Why they tell do not taking photo military trains

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I want know why Avoid taking pictures of military trains and equipment.

In General Safety Tips for All Rail Fans from

http://www.operationlifesaver.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Tips-Rail-Fan.pdf OLS CA

Ps. I want know to translate Thai langue.

Thankyou

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Trains and rail transport is very useful for the Military, they transport heavy goods that way, so any photography is forbidden (they think you may be a spy)

This is true for all countries, the same for Military aircraft and ships.
 
Not always easy to see between a normal train and a troop trasport, at least not in Russia. Especially if the troops are freigted in cattle wagons :) Recently I saw a 2M62 and three or so troop wagons and platforms with new armor, took some pictures. Oh my, I'm still alive. But yeah, if you going to photograph military trains, don't do it too obvious.
 
Scheduals are usually kept quiet as well. Everyone knows NASA transports the shuttles solid rocket boosters by train and also know where from and where to but never know when.

BTW the NASA SRB cars are on the DLS (but someone else took the pictures I used to make them, lol).

Ben
 
Well Ben from where you are in Fl, you should be able to take good pics of the shuttle as it launches. I only ever saw one by accident when I was working down there years ago in Orlando.
 
I saw many launches when I was going to school in Daytona, but that was well before I came a photo fanatic. I don't remember seeing SRBs in transit though, even though I lived about two miles from the FEC.
 
You also can't tell the difference between the trains, unless of course it is carrying a blatantly obvious load of say...M1A1s. But if it is carrying stuff that can be housed in a boxcar then you will really have to squint your eyes and hope you catch a look at the running marks, or lack there of.
 
I can watch the shuttle go off from my front porch (tho I am about 100 or so miles south of the cape). During a night launch we know where to look and you can see the glow before the actual shutle comes over the curve in the earth. The really spectactular launch to watch was a Saturn 5. Absolutely unbelievable.

The SRB cars when loaded are effectivly bombs so as you can guess the
schedual is definately a closely guarded secret. They are enclosed (open like a clamshell) so the only way to tell if they are empty or loaded is to look at the bogey springs. If up they are empty - if down they are full (the boosters ain't light, lol). Cars have 4 heavy duty 4-wheel bogies and they run idler cars in between them (or so I've been told).

Come in two flavors (white and yellow, lol).

Ben
 
Nukes are supposed to be transported by rail tho I'd guess it would be a (very) special train. In other words they don't couple a boxcar full of nukes to the end of the local way freight, lol.

Ben
 
bendorsey said:
Nukes are supposed to be transported by rail tho I'd guess it would be a (very) special train. In other words they don't couple a boxcar full of nukes to the end of the local way freight, lol.

Ben
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Why what's wrong with that?! Just send it over the hump with the rest of the cars that get sorted. It will all be fine, don't worry about it.
 
In reality nukes are transported in very special containers. Not certain they would fit into a boxcar unless you could remove the roof to get them in and out. Was a program on the discovery channel about them and the testing they go thru. Can pretty much survive any wreck, fire, explosion, etc except another nuke (and then it wouldn't matter would it)? Probably move as a special train with beaucoup priority.

Think about some of the non-military stuff that is transported by rail. Tankcars full of chlorine, sulfuric acid, etc. Propane tankcars are just as big a bomb as the SRB's

Ben
 
Thbbft!

The Photographer's Right (U.S.) -- The Photographer’s Right is a downloadable guide that is loosely based on the Bust Card and the Know Your Rights pamphlet that used to be available on the ACLU website. It may be downloaded and printed out using Adobe Acrobat Reader. You may make copies and carry them in your wallet, pocket, or camera bag to give you quick access to your rights and obligations concerning confrontations over photography.

Most attempts at restricting photography are done by lower-level security and law enforcement officials acting way beyond their authority. Note that neither the Patriot Act nor the Homeland Security Act have any provisions that restrict photography.
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i dont think you are forbidden to take pictures, but i can see where it would raise questions. for one, you might be up to no good, or any other number of things. to me its best to just let them be. in the end it just makes sense. i wouldn't want to accidentally compromise security or anything so its best to just shut up and stay out of the way. let them go on about their business. no need to take pics and post anywhere or to pass along word that the military train is coming.

its not uncommon around here to see the DODX cars and their strangely shaped containers, sometimes tanks, sometimes APC vehicles which are manufactured close by.

bendorsey, the SRB train has a long way to go, and usually someone squeaks when its coming. word travels a lot faster than that train i can tell you that, so its not surprising to catch word of it coming through. can usually catch KCS handing it off north of here.
 
I don't think there is a good reason to snap some photos of trains at that location,why,it is because of safety reasons!
 
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BNSF Citizens for Rail Security...

:cool: My card says this...
Keeping America's rail transportation network safe from crime and terrorist activity is a high-priority for today's railroad industry.
Citizens for Rail Security (CRS) encourages rail fans to report suspicious activities, trespassers or individuals to BNSF's Resource Operations Command Center.
However, when pursuing your hobby you do not have the right to trespass on railroad property or rights-of-way. It is illegal and dangerous and will be viewed by law enforcement as a criminal offense subject to arrest and prosecution.
  • Do not take photographs of military trains and equipment.
  • Only take photographs or view trains from public locations.
  • When taking photographs from public railroad crossings, stay at least 15 feet away from the nearest rail. This rule applies for staged "photo run-bys" as well.
  • Cooperate fully with railroad police or other law enforcement officers when contacted.
  • If suspicious activities are noted, report it to railroad or local law enforcement officers. DO NOT TAKE ANY FURTHER ACTION!
Thank you for your interest in BNSF.
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Photographing military trains is not against the law, but you can be approached & questioned. I have seen special movements that actually had on board security & a friend was actually approached by a chase car & questioned because he ran along side that particular train, on the highway.

Sensitive movements like this are heavily guarded, because you might say they are sitting ducks for trouble.

I'd take their advice...
 
SRB's are made by Thykol (tho I'm not quite certain where). I do know its a goodly distance from the cape.

With the shuttle program winding down I wonder what will become of the SRB cars themselves. Rather unique I'd say.

Ben
 
I'll take a shot at simplifying this, but it is complicated. Normally taking pictures is no problem, but sometimes it can be.

Let's say I want to invade Taiwan. Before I do, I want to know where all the tanks and heavy artillery are, so I send in spies. Heavy equipment has to be moved by rail, so my spies go to the railyards and take pictures. If the pictures come back showing train loads of tanks and howitzers at Chi-lung, and nothing near Kao-hsiung, then Kao-hsiung would be the best place to invade since it would take the Taiwanese defense forces a long time to move the equipment. So anytime there might be a threat to the security of the nation, the security forces will naturally be suspicious of anyone taking pictures of military equipment or installations.
 
sniper297 said:
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Let's say I want to invade Taiwan. ......snip......
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Please don't invade Taiwan...... Walmart, Kmart,Target,etc. would not have anything to sell.:)

OT.... do not try to take photos in or around an airport. Things could go really bad for you.

Have fun,:)
 
"Please don't invade Taiwan" you never let me have ANY fun. :'( Actually at my age I'd have a hard time invading Minnesota, I'd run out of energy before I reached the border. :hehe:
 
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