so thats's y i sold it.

viscas91
December 8th, 2013, 01:00 PM
Viscas,

Purchase the program when you want, who cares. If you are really interested in Indian content, make some yourself. There is some up on the DLS already in case you're interested, but I guess not. The Trainz community is large, with over 200,000 users. We create and use assets from around the world, and sorry if we didn't have the stuff that you need. That's why N3V, formerly Auran, has made the content creation tools available..


It's nice that Activision,Blizzard ain't like you guy..."Create your content yourself"....You haven't provided SDK yet...:/

viscas91
December 8th, 2013, 01:05 PM
Viscas,

What makes you think we are so blind that you write your reactions in ridiculously large letters?

If you would not have been so stupid to sell your game but instead register your game (https://www.auran.com/planetauran/SN_Enter_Serialnumber.php) you could have download loads and loads of content via Content Manager.

O well, your lose.

Don't bother repeating the same "sold my game" crap over and over again.
Even without the large letters we can read between the lines.

That's what i am saying noob...I bought the game on steam....You want to me to download all the damn DLC's??...then what is the huge size of the game for??

8.6 GB TS 2012...and it have only few routes and locos?...TS2012 had nothing.

And what content is on content manager...i don't see any Good locos except for BNSF(mostly)...most probably i was looking for WDPRD.

Learn something from flight simulators...they've got almost evrything on 1 DVD...additional DlC's can be downloaded.

viscas91
December 8th, 2013, 01:07 PM
Well. And a GIANT good day to you, Sir!

Well i write in big damn writing because every guy wants me to register my trainz sim.

I don't them so many times that i sold my TS2012....i bought Counter Strike : Global Offensive instead.

rickf77
December 8th, 2013, 01:26 PM
Well, why don't you stop bugging everybody and go play with your other game?

Cheers...Rick

Franklin_Prestage
December 8th, 2013, 01:29 PM
Well, why don't you stop bugging everybody and go play with your other game?

Cheers...Rick

Capital idea!

shaneturner12
December 8th, 2013, 01:44 PM
That's what i am saying noob...I bought the game on steam....You want to me to download all the damn DLC's??...then what is the huge size of the game for??

8.6 GB TS 2012...and it have only few routes and locos?...TS2012 had nothing.

And what content is on content manager...i don't see any Good locos except for BNSF(mostly)...most probably i was looking for WDPRD.

Learn something from flight simulators...they've got almost evrything on 1 DVD...additional DlC's can be downloaded.

To be honest with you, as you bought the game off Steam, you would have to expect to have to download the whole installation file which is 2 DVD's worth. If you buy direct from N3V, you would have had the option of a boxed version.

Also, as stated elsewhere, the reason you have been asked to register your version is because the community do not take lightly to unregistered versions as these can be dodgy versions (although sometimes it's a case of the user being unwilling or unable to register their version). Also, registering your serial is a requirement to accessing the content on the Download Station.

Shane

RRSignal
December 8th, 2013, 02:40 PM
8.6 GB TS 2012...and it have only few routes and locos?...TS2012 had nothing.

Sounds like you're talking about the wrong sim.

cheechako
December 8th, 2013, 05:45 PM
The OP is a software developer who misunderstands what an SDK is. (Hint: the lack of one here does not prevent anyone from making Inidian content.)

The OP doesn't trust on-line purchases through PayPal, etc, but trusts random Steam users to send payment to him.

The OP already participated in another thread this past summer where it he said that he cannot register his version. (Come to your own conclusions as to why.)

The OP was pointed to a FREE route that fills his needs and then some, and blows off one of the creators with a simple, "I sold TS2012".

Are we still having fun playing with the troll?