steamers not steaming

[bulpup]

Yea, It's cross post, but on 17 people even looked at it in the other forum so here goes again.

I have been getting pretty good with the steamers on other routes but there is one engine giving me a fit.

36ng Colorado & Southern 9 1

After tying all different things that have worked on Settle Carlisle adn other steam engines I finally tried a test. Got the water to 60, coal to 70, nice blazing white fire, haven't added water in at least 10 minutes the brought it to a full stop and waited. THe only thing that has happened is the fire has got a little red. and the pressure went down when I turned the blower on. with the blower off there is not a change in the the boiler pressure. Stuck at 29PSI now for 20 minutes. 8

Graphics wise it appears to be letting off steam just in front and below the cab, but what I have no idea how to stop that. 30 minutes now... not a pound lost of gain. Surely Standing still with a white fire should get at least ONE pound per inch.

Any suggestions?

 

[philskene]

Hi pup --

"Any suggestions?"

Yep.

First off, it always helps if you mention which version of Trainz you are using. As a suggestion start by saying "I'm using Trainz2015 and ... ."

Secondly, this topic has been done almost to death, so did you do a forum search?

Did you find some of my posts for example:

Post #72
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=19272&page=5

Post #2
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=51286

Post #2
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=51085

In essence, you will probably find that the enginespec for that particular locomotive is not quite right. I'd suggest trying the 0-6-0 switcher in the first link given above and see how it performs. If you like it, alias your narrow gauge loco to its enginespec.

Phil

 

[bulpup]

Err, well yea, I did do a forum search. I guess the keywords I used were a little too specific. I suppose I was looking for a technique rather than a download :'( Anyway this is 2009 and the Murcheson 2 add-on, and I use your driving reccomended technique for 2 months to no effect with this engine, so I guess I'm downloading. SHeesh! FWIW, I have specifically dodged older assets with 2009 and have stuck exclusivley to the add-ons jsut so I can learn how to "do" railroads before kicking in to assets stuff.

I appreciate all of your efforts, truly. I am currently waiting for the free non-members section to open up to get my first file off Rapidshare.


However, and you know this is coming, what the heck?!
I bought 2009 and the Murcheson 2 add on. I installed into Trainz and then as a stand alone.

Your responses, helpful as they are, make me angry for a few reasons.

1. If the highly touted Murch 2 add-on doesn't have compatible steamers then they really can't say that it is FULLY COMPATIBLE.

2. If the fix is to download from a, I guess now a 4th Party, then something is off in the QC.

3. I have read your steam tutorial in the past and have follwed this advice to good result in many MANY steamers. This one, that was included in the Murcheson 2 download for 2009, just does not produce steam.

I am not above patching and fixing a program. I do it for other programs all the time, but this is out-of-box stuff.

Getting into Trainz was to just learn what trains and routes do. How to follow a schedule and read the signals and stuff, stoke up a steam engine and get it to work well - THEN modify and make aliases and such.

I find that I am doing a lot more modifying of things waaaay too early from my initial prurchase. If I can't start a 1.5 hour session without worrying about the engine just being built for the wrong version and crapping out in the middle of it then what is the point?

Where's the fun in that?

I have put in considerable time trying to use recommended steamer tecnique at least a dozen times on this engine, route and scenario. Each time, no matter what, this engine stalls out at 22 PSI and never makes a pound of pressure. All that time invested to improve myself (which at first was fun) I find that the faith I placed in the great 2009 add-on was misplaced. And the best fix for it is wait for a slot to open up on Rapidshare or buy a membership to get a fix by basically a samaritan.

Again, thanks for your help and hard work. I applaud the effort, really, thank you.

But man, I don't know if I want to spend more time fixing it after wasting all that good faith time on a broken 2009 asset that I BOUGHT with the program.

 

[philskene]

Hi bulpup --

"I am currently waiting for the free non-members section to open up to get my first file off Rapidshare."

Fortunately I'm oblivious to this since I took out a Rapidshare premium subscription several years ago. In the older days access was always quite easy but it looks like Rapidshare is now becoming too popular. Sorry.

I sometimes share your sense of frustration with Trainz. I eventually got to the stage where I just shrug my shoulders and now make the modifications that I need to - aliasing to enginespecs that work, correcting the mass of the vehicle, adding shadows, adding cabs, changing sounds, adding load point attachments, ... . What I refuse to do, though, is go on that search to the far corners of the Universe for that elusive dependency that is not on the Download Station but is required by some route or item of rolling stock.

If you have an enginespec that you know works, then I'd suggest that you use that one with your other steamers.

For those who have not attempted to alias a locomotive to an enginesound or an enginespec (or anything else for that matter), Post # 132 here might help:

http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=20105&page=9

Of course, make a back up first or make sure you have the original to re-install.

Good luck.

Phil

 

[bulpup]

Hi bulpup --

... . What I refuse to do, though, is go on that search to the far corners of the Universe for that elusive dependency that is not on the Download Station but is required by some route or item of rolling stock.

If you have an enginespec that you know works, then I'd suggest that you use that one with your other steamers.

For those who have not attempted to alias a locomotive to an enginesound or an enginespec (or anything else for that matter), Post # 132 here might help:

http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=20105&page=9

Ah, we are on the same wavelength. After cooling down a bit I realize that I should be concenting on "training" with the diesels. But I might give aliasing the Settle Carlisle tank engines to the Murcheson 2 Narrow Gauges.