What's the verdict with the Steam version of TS2010?
- Thread starter JimDep
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Steam and Amazon are different downlad versions.
i downloaded steam n missling some items, cant reskin
i donno abt amazon version
Steam versions are the same irrespective of where you get it from.
if you going to buy 10 go to teh online shop at auran and let them ship teh disk to you ,,
It would appear that the poster was trying to express the sentiment that if you are going to buy version TS2010, then you should buy it directly from Auran's website. I agree whole heartily with that. Why anyone would willingly subject themselves to the ball and chain of Steam is beyond my understanding. I'm sure someone will trot out the old "they update automatically for you" argument but what if you don't want to be updated? What if you like things just as they are? Too many horror stores in other forums of Steam updating when not wanted and messing up an installation plus everytime the Steam client can't phone home, you are locked out of your own game.
teh tingh is, teh is now an accepted spelling, especially on teh interwebs....
Thanks, Ed. That part I get.
Happy New Year...............Bro
shaneturner12
Tutorial Creator
There is another reason to avoid the Steam version (and any digital download versions off Amazon, GamersGate etc) is that the build they are using is not currently patchable to a later version, and as a result, a lot of the Trainz DLC content will not run on said versions.
Shane
EDIT: I was actually reading on the Steam forum (with a link to somewhere on this forum) that the Steam build is a modified version, which basically means that you may never see a patch for it (unless Auran/N3V and Steam sort the problem out - I think it's mainly at Steam (Valve)'s end)
The best place to buy the digital download version is from Auran/N3V directly. From what I was reading recently, that version is patched as far as SP3 (you will need to install the hotfix seperately)
Shane
EDIT: I was actually reading on the Steam forum (with a link to somewhere on this forum) that the Steam build is a modified version, which basically means that you may never see a patch for it (unless Auran/N3V and Steam sort the problem out - I think it's mainly at Steam (Valve)'s end)
The best place to buy the digital download version is from Auran/N3V directly. From what I was reading recently, that version is patched as far as SP3 (you will need to install the hotfix seperately)
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How retarded.:hehe:teh tingh is, teh is now an accepted spelling, especially on teh interwebs....
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Thanks for the replies so far...
I'm sure it's the best place, but there's a huge price difference. I don't own oil wells like the majority of you.
I pretty much make my own routes and content. Will not having the Auran patches make much difference?
shaneturner12
Tutorial Creator
The only major difference(s) is that you will not be able to run some of the Trainz DLC content, and if any bugs do arise, there are no patches to fall back on.
I personally prefer buying Trainz on DVD myself, at least I know I can patch it then (most of the time)
Shane
I personally prefer buying Trainz on DVD myself, at least I know I can patch it then (most of the time)
Shane
Hey Ed, I got:
Sorry, the page you were looking for cannot be found
subtle eh?
Is this like a virus scan? Whoa, so much to learn
I think this is what he meant:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management
Long story short: Most online stuff, like Steam products, require the software to "phone home" in order to validate itself. This causes numerous performance, reliability and longetivity issues. Performance suffers because you must have an active internet connection (which by itself consumes a lot of resources), not to mention anti-virus, a firewall, etc. This is in addition to the fact that most DRM schemes install an assortment of background processes than hog resources aside from internet. Reliability suffers if either your internet connection or Steam's servers are down. Longetivity is in question because companies can and do go out of business, change DRM schemes, business models, get bought and sold, etc. and any DRMed downloads or products purchased from them will be rendered inoperative, as has happened with many major music services.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management
Long story short: Most online stuff, like Steam products, require the software to "phone home" in order to validate itself. This causes numerous performance, reliability and longetivity issues. Performance suffers because you must have an active internet connection (which by itself consumes a lot of resources), not to mention anti-virus, a firewall, etc. This is in addition to the fact that most DRM schemes install an assortment of background processes than hog resources aside from internet. Reliability suffers if either your internet connection or Steam's servers are down. Longetivity is in question because companies can and do go out of business, change DRM schemes, business models, get bought and sold, etc. and any DRMed downloads or products purchased from them will be rendered inoperative, as has happened with many major music services.
Gandalf0444
FVRR member
Indeed but ultimately STEAM/Valve would have to find a way to release the purchased games to work without phoning home if the company was to go under. Otherwise they would be up to there necks in law suits and criminal charges. You pay for something you are allowed to use it as long as you want to. The same goes here for the now defunct versions of trainz. They cannot access the DLS much if at all but can still be used to there fullest.
But all games I have found I have bought from steam can work without being connected to the internet(only needs to be connected for the first time, which is the case with a lot of products these days anyway, including windows itself unless you want to sit on the phone with someone who barely speaks English then be my guest)
Having downloaded my 2010 version from GamersGate, I am stuck with the same 43361 build as anyone who has bought from Steam. You can't patch it and it does seem to suffer from all the same problems as the disc version before being patched. I contacted Auran and asked if there was an ETA on a patch for the 43361 build and this was Zec's reply:
"At this time, there are no patches for build 43361 (the download edition sold via our US regional publisher). If we release any further updates for TS2010, we will look into an update for build 43361 at this time."
So I'm not holding my breath and with the huge pain in tail that Trainz is to begin with, I'm really wishing that I had bought the normal disc based version. Take my advice and don't download it and eliminate one potential problem.
"At this time, there are no patches for build 43361 (the download edition sold via our US regional publisher). If we release any further updates for TS2010, we will look into an update for build 43361 at this time."
So I'm not holding my breath and with the huge pain in tail that Trainz is to begin with, I'm really wishing that I had bought the normal disc based version. Take my advice and don't download it and eliminate one potential problem.