SP4 breaks layer tool

[crb001]

TS19 SP4 Build 114800. Has anyone noticed that SP4 has "broken" the layer tool? TS19 Surveyor defaults to the session layer when starting. That's bad enough for those of us who spend most of our time on the route layer. When I start surveyor, if I'm not very careful I'll spend an hours adding assets to the wrong layer. I protect myself by locking the session layer, but if I leave surveyor for dinner and come back to it later, TS19 switches back to the session layer and unlocks it again. I've fought the problem for many years. Now SP4 has made matters worse. Now if I switch to driver to test a track and return to surveyor, it changes back to the session layer again and often unlocks it. Every single time I go to driver, it changes l layers again. Annoying to say the least. A fix to the problem, perhaps in the new surveyor 2.0, is to allow to user to choose either route or session in setup. For example: "Surveyor defaults to what layer ( ) route layer ( ) session layer" or perhaps a pull-down selection.

 

[pware]

I don't think that what you describing is a "new" issue with TRS19 SP4. I have not noticed any change from previous versions.

When you only load the Route into Surveyor, the route layer (or the top layer in that group) is the "active" layer - the one that is highlighted and where new assets will be immediately placed.

When you load both the Route and the Session into Surveyor, the session layer (or the top layer in that group) is the "active" layer.

The same with the locking and unlocking of layers.

Trainz has never "remembered" the layer you were working on when you last saved and exited Trainz. An often requested feature is for the name of the current active layer to be shown on the screen. It seems that this wish will be granted in the forthcoming Surveyor 2.0. Whether it will also remember the last active layer is as yet unknown.

 

[sd24b]

Doubtful N3V will fix so I suggest:

Post-it note on the Monitor "Check Layer!".

I'm not even being that gib, my work programs have vastly more consequential but similar issues.

My background for my work PC was 150 point font "Check Session!" for awhile

 

[JohnnyC1]

The route opens on the layer menu, choose route layer. If you forget and you add objects on the session layer, just merge the session into the route layer, problem solved.

 

[KotangaGirl]

The only way I've found to stay out of trouble with layers is to obsessively check the layer status immediately before I start doing anything in Surveyor.

 

[pware]

The only way I've found to stay out of trouble with layers is to obsessively check the layer status immediately before I start doing anything in Surveyor.

Great advice. Looking forward to having the active layer name prominently displayed in Surveyor 2.0

 

[RoysTrainz]

Nice at least to say you are constantly on the wrong layer when checking something on the model....
Better is the active layer is selected by the user and stays even if he simply checks things on other layers.

I put a "SELECT LAYER!!!" at the top of my layer stack and i LOCK the session layer.
Still the drama with things going on the wrong layer continues and takes 50% of lost time to correct where bulk asset replace (no splines,no track objects etc etc)should be a feature it is'nt!
Trainz layer concept ohas been andd still is for me a total mess and so badly needed.
The worst featureis Trainz advance menu (what a name) when working on tracks and yards and need to put spline points and other things listed under this menu in F3 and F4.
You have to each time check and click advance menu after doing other important stuff which is you guess under the F3 or F4 main menu point.
Who ever thought to make an advance menu of something so basic should think twice but after so many years and request to pls fix this horror story, nothing so far.

 

[pware]

You have to each time check and click advance menu after doing other important stuff which is you guess under the F3 or F4 main menu point.
Who ever thought to make an advance menu of something so basic should think twice but after so many years and request to pls fix this horror story, nothing so far.

As a frequent user of the spline height adjustment tool that requires me to repeatedly open the "Advanced" menu I fully sympathise. The origins of this "feature" go back to the earliest days of Trainz when screen resolutions (pixels) were much smaller than today with the resulting very limited available screen real estate. We can hope that Surveyor 2.0 will remove this minor annoyance.

 

[JCitron]

As a frequent user of the spline height adjustment tool that requires me to repeatedly open the "Advanced" menu I fully sympathise. The origins of this "feature" go back to the earliest days of Trainz when screen resolutions (pixels) were much smaller than today with the resulting very limited available screen real estate. We can hope that Surveyor 2.0 will remove this minor annoyance.

From what I understand from reading the blurb on it, this is one of the things that will be fixed. Instead of opening the "advanced" menu, we'll be able to right-click on track and do other things with it as needed.

Tony even said that the "advanced menu" was related to the advanced features for Trainz 1.0 oh, so many years ago now.