Steamer question

railsong

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I have put the UP Big Boy steamer and tender on a route I am building. I tried running it with a consist of coal cars. When I go to the coal mine for loading, it also loads the Big Boy tender with coal. Then when I go to the power plant to unload, it unloads the tender along with the coal cars. Is there a rule that you can use to only load and unload cars? It seems like you shouldn't have to unload all your fuel from the steamer as you unload the consist cars. Maybe you just can't have the steamer so any coal work on the route. I wanted to set up a siding to load water and coal into the tender, but I suppose if I did that the coal loader would load the coal car consist also. Yikes !!! Any help would be appreciated...
 
I am running AI and it automatically stops over the unloading dock. Is there a way to not stop the AI over the unloading dock?....Thanks...
 
You could try to put some trackmarks on your route and have the train go to the trackmark, then load, same for the unload.
 
Well I thought about that, but wouldn't you have to have a trackmark for each car to unload or load? I have a 120 car coal train and that would be very hard to do. I guess I must be trying to do something unusual..I thought maybe there was a rule that would only load or unload just the coal cars...
 
Well I thought about that, but wouldn't you have to have a trackmark for each car to unload or load? I have a 120 car coal train and that would be very hard to do. I guess I must be trying to do something unusual..I thought maybe there was a rule that would only load or unload just the coal cars...

Just one Track Mark will do it Place it where you want the loco to stop and use the "drive to" command. It may take some trial and error by moving the track mark to get it just right. They are also directional so get it pointing in the right direction.

tomurban
 
Preventing Tenders from Unloading Coal

If you want to prevent the tender from unloading its coal, you can add a script to the tender's config.txt file.
First copy these 10 lines into Notepad and save it as Steamtender.gs and put the new file into the tender's kuid file.

// ©Wulf_9, Sept ‘04

include "vehicle.gs"

class Steam_Tender isclass Vehicle {
bool UnloadProduct(LoadingReport report) {
bool UnloadFlag = false;
return UnloadFlag;
}
};

Then edit the tender's config.txt file to add these 2 lines

script "steamtender"
class "Steam_Tender"

Save and commit.

You will get a caution that you are changing a buildin asset but just ignore it. If you screw it up you can always right click it and select Revert to Original to put it back as it was.

Bob
 
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Or, in Driver session, select the commodity picker, one of the four round icons in the lower right corner. When you click on the commodity picker, it will open a box with all possible commodities, and one of those will be a circle with a red X in it. Select that and click on the tender.
 
Bob, as I am fairly new at this, I don''t understand how to find the UP Big Boy tender kuid file to add the new .gs file to it. Or how to find the tender's config.txt file. I sure don't want to mess it up. And to wmmeyer, if I changed the tender's commodity with the commodity picker, will I still be able to fill the tender with coal when it uses it up in the process of doing it's work on the route. I want to be able to fill the tender with water and coal at some time on the route. Like I said I am running it with AI. To tomurban, if I use the trackmark, do I just issue a driver command to "drive to trackmark" instead of drive to the industry, and then issue the unload or load command? I sure appreciate the answers. Please give me some more advice, as it is very helpful.....:confused:
 
Well tomurban, I got the trackmark placed and it is working good now. Now I have to find a tender coal loader to fill the tender with coal when it gets low. I have found some watertanks to fill the tender water tank, so some more experimenting. Thanks to all for your help. I know I can always come to the forum for all the help I need..Thanks again to all.....
Mel:D
 
What an odd issue, I remember this from days of old but i've never had this problem in TS10, maybe the Big Boy wasn't updated correctly?
 
Well tomurban, I got the trackmark placed and it is working good now. Now I have to find a tender coal loader to fill the tender with coal when it gets low. I have found some watertanks to fill the tender water tank, so some more experimenting. Thanks to all for your help. I know I can always come to the forum for all the help I need..Thanks again to all.....
Mel:D

Glad to help. We were all new to this at one time or another. When issuing AI commands I personally use both "Drive to" commands. Such as "Drive to Power Station 1", followed by "Drive to Track Mark XX" so the AI knows where to stop, followed by the "Unload Command". If you want the locomotive and its cars to reload at the mine, just issue the appropriate commands in the correct order. I learned by trial and error until I got the results that I was looking for.

Have Fun, tomurban
 
You have been a great help. I had issued the drive to industry after the drive to trackmark and it does work that way, but I will change it the other way around. Now does anyone know how to set up to load only the tender and not the cars so that I can fill it up on the return trip to the yard for the next trip? Maybe I should have my steamer do other work than loading and unloading coal. I have been using deisel locos until now and havn't had to deal with this issue. Thanks again all.....
Mel:)
 
You have been a great help. I had issued the drive to industry after the drive to trackmark and it does work that way, but I will change it the other way around. Now does anyone know how to set up to load only the tender and not the cars so that I can fill it up on the return trip to the yard for the next trip? Maybe I should have my steamer do other work than loading and unloading coal. I have been using deisel locos until now and havn't had to deal with this issue. Thanks again all.....
Mel:)

It is best to uncouple the engine and set up a separate engine servicing facility with a coaling facility/tower. Different types are available. Try the DLS. You should find something suitable there.

tomurban
 
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