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Hi,
I did try changing the build down a notch to 1.3, but that made no difference.
Blessings,
Angela
Hi,
I did try changing the build down a notch to 1.3, but that made no difference.
Blessings,
Angela
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Warning: Killing Items
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Thanks
Hello Al,
And thanks for your continuing help. I do so hope the little problem can be resolved, they are very nice assets and congratulations should be extended to denlog (Dennis) for making them.
God bless,
Angela
Hi Angelah !
I'll try to dig a little deeper into it and see what i can come up with.
Unfortunatly i don't have 2004 (YET !):hehe: so i can't try it out.
Talk to You later today.
Kind regards, Al.
Hello Al,
And thanks for your continuing help. I do so hope the little problem can be resolved, they are very nice assets and congratulations should be extended to denlog (Dennis) for making them.
God bless,
Angela
Hello Al,
And thanks for your continuing help. I do so hope the little problem can be resolved, they are very nice assets and congratulations should be extended to denlog (Dennis) for making them.
God bless,
Angela
Hi Angela!
You're welcome! I think the problem is a bit deeper than just a config error. I've tried to make a correct config, but that didn't help anything.
The only way i could make them show (in 2006 and 2009), was to change the build-version to 2.4 or lower. I know this dosn't help You much.
I think You know this : Be carefull when You edit a config file. There are 3 'hidden' caracters in the top line, that needs to be there. I've seen a lot of problems come up, because people have deleted the top 'empty' line.
Another problem can be that people don't use an 'ASCII' editor (like 'notepad'). If 'WordPad' is used, it will add formatting characters to the text, and make the config.txt useless.
My best bet at the moment would be to get hold of Dennis.
Maybe some of the 'hard-core' content creators out there have a usefull tip or hint to explain this problem ????
I can only agree with You 100%! Dennis makes some wonderful things. Have You tried to have a look at his homepage ? I know it's in Russian, but Google translate it well, and makes one able to download his many assets.
Dennis' homepage for those interested : http://denlog.ucoz.ru
Have a nice day,all !
Kind regards, Al.
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Hello wreeder,
when you sit in front of your beloved trainz-map and get a "Fatal Error" you will feel nothing "comical" ("... rather than the almost comical "Warning: Killing Items."...") .
Yes, these items were killing my map, and Angelah's too, and who knows how many other trainzer's maps. Perhaps only the oldfashioned 2004ers, but if you are one, it helps you nothing to guess that other versions perhaps don't have the problem.
And this is the worst case thinkable: It is nearly impossible to find that killer item. When it happened first time to me I never expected a downloaded item could cause that fatal error. I thought that trainz was in some way broken - gladly I read in the forum that a certain ground texter was the killer, deleted it, and could avoid to reinstall Trainz, what I expected to be necessary (and would help nothing).
Yes, the title of the thread has to be dramatical, because what happens is dramatical.
I agree: "This user put a lot of work into these assets...". I did in no way comment on the content creator. But siting in front of your killed trainzmap I wonder how much you would care about his "lot of work into these assets"!
I deleted it with TrainzObjectz: Loaded the map, rightclicked the killers name, "exchanged it with another Kuid", used F8 ("replace it wit an nonexistent kuid - I think it uses kuid 999999). The other simple way, to use Windows Explorer and delete it directly in the filelist did not come in my mind.
jost62
when you sit in front of your beloved trainz-map and get a "Fatal Error" you will feel nothing "comical" ("... rather than the almost comical "Warning: Killing Items."...") .
Yes, these items were killing my map, and Angelah's too, and who knows how many other trainzer's maps. Perhaps only the oldfashioned 2004ers, but if you are one, it helps you nothing to guess that other versions perhaps don't have the problem.
And this is the worst case thinkable: It is nearly impossible to find that killer item. When it happened first time to me I never expected a downloaded item could cause that fatal error. I thought that trainz was in some way broken - gladly I read in the forum that a certain ground texter was the killer, deleted it, and could avoid to reinstall Trainz, what I expected to be necessary (and would help nothing).
Yes, the title of the thread has to be dramatical, because what happens is dramatical.
I agree: "This user put a lot of work into these assets...". I did in no way comment on the content creator. But siting in front of your killed trainzmap I wonder how much you would care about his "lot of work into these assets"!
I deleted it with TrainzObjectz: Loaded the map, rightclicked the killers name, "exchanged it with another Kuid", used F8 ("replace it wit an nonexistent kuid - I think it uses kuid 999999). The other simple way, to use Windows Explorer and delete it directly in the filelist did not come in my mind.
jost62
Had a peek
Dear Al,
Yes, I did go an have a peek and there truly is some really nice gear on there. I didn't actually translate so found it a bit difficult to use, but if Google can do that job then matters will be much easier.
Thank you for your kind help, we all really appreciate it,
Blessings,
Angela
Hi Angela!
You're welcome! I think the problem is a bit deeper than just a config error. I've tried to make a correct config, but that didn't help anything.
The only way i could make them show (in 2006 and 2009), was to change the build-version to 2.4 or lower. I know this dosn't help You much.
I think You know this : Be carefull when You edit a config file. There are 3 'hidden' caracters in the top line, that needs to be there. I've seen a lot of problems come up, because people have deleted the top 'empty' line.
Another problem can be that people don't use an 'ASCII' editor (like 'notepad'). If 'WordPad' is used, it will add formatting characters to the text, and make the config.txt useless.
My best bet at the moment would be to get hold of Dennis.
Maybe some of the 'hard-core' content creators out there have a usefull tip or hint to explain this problem ????
I can only agree with You 100%! Dennis makes some wonderful things. Have You tried to have a look at his homepage ? I know it's in Russian, but Google translate it well, and makes one able to download his many assets.
Dennis' homepage for those interested : http://denlog.ucoz.ru
Have a nice day,all !
Kind regards, Al.
Dear Al,
Yes, I did go an have a peek and there truly is some really nice gear on there. I didn't actually translate so found it a bit difficult to use, but if Google can do that job then matters will be much easier.
Thank you for your kind help, we all really appreciate it,
Blessings,
Angela
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Just a thought....
Just a thought, the fact that the images for all these items are jpg may be the problem
As I said just a thought
Bob V
Just a thought, the fact that the images for all these items are jpg may be the problem
As I said just a thought
Bob V
Certainly
Hi Bob,
yes, I agree, I have made that point. I think they should be tga files.
Angela
Just a thought, the fact that the images for all these items are jpg may be the problem
As I said just a thought
Bob V
Hi Bob,
yes, I agree, I have made that point. I think they should be tga files.
Angela
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Hi Bob,
yes, I agree, I have made that point. I think they should be tga files.
Angela
tga or bmp I believe are acceptable
Bob V
Good morning!
My name trainz666, does not mean angrily, it is number of my car.
The Russian users do not have problems with my additions, all models are tested at many users. All works perfectly.
I consider, that a problem in the out-of-date version of game. I can and be mistaken. The problem with language is present, I can assure you - additions downloaded from all world in our versions sometimes behave similarly. We is simple about it we have no possibility to speak to you.
Yours faithfully Denis!
My name trainz666, does not mean angrily, it is number of my car.
The Russian users do not have problems with my additions, all models are tested at many users. All works perfectly.
I consider, that a problem in the out-of-date version of game. I can and be mistaken. The problem with language is present, I can assure you - additions downloaded from all world in our versions sometimes behave similarly. We is simple about it we have no possibility to speak to you.
Yours faithfully Denis!
Good morning!
My name trainz666, does not mean angrily, it is number of my car.
The Russian users do not have problems with my additions, all models are tested at many users. All works perfectly.
I consider, that a problem in the out-of-date version of game. I can and be mistaken. The problem with language is present, I can assure you - additions downloaded from all world in our versions sometimes behave similarly. We is simple about it we have no possibility to speak to you.
Yours faithfully Denis!
Hi Denis !
Thank You for responding.
You say You have same problem when You download from outside of Russia ?
Maybe there is different version of trainz in Russia and Europe ???
What version of Trainz and what Build no. do You use, when making assets ?
You make some beautiful assets, my friend. We just must find a way to make them work here in Europe.
Kind regards from Allan in Denmark.
Hi!Hi Denis !
Thank You for responding.
You say You have same problem when You download from outside of Russia ?
Maybe there is different version of trainz in Russia and Europe ???
What version of Trainz and what Build no. do You use, when making assets ?
You make some beautiful assets, my friend. We just must find a way to make them work here in Europe.
Kind regards from Allan in Denmark.
At me the official version of game from Auran 2009. As all works on versions 2008 and 2006 sp1
Excuse, at me a problem with English language.
Hi!
At me the official version of game from Auran 2009. As all works on versions 2008 and 2006 sp1
Excuse, at me a problem with English language.
Hi Denis !
Your English is fine (Better than my Russian :hehe: )
I think i know the problem !
You use TS2009 to make asset ? In config.txt the build is 1.3(UTC) 2.4(TRS2004) and 2.5(TRS2006 NON SP1)
When we try to use in TRS2004 it crash computer.
In my TRS2006 SP1, those with build 2.5 do not work, until change to build 2.4.
Allan.
first : thanks trainz666 for your answer .
I have done a quick test ; i have rebuild the d sclad 3 shed. I have used the same map , the same cfg file and the same asset name ;
it works perfect.
Now , when i look at both im files ( with an hex-editor ) , there is a difference . The name of the asset, d sclad 3, is not in the original file , but is in mine . So , the question is : are we using different exporters ?
the IndexedMeshExport.dll that i use is dated 28/2/2002 ( part of the Trainz Asset Creation Studio )
I have done a quick test ; i have rebuild the d sclad 3 shed. I have used the same map , the same cfg file and the same asset name ;
it works perfect.
Now , when i look at both im files ( with an hex-editor ) , there is a difference . The name of the asset, d sclad 3, is not in the original file , but is in mine . So , the question is : are we using different exporters ?
the IndexedMeshExport.dll that i use is dated 28/2/2002 ( part of the Trainz Asset Creation Studio )
first : thanks trainz666 for your answer .
I have done a quick test ; i have rebuild the d sclad 3 shed. I have used the same map , the same cfg file and the same asset name ;
it works perfect.
Now , when i look at both im files ( with an hex-editor ) , there is a difference . The name of the asset, d sclad 3, is not in the original file , but is in mine . So , the question is : are we using different exporters ?
the IndexedMeshExport.dll that i use is dated 28/2/2002 ( part of the Trainz Asset Creation Studio )
Hi Mark,
The difference may be with the Russian Cryllic charcacters being replaced by the "_".
TRS2004 may also have trouble loading compressed textures such as jpeg files. I'm not sure about this since I haven't used TRS2004 in about two years now, and no longer have it installed on my PC.
John
No angry
Hello Dennis,
We all know your name is not meant angrily, it was a tongue-in-cheek joke on our part because some users here were getting too serious.
I am not a creator so must rely on other people to sort out what may be simple problems that prevent us from using your lovely assets.
I did not think assets made for 2009 can be used in 2004?
And there may be some differences between our European keyboards to Russian ones in what keys type what letter or number?
I would love for to get your really super content to work in 04 so I hope you can help.
God bless you,
Angela
Good morning!
My name trainz666, does not mean angrily, it is number of my car.
The Russian users do not have problems with my additions, all models are tested at many users. All works perfectly.
I consider, that a problem in the out-of-date version of game. I can and be mistaken. The problem with language is present, I can assure you - additions downloaded from all world in our versions sometimes behave similarly. We is simple about it we have no possibility to speak to you.
Yours faithfully Denis!
Hello Dennis,
We all know your name is not meant angrily, it was a tongue-in-cheek joke on our part because some users here were getting too serious.
I am not a creator so must rely on other people to sort out what may be simple problems that prevent us from using your lovely assets.
I did not think assets made for 2009 can be used in 2004?
And there may be some differences between our European keyboards to Russian ones in what keys type what letter or number?
I would love for to get your really super content to work in 04 so I hope you can help.
God bless you,
Angela
yes, in the begin i thought that the russian characters could be the problem .
That what we see as a _ or a space , was originaly something else.
The compressed textures are not the problem ; i have used the same textures for my test. Everything works perfect and all is the same , except for the im file.
I have 2004 and 2006 . I am wondering if 2009 has a separate exporter ( separate asset creation studio ) , not the original one from 2002.
That what we see as a _ or a space , was originaly something else.
The compressed textures are not the problem ; i have used the same textures for my test. Everything works perfect and all is the same , except for the im file.
I have 2004 and 2006 . I am wondering if 2009 has a separate exporter ( separate asset creation studio ) , not the original one from 2002.
Hello Denis,
I started this thread. It was not meant to criticize you. Your content is beautiful - that is the reason why I downloaded it. And I wished you can make it available for all users and avoid that it causes a "Fatal error" terminating the program.
.jpg can not be the problem, as markbin said. I also guess that the problem are Russian characters used for the .im file.
It would be great if you (or someone else) will find the reason.
Friendly
jost62
I started this thread. It was not meant to criticize you. Your content is beautiful - that is the reason why I downloaded it. And I wished you can make it available for all users and avoid that it causes a "Fatal error" terminating the program.
.jpg can not be the problem, as markbin said. I also guess that the problem are Russian characters used for the .im file.
It would be great if you (or someone else) will find the reason.
Friendly
jost62
I will answer on points:
1. I use 3Dmax 7 for manufacturing of models.
2. I use this exporter http://rapidshare.com/files/213086815/JetExporter.dle.html I do not know where to take older?
3. I have packed all models in cmp2 Trainz 2009.
4. I put version 2.4 in a configuration.
5. I cannot tell anything about work in Trainz 2004, it is not present at me, and is not present at the majority in Russia.
6. I cannot найдти an error problem in 2004, and I advise not to use my models in 2004, I regret.
7. At us not only different keyboards, but also different Operating systems, the problem in it can.
8. We with friends search for the reason.
9. I ask you to give to me the exporter of 2002 for 3Dmax 7
Denis.
Отвечу по пунктам:
1. Я использую 3Dmax 7 для изготовления моделей.
2. Я пользуюсь этим экспортёром http://rapidshare.com/files/213086815/JetExporter.dle.html не знаю где взять более старый?
3. Я запаковал все модели в cmp2 Trainz 2009.
4. Я ставлю версию 2.4 в конфигурации.
5. Я не могу ничего сказать о работе в Trainz 2004, её нет у меня, и нет у большинства в России.
6. Я не могу найдти проблему ошибки в 2004, и советую не использовать мои модели в 2004, сожалею.
7. У нас не только разные клавиатуры, но и разные Операционные системы, может проблема в этом.
8. Мы с друзьями ищем причину.
9. Прошу вас предоставить мне экспортёр 2002 года для 3Dmax 7
С уважением Денис.
1. I use 3Dmax 7 for manufacturing of models.
2. I use this exporter http://rapidshare.com/files/213086815/JetExporter.dle.html I do not know where to take older?
3. I have packed all models in cmp2 Trainz 2009.
4. I put version 2.4 in a configuration.
5. I cannot tell anything about work in Trainz 2004, it is not present at me, and is not present at the majority in Russia.
6. I cannot найдти an error problem in 2004, and I advise not to use my models in 2004, I regret.
7. At us not only different keyboards, but also different Operating systems, the problem in it can.
8. We with friends search for the reason.
9. I ask you to give to me the exporter of 2002 for 3Dmax 7
Denis.
Отвечу по пунктам:
1. Я использую 3Dmax 7 для изготовления моделей.
2. Я пользуюсь этим экспортёром http://rapidshare.com/files/213086815/JetExporter.dle.html не знаю где взять более старый?
3. Я запаковал все модели в cmp2 Trainz 2009.
4. Я ставлю версию 2.4 в конфигурации.
5. Я не могу ничего сказать о работе в Trainz 2004, её нет у меня, и нет у большинства в России.
6. Я не могу найдти проблему ошибки в 2004, и советую не использовать мои модели в 2004, сожалею.
7. У нас не только разные клавиатуры, но и разные Операционные системы, может проблема в этом.
8. Мы с друзьями ищем причину.
9. Прошу вас предоставить мне экспортёр 2002 года для 3Dmax 7
С уважением Денис.
Hi ,
I see that you use a recent exporter.
The problem is that the old exporter works only upto 3dmax5 .
You can find it here :
http://www.worldoftrainz.com/Pages/Tutorials.htm#TRS2006
I use gmax , so i can use that old stuff .
If you dont have an older version of 3dmax, the only solution will be to export the models with gmax.
I see that you use a recent exporter.
The problem is that the old exporter works only upto 3dmax5 .
You can find it here :
http://www.worldoftrainz.com/Pages/Tutorials.htm#TRS2006
I use gmax , so i can use that old stuff .
If you dont have an older version of 3dmax, the only solution will be to export the models with gmax.
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