Using the Lat/long Reader

martinvk

since 10 Aug 2002
Some people have asked how to use the Lat/Long Reader 70337:23016 so instead of answering each one individually, I thought I would create a howto message so everyone could benefit.

The Lat/Long Reader was created to be able to locate objects in a map. The built-in Trig Station does the same thing but I found the coordinate values too small to easily read. Since the Lat/Long Reader is a Surveyor only object, I could make the text much bigger. As well as bigger text, because they are Surveyor only, I can place and leave many of them all over the map to locate points of interest.

Note that the coordinate system in a Trainz map is not an exact match to real world latitude and longitude values. If you measure the linear distance between two points on the Earth and the same points in a Trainz map you will have a small but noticeable difference that inceases the further away you are from the World Origin. I find the convenience of being able to directly place objects based on Google Earth coordinates outweighs the small error. Whether you can live with it too is your call.

That being said, let's start with a new map.
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First you need to place a World Origin
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Next enter the World Origin Coordinates using the values of the area you wand to model
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When you can place a Lat/Long Reader, it indicates the coordinates of it's position in the upper text field. The lower text field shows "name" by default
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Here we enter the coordinate values in the Properties box. If ever the Lat/Long Reader is accidentally moved you can quickly return it to it's correct place.
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A finished Lat/Long Reader
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A second Lat/Long Reader, 0.010' south and 0.010' west of the first.
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The coordinate values cover an area and are not an exact point at this resolution. Note that both show the same value.
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This is a close up of the distance you can move a Lat/Long Reader before the display values change so don't worry too much about getting it exactly right to the millimeter.
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I hope this has helped you understand how to use the Lat/Long Reader. Like most of my objects, it grew out of a need in my route making. Hope you too find it useful.
 
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That's fantastic Martin. Always wanted to use a tool like that. Great pity the altitude setting does not work as well.

Cheers,
Bill69
 
I did!

I did, I think I already have it - (their that's more than 10 characters)Just checked, and I don't seem to have it - but I remember using it a while ago. I remember that pointy bit.

Your latest KUID says it XXX:10, so how have you improved it, if it need any improving?
 
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Now that is odd, I can only find it via ignoring the :10, and clicking on newer version available option. That way it comes up.

Edit: CM2010 says can't find yet, so I suppose it's in zee process of uploading.
 
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The Download Station (words used loosely!) says the size is 70.88 kb, but when it eventually in CM2010, it gives a size of 0 bytes, and unable to download, yet 8 people so far have been able to download it.

Edit: I had to use the FTP option.
Edit: I had Trainz opened in Surveyor forgetting to close it, and it seems you can add items while in surveyor.
 
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The Download Station (words used loosely!) says the size is 70.88 kb, but when it eventually in CM2010, it gives a size of 0 bytes, and unable to download, yet 8 people so far have been able to download it.

Edit: I had to use the FTP option.
Edit: I had Trainz opened in Surveyor forgetting to close it, and it seems you can add items while in surveyor.


Hi,

I downloaded the Lat/Long reader late last night, well it might have been early this morning NZ time. It downloaded with one error "blue.tga not found for blue.tga texture.txt" I deleted the blue.tga texture.txt file and left it to work with the blueblack.tga file and it now has no errors. I have spent most of my trainz time today checking a prototypical route I have been working on for some time and find quite a few key points are out by varying amounts, the main problem being my starting point, although in the right place, is not aligned to the correct angle. This is in TS2009 so I am tempted to start again in TS2010 and get things in the right place. It's a great tool for prototypical routes Martin, thanks once again.

Cheers,
Bill69
 
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Now where do you suppose the reference to blue.tga came from?

I looked in the edit folder and only saw this
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In GMax materials, there is only one
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Are you sure you downloaded version 10?
 
Hi Martin,

Yes it was the earlier version I downloaded as I was working in TS2009 and your version 10 is only for TS2010.

Cheers,
Bill69
 
Hi Martin,

I just installed your updated version of the Lat/Long reader and it no longer shows in large yellow writing the Lat/Long figures that you can see at a distance.

I use this tool a lot and it has been invaluable over the years. Being able to move it around to find a location after I have placed the World Origin Marker and see the figures very easily is a huge part of this tool.

Currently not being able to see these figures makes this update unusable for my purposes and may be many others.

I am going back to the previous version for now.

Craig
:):):)
 
I had removed the large repeats because too often when I had several Readers close to each other, they would interfere and mutually obscure.

There might be a way to turn that on or off in a script but I'm far from there. This was a simple solution to a big problem I was having. Your best bet now is to use an older version. :)
 
Hello Martinvk, thank you for your support and help to all of us. I do however want to ask a question and that is, are these lat-long features able to carry the the ability to interpret typing of a co-ordinate and automatically move it into place?

I am hoping that you can just type the co-ordinates into a property box and then the object instantly moves to the co-ordinates that the user specifies in a property box.

Also, is there anyway where we can have the co-ordinates decimal places expand from 3 decimal units to 5?

Thank you for your help.
 
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