Timetable Challenge - the route and schedule

No real trains have been set up in the driver set up, apart from a couple that start service at the station first thing, they all appear from portals and the dispatcher train controls all trains through that station. Doing the real timetable for Exeter only 4 trains on the loop part and 1 dispatcher train have been used. I will finish it then put it on the DLS so you can see and compare.
 
Almost finished my sample for timetable control in TRS2004. Ive used my Exeter St Davids and Exeter Central stations in the sample. There are four different rail companies plus freight trains going through the stations. Ive copied the real timetable of Exeter between 11.00hrs and 15.00hrs as it was on a saturday in 1990. Although no freight loading/unloading takes place the yard is used for freight waiting. Industry can be added in much the same way if needed.
The sample includes freight trains arriving at the yard and then engines reversing direction in the yard, a consist splitting into two separate consists for two different journeys. Trains arriving and being laid up until return journey later and all to a set time scale. Apart from a few trains placed at the start of the session all trains are portal created and should arrive about 2 minutes before departure. Alistair is the Exeter station master and posts the messages for trains to depart.
 
I'm angry. All the day i'm working on the session Timetable Challenge PM. This is the combination of Portal menager and Inputtable. Interesting solution but there is an error and I wish that somebody with knowledge see this and repair the rule.
And now I'm angry, upload don't work, so I sent email for tehnical assistance.I hope that upload will succeed soon.

regards
 
Almost finished my sample for timetable control in TRS2004. Ive used my Exeter St Davids and Exeter Central stations in the sample. There are four different rail companies plus freight trains going through the stations. Ive copied the real timetable of Exeter between 11.00hrs and 15.00hrs as it was on a saturday in 1990. Although no freight loading/unloading takes place the yard is used for freight waiting. Industry can be added in much the same way if needed.
The sample includes freight trains arriving at the yard and then engines reversing direction in the yard, a consist splitting into two separate consists for two different journeys. Trains arriving and being laid up until return journey later and all to a set time scale. Apart from a few trains placed at the start of the session all trains are portal created and should arrive about 2 minutes before departure. Alistair is the Exeter station master and posts the messages for trains to depart.

Excellent. I hope we get to see it. This is similar to the kind of working I was aiming for in my 100 Trains Crewe scenario.

I would be very pleased if our efforts lifted the standard of scenario/sessions available in Trainz. Whilst there are a number of interesting and well made routes I've always thought they were not being showed off to advantage due to the lack of comprehensive, realistic, supporting scenarios. Whilst one can always program one's own, usually the routes are not set up with sufficient forethought for scenario/session design so it is not possible to share these on the DLS.

Segy
 
I'm angry. All the day i'm working on the session Timetable Challenge PM. This is the combination of Portal menager and Inputtable. Interesting solution but there is an error and I wish that somebody with knowledge see this and repair the rule.
And now I'm angry, upload don't work, so I sent email for tehnical assistance.I hope that upload will succeed soon.

regards

Hope you persist as I am intrigued by your approach as I've no idea what inputtable is! If we can help in any way with your uploading problems please let us know.

Segy
 
Hello Segy
Thank you for now, I will wait the answer from Australia.

By the way, Inputtable is Atilabarut's rule.

regards
 
Inputtable provide input data for various driver schedule command.
You can use him like a trigger rule. In inputtable enter messages which then use other drivers with driver command CommWithTTable.
The another use is for timing together with driver command Waituntiltime.

I upload my session, but I'm not sure if all was done correctly. This is my first upload. If this upload will be OK I will put in the second ,another version, with different rules.

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Date Received: 26th Oct 2007, 06:37:09 (AEST)
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If upload don't succeed i will ask you for help.

regards
 
Most interesting threads. Amazing what can be accomplished by yu clever clogs...:):)
I agree. When I posted my original query about timetabled running I hoped it would mobilise the community's session-meisters, and it has! ;)
 
The following timetable has been created from a real timetable for trains passing through Exeter st david's and Exeter Central. Using a spreadsheet to workout times, platforms and train type, Ive now got a working route running to it. Four different rail companies plus several freight trains pass through the area. The route has a north/south main line and an east/west line. Portals are placed at all four points to produce trains from the CPC. All trains for the timetable are created from the portals apart for a couple that would have arrived before the 11.15 hrs start. Also included is two special trains that can be triggered as and when i wish. This whole timetable runs with five drivers set up to trigger the portals and one driver to tell trains when to depart from platforms, sidings or freight yards, plus a spare driver.


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This is the single baseboard, that can be placed anywhere, which contains the six drivers that control the portal creations. A driver drives via trackmark (this also passes over a trigger) and then back to his waiting trackmark. Passing trigger starts the portal using the CPC emit train on trigger rule. Each trigger represents a different type of consist or rail company. Allow 10 minutes between the same driver finishing and starting his next trip. Because all drivers have to travel via the single line on the left to get to the trigger some element of delay can be caused when more than one driver departs at the same time. This can vary which train might arrive first or if it is early or late as in the real world.
All departures of trains once the portal has created them is carried out by the station master which is placed in Exeter St David's on the main route baseboards. Using the wait until hour/minute and post message he informs trains when to depart. In this sample he controls five platforms at St David's, two at Central, Sidings and the station freight yard.

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This sample route should be uploaded in a couple of day's and has been done with TRS2004 so some commands may not be available or work with 06 users.
 
Obviously I have the uploading problem.I uploaded file 26.10.07

I selected asset and drag and drop them in the uploads panel, >upload. The dialogue box appeared with "red X icons- Unable to add....as it isn't your content " , >Close, then show License, >accept, and then show "Results: Upload of asset kuid 151442:1310 successful" and then opened Planet Auran browser. In "Unprocessed" was first written "waiting to be processed" and then "File extracted and waiting automated checks".
No further information was done from today.
I'm amazed that my file has only 51 kb, maybe this is a problem?

Any help please.

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2004 Timetable Sample

This layout was built with TRS2004 as an alternative to the TRS2006 Timetable challenge by Segy. The timetable is based on the real timetable for trains passing through the city of Exeter on a Friday in 1990. Ive also put some extra special trains into the layout for the purpose of demonstrating some of the other operations that could be carried out making use of driver commands. Ive included a copy of the timetable in the map folder.
The session starts at 11.15hrs and several trains will move into position, as these would have arrived earlier on, ready for their departure time. The drivers of the TT Trains are named one to six, these are the engines that are set up to pass a trigger which will then cause the portal to creat that train. Although ive used several portals, you could use one as long as you give the portals enough time to produce the consist and for the consist to leave room for the next one. I use the "wait until hour" and "wait until minute" commands to control the engines departure and "drive via trackmark" and "drive to trackmark" for their directions.
The seventh driver in the driver set up has been used as station master to control departures from the station and uses both of the wait until commands together with the post message command. Trains have been set up in the Central Portal Control rule. These trains have been set up with the driver commands for the journey they will undertake. After the load at station i use the "wait for post message and clear" command so the train will depart when the station master posts his message. Next it will copy the commands Gaurds whistle, wait 5 seconds and hornz, from the schedule library then proceed to next station. You can download the gaurds whistle command but you need to open the config file and alter the build from 2.5 to 2.3 for it to work in 04.
The specials have been placed into the operation for this demo but you can get a TT Train to drive via the special trackmarks anytime you want to throw a bit of confusion into the times. The first special arrives at Central station at 11.40hrs, it is a steam special and it will drop of half the carriages before departing to St Davids. The shunter will pick up the carriages and move them into the sidings. At about 12.10hrs the steam train will return at St Davids. The steam special will arrive at Central and will have the carriages attached that where left behind earlier. At 12.51hrs a four unit train will arrive at Central and split into two separate trains both departing for different places via St Davids. About 13.10hrs a second special will pass through St David's for the south. At about 13.42hrs at St David's two units will connect to form a single train for central station. The goods yard will have trains arrive and some will move the engines from one end to the other, they will wait here before departing.
This is only an example of how a timetable could be used in trainz but would need a better post message set up than is available on the DLS at present, ive created on of my own for my devon lines route which has a much bigger selection for stations. Use a spreadsheet to work out the times, platforms etc to avoid conflicts if possible.
Stagecoach
This is now in the process of being uploaded to the DLS.
 
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Hi celje

Thanks for responding to the challenge. You have used a combination of rules that I was not aware of and worth exploring.
At this point I am trying to resolve a problem around an error 'not a driver asset' that occurs after a few minutes and the scenario can't complete correctly. Will let you know how it works out.

Segy
 
Yes, the problem of the TRS is unpredictable behaviour of Ai trains. I think this is the biggest BUG of TRS.
I tried and never succed complete your scenarios SCS2006 and SCS2006 Hybrid.
I made this session and i don't know why Auran rename it in scenario but, as i said before, this was my first upload.
For me the difference between session and scenario is very big and i must say that i prefer sessions.
So many beatiful rules and commands are made by enthusiast trainzers Atilabarut, Brummfondel, Mizi, Sforget, Tackalane, Transiberiano and others. We must just learn and use them.
 
This has been uploaded to the DLS but vanished so have tried again.
Edit And again.

Hi Stagecoach

I was on the lookout for your upload but nothing yet. Would you consider packaging the route say in a zip and hosting it elsewhere - I can't wait to see it.

Segy
 
Hi Segy
It gets uploaded to the unprocessed section but kept vanishing. the last time it said it was being processed then it disappeared yet again. So have given it one more go and if not will try elsewhere. Ive used the post message that is on the DLS but on my own ive renamed the drivers to match the stations on my main route and added extra numbers.
 
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