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This is Soo Dam Annoying!
- Thread starter dragonharh
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You forgot to ask..: How come this is happening? I have the same problem, I have spoken about it many times, and still it does not make sense to me. One thing is for sure, it happens only to splines, track or spline objects. I think it is a bug, a bad one, and it troubles many of us. Will it be fixed in the next SP-1 ??
Sorry to tell you: No "undo" and it happens. It is more complex than you may think: Let's say you have a route and a session. One day you decide to add a spline to the route so it will also show in the session. You do the modification in route and save. But here comes the conumdrum. The menu offers to "save the route" and "create a new session" or "don't save the session". You don't want to create a new session because there you don't have all the rules and schedules that are in the existing session, so the only alternative is to save with the "don't save the session". And it saves! If you added an object, such a house, it saves into the route and session. If you added or modified a spline, the spline is tangled and runs to infinite! So you go to the session and modify the spline there. Now the saving menu offers to overrite the route and or overrite the session. You choose this, and now the splines in the route are scrambled too! At this point you have destroyed some of your work in the basic route! To make more complicated the process, if you could eliminate the splines in the basic route before attemting to do the changes, maybe the new splines will not tangle, but is tedious confusing and should not be so hard. Again, all this need to be reworked and the process should be as good and easy as it was years ago in 09. Any comments?
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The first thing I do when I go to work on a route is to open the SESSION for modifying --- NOT THE ROUTE. Then, immediately after the session/route opens, I MERGE the session into the route. Then when you get ready to save it, everything will be peachy keen. I have never had this spline thing to happen doing it this way.
Cheers and good luck
Dave Snow
Cheers and good luck
Dave Snow
Now i've only had this happen once, and that was after doing a bunch of Undo functions to fix something. In hindsight, I would have been better off just closing the route and starting over on my edits. Perhaps I've been lucky and should go off and play MassMillions! 
So to prevent the multiple Default Sessions, which is really confusing, I've come up with a restricted saving routine. When I save a route, I do the Save, and do not save a session. Once I'm done with my route editing, I will then go into the Sessions menu, in the main launcher menu, and create my session there. I will then save a session as needed, and sometimes will end up saving the route there too if I need to edit a portal or something, which is when this is required.
Now, should I need to edit the route again, I will not make any kind of edits in the Session side of things other than placing rolling stock, configuring portals, and setting up rules. The route editing is again done only from the route menu. This is a bit more work, but it keeps the two functions separate.
I agree the way N3V has setup the layers along with the route/session saving in Surveyor is confusing. There is no reason for this confusion and creation of mutiple default sessions with a save. This is why I came up with my restricted routine of doing route edits only in the route editing side of things on the menu, and session edits on from the sessions menu.
John
So to prevent the multiple Default Sessions, which is really confusing, I've come up with a restricted saving routine. When I save a route, I do the Save, and do not save a session. Once I'm done with my route editing, I will then go into the Sessions menu, in the main launcher menu, and create my session there. I will then save a session as needed, and sometimes will end up saving the route there too if I need to edit a portal or something, which is when this is required.
Now, should I need to edit the route again, I will not make any kind of edits in the Session side of things other than placing rolling stock, configuring portals, and setting up rules. The route editing is again done only from the route menu. This is a bit more work, but it keeps the two functions separate.
I agree the way N3V has setup the layers along with the route/session saving in Surveyor is confusing. There is no reason for this confusion and creation of mutiple default sessions with a save. This is why I came up with my restricted routine of doing route edits only in the route editing side of things on the menu, and session edits on from the sessions menu.
John