Preamble: I am pretty sure this is a bug (or omission by the developers when introducing Surveyor 2.0), however the Trainz Support page states they only accept problems related to “orders, downloading, installation or access only”, and all others must be referred to the forums – so here goes:
I have been a user of Trainz for many years (starting in 2004 I think), and stepped my way through 8 versions. My current version is TRS22PE / TrainzPlus.
I purchased a Raildriver controller (https://raildriver.com), around 2010 and found this greatly enhanced my operational enjoyment, allowing much more realistic driving, especially for diesel locos, and pretty good (with a bit of lateral thinking) for steam.
At first the configuring of the controller was a bit of a kludge, having to manually edit configuration files and cross your fingers (especially to get it to control steam locos), however recent versions (since TRS19 I think) provide a true configurable interface screen within the “Trainz Settings” menu (a big thanks out to the Trainz developers in conjunction with the Raildriver team for this). This setup lists options, and allows buttons and levers to be selected one at a time.
As well as the obvious Engineer’s levers and buttons, the controller includes 28 freely programmed buttons for other functions (also set up through the Trainz Settings” menu).
Two of these configurable button options are “Switch to Surveyor” and “Switch to Driver”. These allow a one-touch quick switch to surveyor to make a small tweak, and another touch to switch back to driver- very convenient when developing a personal layout or operation.
The recent change:
There are now two different Surveyor options in Trainz, “Edit in Surveyor Classic” and “Edit in Surveyor 2.0” shown in the main Trains top level menu. Sadly, the configurable controller button options have not been updated to handle two Surveyor options, they only offer “Switch to Surveyor”, and in practice this switches to the version of Surveyor that you used last (i.e. if you used Surveyor 2.0 last, pressing the button jumps to Surveyor 2.0, if you used Surveyor Classic last, it jumps to that version).
Now to the problem:
While the “Switch to the last Surveyor version you used” can be tolerated, it is the Switch back to Driver that is the problem. While in Surveyor Classic, the Switch to Driver works as expected, but while in Surveyor 2.0, the Switch to Driver does absolutely nothing, leaving you having to revert to keyboard or multiple mouse clicks to get back.
I guess the questions here are – do others experience this? Has anyone found a “work around”? Is there a better way than this forum to report what I see as a simple omission by the developers, not a user problem?
I have been a user of Trainz for many years (starting in 2004 I think), and stepped my way through 8 versions. My current version is TRS22PE / TrainzPlus.
I purchased a Raildriver controller (https://raildriver.com), around 2010 and found this greatly enhanced my operational enjoyment, allowing much more realistic driving, especially for diesel locos, and pretty good (with a bit of lateral thinking) for steam.
At first the configuring of the controller was a bit of a kludge, having to manually edit configuration files and cross your fingers (especially to get it to control steam locos), however recent versions (since TRS19 I think) provide a true configurable interface screen within the “Trainz Settings” menu (a big thanks out to the Trainz developers in conjunction with the Raildriver team for this). This setup lists options, and allows buttons and levers to be selected one at a time.
As well as the obvious Engineer’s levers and buttons, the controller includes 28 freely programmed buttons for other functions (also set up through the Trainz Settings” menu).
Two of these configurable button options are “Switch to Surveyor” and “Switch to Driver”. These allow a one-touch quick switch to surveyor to make a small tweak, and another touch to switch back to driver- very convenient when developing a personal layout or operation.
The recent change:
There are now two different Surveyor options in Trainz, “Edit in Surveyor Classic” and “Edit in Surveyor 2.0” shown in the main Trains top level menu. Sadly, the configurable controller button options have not been updated to handle two Surveyor options, they only offer “Switch to Surveyor”, and in practice this switches to the version of Surveyor that you used last (i.e. if you used Surveyor 2.0 last, pressing the button jumps to Surveyor 2.0, if you used Surveyor Classic last, it jumps to that version).
Now to the problem:
While the “Switch to the last Surveyor version you used” can be tolerated, it is the Switch back to Driver that is the problem. While in Surveyor Classic, the Switch to Driver works as expected, but while in Surveyor 2.0, the Switch to Driver does absolutely nothing, leaving you having to revert to keyboard or multiple mouse clicks to get back.
I guess the questions here are – do others experience this? Has anyone found a “work around”? Is there a better way than this forum to report what I see as a simple omission by the developers, not a user problem?