UK crossing signs

[privite]

Hi everyone,

heres a range of signs showing the distance to a crossing. that im making. im going to make them in 15m high version (in screenshots), 25m, no pole version and maybe some higher ones as well, going to see how there go first . i dont think anyone has made there before, so hopefully its something new to add. hope everyone likes them...

Edit:

Forgot to mention, they will all go from 25 yds - 200 yds

cheers,
tom

 

[pfx]

They're good signs but if they're based on the prototype, I'm pretty sure the warning triangle is the wrong way up.

Check this out.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consu...n/@motor/documents/digitalasset/dg_191922.pdf

 

[privite]

Ah, ye, thats quite a big thing to miss :hehe: !!!! i will fix this now...

thanks pfx

 

[ray_whiley]

Do you really mean 15 and 25 metres high? They need to be easily seen by car drivers, yet high enough for pedestrians not to bump their heads when walking nearby. I would respectfully suggest that 8 feet clearance to the bottom of the sign would be more appropriate.

Trying to be helpful!

Ray

By the way, posts should be black and white stripes. There's a lot of information here, but nothing on post height that I could find -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_the_United_Kingdom

 

[paulzmay]

I think the black and white poles are not that common, as far as I recall. The official standards are all on the web: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2002/3113/contents/made

By rights, the corners of all UK road signs should be rounded, the plate should have a black border, and the font should be transport medium...

Paul

 

[angelah]

Simple solution

The simplest solution is to go and look at one, preferably with a tape measure, then you will get it spot on.

But a good attempt so keep up the good work.

Angela

 

[ray_whiley]

Paul - I may have been thinking of times past. It might have been a wartime measure for during the blackout. Perhaps it all depends on the era one wishes to model. I accept that modern posts are not striped.

For anyone wanting black and white stripes for earlier days, I'll cite the instructions from a pack of 'vintage' Tiny Signs road signs which I have never made up (and no longer need really except for reference as my 'physical' modelling days are over!)

'The rear faces of all signs should be painted matt black. Posts should be painted with alternate black and white bands one foot wide with black at the top. The posts should be of such a length that the top of the post is no more than eight feet above the road surface. More than one sign may be mounted on a single post but where signs of different widths are used the narrower ones should be at the top with the wider ones below and a longer-than-standard post will be required.'

Incidentally, the reason I kept this pack when I switched to Trainz was with a view to making replicas for a steam age layout.

Ray

 

[paulzmay]

Yes, the signs you describe are definitely pre- 1964, when UK road signaled changed wholesale to what OS basically the system used today.

Paul

 

[ray_whiley]

Paul - thank you - in fact pre-1964 is the era I'm interested in which explains why I 'rushed in' and made the first comment. If I go ahead with any road signs (eventually) they will be pre-1964 - unless someone has already done all of them - I must check. They would go nicely with the recent 'bus kits.

Ray

 

[sterrett]

Post 1964, the backs of the signs were mostly painted a shade of "dove grey", as were the posts.

The protocol for road signs right across Europe is:

Right Way Up Triangle - Warning

Wrong Way Up Triangle Warning with Instruction - (eg "Give Way") May also be blank to warn of a sign ahead (eg with small rectangular plate "Stop 50 yds")

Circle - Instruction or Command (eg "No Entry", "No Motor Vehicles", "Buses Taxis and Motorcycles Only" etc)

"Stop" signs were originally circular, but replaced by an octagon in the early 1970's.

 

[ColPrice2002]

Hi,
If I remember correctly, the pre-70s crossing signs were rectangular.
Tall and thin, with a picture of a train (steam loco) for an unguarded crossing, picture of a gate for a crossing with barriers.

On the top of the sign was a red triangle (pointing up).
The posts were black & white strips -just like the zebra crosIsing posts.

See if you can find an old copy of the Highway code - all the signs were illustrated.

Regards,

Colin

 

[ray_whiley]

Colin - your information confirmed from illustrations I have. Many other signs were also rectangular - in fact I have not found any of any other shape. I may have a go at some.

Ray

 

[privite]

Sorry!!

BUMP (sorry)

Hi everyone,

sorry its really late (i completely forgot about these and i've been busy), but i've completed them (finally:hehe: ).

heres my thread for my uk content, including these:

http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=84933

Cheers and hope you like them!