Utah Belt RR - What happened to it?

[nathanmallard]

The Utah Belt seems to be a popular modelling subject in both actual and virtual form, but why can I not find any pictures of the real thing? Has it been merged? Was any rolling stock actually painted in the gray-and-yellow scheme? And where would the actual route be? Sorry about all the questions here, but I can find next to nothing on the Internet, which is quite strange and just intrigued me further.

 

[opus722]

It is hard to find on the internet. It mostly appears in modeling magazines since Eric Brooman, the creator, doesn't have an official website or anything. Some of these have been scanned online, but the vast majority exist only in print form. Some pictures of the rolling stock can be found on ebay where Mr. Brooman occasionally sells off models he is retiring in prototypical faction.The original layout is in the Utah/New Mexico region, but I'm not really familiar enough to know if there are specific cities in there.

 

[JohnnyC1]

The UB is a fictional RR!


John

 

[trainboy99]

It's completely fictional. I don't know why people like it so much, seeing as its fictional and such.

 

[boyerm25]

It is a fictional railroad that has become very popular to the the amazing layout made by Eric Brooman.

 

[jhuravitch]

You might want to check out Model Railroader's website for pictures and layout diagrams of Eric Brooman's layout. It has been featured in the magazine many times. http://www.modelrailroader.com/

 

[quakers1]

Not only is the UB fictional, it's one of the best freelance layouts (if not one of the best overall layouts) ever built in my opinion!

 

[pdkoester]

yes, it is a FICTIONAL LAYOUT, not exactly what have a simulator for........ :n:

 

[frogpipe]

Ummm

http://tinyurl.com/mpycvlg

 

[boyerm25]

Well it IS fictional, whatever that link you posted says (tinyurl doesn't work for me, as https sites don't work on my computer)

 

[pdkoester]

All that is model railroad stuff, I don't want to really use my simulator to model a model... :hehe:

 

[nathanmallard]

Right, I get it. Eric Brooman's layout looks stunning. But do JR and RRMods actually have his permission to sell UB models on their website, presumably without any profit going to him?

 

[frogpipe]

That's a horse of another color.

 

[JohnnyC1]

Right, I get it. Eric Brooman's layout looks stunning. But do JR and RRMods actually have his permission to sell UB models on their website, presumably without any profit going to him?

And you you know this because?

John

 

[pdkoester]

Right, I get it. Eric Brooman's layout looks stunning. But do JR and RRMods actually have his permission to sell UB models on their website, presumably without any profit going to him?

 

[nicky9499]

Haha, this is funny. Up until now I always thought UB was a real RR, like Cotton Belt.

 

[pdkoester]

Haha, this is funny. Up until now I always thought UB was a real RR, like Cotton Belt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis_Southwestern_Railway

for reference... I think you will not find that for Utah Belt.

 

[norfolksouthern37]

pdkoester: why would the simulator be an inappropriate place for a fictional railroad? i do not follow this logic. trainz is all about having fun whether what you are simulating is real life or not.

the Utah belt is a very well thought out model railroad, and as such drew my attention for including in trainz immediately. that, along with the practical paint scheme and the full lighting packages on the locomotives.

to answer the original post. here is a map of the line from Jun 1984 MR article.

there is a great deal of reference for it in many articles over the years.

 

[pdkoester]

pdkoester: why would the simulator be an inappropriate place for a fictional railroad? i do not follow this logic. trainz is all about having fun whether what you are simulating is real life or not.

It is not an inappropriate place, that is obvious. I have more praise for things like Noob Mountain or Dragon Valley railroads, created for Trainz, not a copy of someone's creation in a model railroad. It is that simple. I was making a point that there is nothing for Utah Belt, no prototypes other than someone else's models. At least with Noob Mountain or Dragon Valley some folks got creative, and made something entirely from scratch, even though those are fictional, but more effort is put into those two.

The other thing is, I am just more for the prototypical items. That is on me, sorry if that is looked down upon. Of course, you can do what you like with the simulator.

Paul

 

[norfolksouthern37]

yes i disagree entirely with your perspective.

I was making a point that there is nothing for Utah Belt, no prototypes other than someone else's models.

you must understand that just because it is a model does not mean it makes a bad prototype for trainz. it isnt really a copy of someone's creation any more than making something for trainz that is a copy of the real world. the same thing applies, as well as the work that goes into it. just because the real world prototype is smaller in scale does not make it any less of a challenge. to me this no different than any other fictional line except that someone else (Mr. Brooman) has defined the scope.