Type-G Signals

[RRSignal]

Is this signal type available? I have included a pic below. I have not seen it on the DLS. I understand it is sometimes called an "NYC" signal (for the railroad that used them), but I did not find it searching under that term either.

Also, does anyone know what would be entailed if I were to build a signal myself? I ask because I intend to build a route which has some variants on this basic design, as in the second photo. Thanks!

Post-mounted version:

Bridge-mounted version:

 

[sd90mac-h]

nec signals

Trainz Commuter Rail has some as NEC Target Style Signals that are gantry and wayside. http://trainzcommuterrail.co.cc/pages/dl_misc is the link but u have to register. If open up Content Manager and use the search, put the left side in name then in the right type in "nyc-brkt". These are all gantry signals and are the ones your looking for. Good luck

 

[RRSignal]

Thanks. The post-mounted versions look like they will work. The gantry-mounted ones won't though. There are actually a lot of problems with Trainz in that the basic implementation of U.S. signals is not really correct; there is no way* to properly implement NORAC or AAR signals with the built-in signals. For instance, there is no Approach Medium aspect in advance of a diverging home signal or an approach signal. I would like to build not only my own signal objects but control display aspects. I'm guessing there is some way to do it because Trains allows one to make position-light and other signals, and that it's script-based.

But, of course, any info is helpful.

*Based on my limited knowledge. I'm gathering the brain-stuff prior to diving into route-building.

 

[GrahamSea]

Stay tuned!

 

[sd90mac-h]

Oh those rules!

Those Norac signals in my personal opinion are too much though i understand that it cost alot of money for NS and CSX to simply all those old CR, NYC, PRR etc. but N&W signals are simple. I like east coast railroads better but the simplest signals are on the UP and BNSF(personal experience). Only signals on trainz that I found that gives you an advance warning of crossover movement were some GRS C&NW type signals. They are under G.C.O.R rules so they aren't what you are looking for but the person that created them actually has it when u can set up your signals in the way of how the switch at the control point is thrown so if u are crossinging over, the approach to the crossover would be an Approach Diverging(yellow over yellow) if the home signal was an Diverging Approach or Clear. Theres even an setup for Restricing(Lunar). Was using them on a route I started that I won't say because it may stir up something. 15 miles of it was done when I realized I while I was building east the compass said I was goin west and that won't work right with the map. Now my 06 won't upload custom content so I went to 09 but I don't think alot of people are happy with 09 so I'm going to wait and hope I can get 06 back working. My computer dosen't like 09! I would say just try out those C&NW signals to see if they give you some ideas.

 

[RRSignal]

I'll try them but I am looking for absolute detail as far as signals go. I really want to create the most accurate route as possible. Accurate signals play a vital role in this route and would have to be fully NORAC-compliant. Especially so since there are a few places where they would have to display fairly obscure indications (medium approach medium, etc.)

I'm waiting to hear more of what GrahamSea has in store. Otherwise, the more and more I think about it, I may just have just make my own signals and the appropriate scripts. But I would have to figure out how to do that.

 

[sd90mac-h]

Got Ya. Certain signals don't look right on routes you know they don't belong on. Just hope you can gain some ideas on scripts and features that were offered with the signal. Also they came in a pack on download helper and they were for 04 so you have to check in 04 and type in "signal grs" and search by title. In the pack is the script to make the signals work right.

 

[GrahamSea]

Please stay tuned. BTW: I did the artwork for the C&NW GRS.

 

[ldowns]

Please stay tuned. BTW: I did the artwork for the C&NW GRS.

I don't suppose there's any hope of getting the C&NW signals updated for TR2009 or higher? Would love to use these but they haven't worked since TRS2006.

--Lamont

 

[GrahamSea]

What will be, will be.

 

[sd90mac-h]

They worked fine for me in 06 and 09.

 

[RRSignal]

@GrahamSea

Any updates? Anything I can help with?

 

[Approach_Medium]

I've been using the "Safetran" signals by Norfolksouthern37. They are the most accurate I have found, and I do believe they will display such indications as Approach Medium, Limited Clear, Advance Approach, etc.
These might be the ones you are already discussing; not sure.
These are all scripted.

From what I have seen, TS does allow more aspects than are normally found in most signals. You have to create the scripts to take advantage of the extended rules.

FW

 

[djt]

Those Norac signals in my personal opinion are too much though i understand that it cost alot of money for NS and CSX to simply all those old CR, NYC, PRR etc. but N&W signals are simple.

Neither NS or CSXT operate former Conrail territory are under NORAC operating rules anymore so I'm not sure what you mean by “NORAC signals”.


NORAC operating rules just like CSXT operating rules use what is considered “Speed Signaling”.

I like east coast railroads better but the simplest signals are on the UP and BNSF(personal experience).

BNSF and UP are both using “modified” GCOR operating rules and some of the new signal indications that I've seen in BNSF and UP's rule book have more in common with “speed signaling” not “ route/directional signaling”.


As an example of how easy it is to go from NORAC to GCOR just take a look at what CP Rail did with the D&H. They have converted a railroad that operated under NORAC rules (speed signals) to GCOR (route/directional signaling) without much trouble.