Switches Crash Surveyor

Glenn52

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I am editing an existing route (Industrial Wasteland) in Surveyor.

I see switches too far from the spline point and when I go to move them closer, their arrows show red both directions, and if I try to delete them the editor crashes.

Any ideas?
 
When you move a lever (or any other trackside object) it is very easy to accidentally move it to an adjacent track. If a lever snaps to another track it will show double red arrows cause there is no junction.

Why deleting a lever should crash the sim is a mystery....

Andy ;)
 
When you move a lever (or any other trackside object) it is very easy to accidentally move it to an adjacent track. If a lever snaps to another track it will show double red arrows cause there is no junction.

Why deleting a lever should crash the sim is a mystery....

Andy ;)


Thanks!

I know about nearby track, so no issue there...

And most of what I have done is work on the single tracks

I have found that on restarting the game (many times), I now get the Repair Database message. Once that's done all looks great - 'til next time.
 
There is an issue with the latest public patch of TS2009 relating to this. It's been fixed in some of the later beta builds, but I don't know when those will go public.
 
I've been running into the same "mystery".

I've been doing some extensive revision on my old yard recently. From what I can tell, when I do something to existing switches, the crashes happen. I am noticing also, that it seems to only happen to the switches that were IMPORTED from 2006 . . . specially when "rotating" or "replacing" the switches.

But, it seems to never (I think never, I may be wrong) happen to the switches that were "newly created" in 2009.

I have been replacing and adding switches in an "old" area. YOU WILL get an indication that its getting ready to crash. As soon as you "replace", "rotate" or "move" a switch, BOTH arrows will turn RED. SAVE immediately then EXIT surveyor. 8 out of 10 times, as you exit surveyor, it will crash.

Re-start and re-open the surveyor with the same route. The switch should show up with the proper "green/red" arrow.

BUT. . . if this happens a few times . . . you will get a prompt for a "broken database". Then click OK . . . LAUNCH Trainz . . . CLICK ASSET . . . CMP will launch and AT THE BOTTOM Windows Task Bar will display "Repairing Database". Let it finish repairing then re-start Trainz. Just yesterday, while revising my old yard, I had to to do a "Repair Database" about a dozen times in a 4 hour period. What a hassel !

I can't wait for this problem to be fixed. SOON I hope. But in the mean time . . . this is what works for me.

:confused:
 
More Double Red Arrows

I have recently run into the same problem with switches being installed with double red arrows. I am running TRS 2009 and everything was fine until I downloaded a layout from 2006 which, when opened, didn't have any switches that I could see. Ever since (2 days ago) all my switches come in with double red arrows, even after rebooting and starting with a blank slate. Opening and closing Surveryor does reset the switches but it is a pain to do that everytime and installing switches or making modifications. Is there a fix for this? I assume something got tweaked when I opened the other layout. Thanks.
 
Try doing a full repair on the database using Content Manager. Launch Content Manager seperately instead of going through the Launcher (You may have to navigate to where the program was installed.

Choose File... then Extensive Database Repair.

Plan on doing something else away from the computer while this runs because it can take some time especially if you have a ton of downloaded stuff.

Once your database is repaired, close CM and launch Trainz normally.

To be honest, I never had this problem even with the initial release of TS2009, but I've also kept up on every patch that came out since the first so having said that, check for any updates in your profile settings. There were subsquent patches that came down and fixed many things within the first month or so of the release of the public version.

John
 
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