Transfering Trainz 2019 from C drive to a new D drive...simple instructions?
- Thread starter grizz
- Start date
blueodessey
Well-known member
https://online.ts2009.com/mediaWiki/index.php/Help:Moving_Content
Copy\Move\Archive your Local Data Folder
- Open "Launcher > Trainz Settings > Install tab".
- Note the path displayed in the "Local Data Folder" field (this is your current data directory where your user content resides).
- Recommended...
- Highlight and Copy this path to Notepad.
- Verify all other tabs contain the settings you want, including your authentication credentials.
- Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the current data folder (you may paste the path from step 1 to open directly).
- Open a second instance of Windows Explorer and create a new empty folder at the desired location (e.g. D:\TANE_Content)
- Highlight and Copy this new path to your clipboard
- Paste this new path into the "Local Data Folder" field
- Close the Settings dialog
- ...there will be a prompt telling you about restarting, acknowledge it.
- ...close the Launcher
- Focus on the first instance of Windows Explorer, copy all files\folders here into the new folder (the 2nd instance of Explorer).
- i.e. folders like backup, cache, etc plus assets.tdx and keystore.tdx.
- Start the launcher
- If you're watching the new directory in Explorer you'll see some changes occur (files added).
- OPTIONAL - Access "Trainz Settings".
- All settings verified in step 1 should be present on all tabs.
- Click "Start Trainz"
- Application will launch as expected.
- If content is missing, or if a database repair commences, or you're prompted to login, you have made a mistake and will need to re-check the settings above.
Benefits of this process...
- Provides a method for you to create data directories using naming conventions easily tracked by humans (as opposed to the machine name Trainz generates for its folders)
- Allows you to move content between builds and patches without resorting to CDP export\import.
- Allows you to work independently from your "source content" making changes without risk and...,
- Point back to your old folder anytime you need a reference or to check "how it worked" before you started modifying content.
- Creates a backup of the "old" content folder and optionally archive\delete the old folder to free up space.
WARNING:
- DO NOT ever delete the C:\Users\<pc name>\AppData\Local\N3V Games\TANE folder OR the userdata-redirect-map.txt file in that folder.
- This file is required by TANE to ensure the Local Data Folder is found.
- If the redirect file does not exist, TANE will create a new one and create a new local data folder in the default location and you are back to your starting point.
TROUBLESHOOTING:
- If a new unused /build xxxxxxxx folder is created in the default location upon restarting, you have not followed the steps correctly - please review the steps again.
- If you are asked to enter your username again, you have not followed the steps correctly - please review the steps again.
Sometimes your Local Data Folder can end up with corrupt data. In this case, the solution is to create a new folder which contains no 3rd party content. From there, you can then IMPORT your old content and work out which items may be causing issues.
- Open the Launcher > Trainz Settings > Install (tab).
- ...see the "Local Data Folder" field, this is the path for your game data.
- ...the default path is C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\N3V Games\<version>\build folder
- The default build folder uses an alphanumeric system generated name. The next steps are important to make sure you are looking at the correct folder if you have more than one
- Highlight the full path and use CTRL+C to copy it.
- Open Windows Explorer and paste (CTRL+V) the path into the Explorer address dropdown (usually opens to "this PC")
- Key-press <Enter>.
- You are now in your games current data directory.
- Navigate up one directory level (you can use the little "up arrow" on the left of of the address dropdown)
- Create a new folder and give it a name
- Now double-click into this new folder (it will be empty), and copy the path just like you did in the above step #2.
- Now go back to Launcher > Trainz Settings > Install tab, paste the new path, replacing the current path, in the "Local Data Folder" field
- Close the Trainz Settings form (a message will appear saying the game needs a restart, click OK, then close the Launcher too)
- Restart the game. A few things will happen
- ...(if TRS19), you'll see the "Trainz Performance Configuration" dialog. you can select an option or click "Skip..." on the lower right.
- ...in Explorer you'll see the folder get populated with some new sub-folders and files.
- ...you'll need to provide your user name\password in Trainz Settings > Internet (tab)
- Click Start Trainz and complete the database build. Now your game is pointing to a "clean data directory".
- This process does not copy any of your local content across, this mirrors a first time installation with built-in content only. You may hear this referred to as "baseline".
- This is applicable to TANE & TRS19 (minus the performance config), and may be used to easily swap between testing & working folders.
Additional Info: Importing Content
Last edited:
Thanks for your help. Grizz.
stagecoach
75377
Simple, locate the build folder in the Trainz setting install window and copy it, and paste into your new location. In Trainz setting install redirect the path to the new location and do a DBR. If all works go back to the original location and delete the build folder you just copied.
Gary_Evans
Still plays with Trainz
I too am losing memory on C and have spent several hours trying to follow the instructions given above.
I have managed to copy the path to my current data directory but when trying to open Windows Explorer as instructed, I am directed to File Explorer and when I open that I find a page with recent folders and frequent folders but am unable to locate a current data folder. I am old and stupid so can somebody help me, please.
I have managed to copy the path to my current data directory but when trying to open Windows Explorer as instructed, I am directed to File Explorer and when I open that I find a page with recent folders and frequent folders but am unable to locate a current data folder. I am old and stupid so can somebody help me, please.
It's not you Gary, it is all of us with Windows nowadays. I spent 30+ years in IT, all the way from CP/M and DOS, mainframes, Unix and Linux, up to the latest Windows servers, and I still have to look up how to do everything on my home computer! When you open file explorer, you should get a listing down the left edge. It will have things like Desktop, Downloads, Documents, Pictures, etc. near the top, but if you scroll down, it will list your drives in letter order. You can click on any drive and explore the files and folders on it. It will also have "This PC". If you click on that, it will list your drives on the main part of the window and show you how full they are, and you can explore them from there. If you want two drives in separate windows, just right-click one and choose "Open in a new window". Then you can put them side by side for copying.
P.S. If you currently have the default data folder, it is at C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Local\N3V Games. The tricky part HERE is that "AppData" folder is probably hidden so you will have to un-hide it by going to Start-Control Panel-File Explorer Options-View tab and checking "Show hidden files folders and drives.
P.S. If you currently have the default data folder, it is at C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Local\N3V Games. The tricky part HERE is that "AppData" folder is probably hidden so you will have to un-hide it by going to Start-Control Panel-File Explorer Options-View tab and checking "Show hidden files folders and drives.
Last edited:
Gary_Evans
Still plays with Trainz
Thanks Forester. I'll start working on your suggestions and hope I can make the changes. I really appreciate the quick response.
If you do move your data folder to another hard drive, I highly recommend renaming the folder something else besides the default build-something. I renamed my build-folder to TRS2019_DATA so I know exactly what that folder is to ensure I don't delete the folder and contents in error. This will also ensure that the folder is always the same no matter where you place the folder should you ever upgrade the computer or add in another hard disk because you'll always have your TRS2019_DATA folder no matter what.
tonyfrancis
Member
Not been mentioned
excelent advice. but dont forget to change the data file location in the trans 'Settings' menu under 'install.
excelent advice. but dont forget to change the data file location in the trans 'Settings' menu under 'install.
Gary_Evans
Still plays with Trainz
Forester and John sorry I didn't respond earlier but I have been busy trying to restore my Trainz progam. Somehow I managed to crash the program so I could no longer open the routes and run the sessions. I tried using a clean install but can't even get the installer to function right. All I managed to do was reduce the memory to less than 1GB. I did get the memory back to 35GB by uninstalling the installer and the TRS19 program but a second clean install also failed to work. Looks like I'm in store for a new disc unless somebody has suggestions as to how to reinstate my Trainz 19 program.
No worries on getting back.
This sounds like your disk is failing. In File Explorer, right-click on your drive and open the properties and choose tools. Click on Check and follow the screen prompts. For a system disk, the system will restart and run check disk on restart.
Hopefully there's nothing wrong, but in the even there is, back up any and everything you can.
stagecoach
75377
C:\Users\*****\AppData\Local\N3V Games\trs19\build pr43xdlu1.
***** = your computer name, not the default or public folders. If ***** is faded out right-click on it and select properties and untick hidden. All you need do then is copy the build folder to another drive. Once copied to another drive open Trainz settings/install and set the path to the new location, and do a DBR. If all is working ok you can delete the build folder on your C drive.
***** = your computer name, not the default or public folders. If ***** is faded out right-click on it and select properties and untick hidden. All you need do then is copy the build folder to another drive. Once copied to another drive open Trainz settings/install and set the path to the new location, and do a DBR. If all is working ok you can delete the build folder on your C drive.
Gary_Evans
Still plays with Trainz
Thanks John and stagecoach. I seem to have things running again but am still low on memory. Will probably go to a internal drive with more memory.
Gary
Gary
Gary_Evans - Yup - there's no better way to play Trainz than having each installation reside on its own 500Gb (or greater) internal SSD - giving each a lot of room for the UserData folder to grow in size and for maximum I/O performance.
On my PC, Trainz + and TRS19-Platinum are on separate 1Tb SSDs, whilst T:ANE and TRS12 share another 500Gb SSD as they both have smaller on-disk footprints and are unlikely to grow further in disk use.
Great news is that such SSDs are super cheap these days - use less power than spinning rust HDDs; are super-fast and extremely reliable.
On my PC, Trainz + and TRS19-Platinum are on separate 1Tb SSDs, whilst T:ANE and TRS12 share another 500Gb SSD as they both have smaller on-disk footprints and are unlikely to grow further in disk use.
Great news is that such SSDs are super cheap these days - use less power than spinning rust HDDs; are super-fast and extremely reliable.