SEPTA Regional rail routes coming out in the near future!!

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jamal17

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im now working on the septa regional rail route all branches wil be included the R1,2,3,5,6,7,8 just be on the look out it will come out for trs06 and i will have a 09 version as well seeing as how i have both trainz versions
 
Sweet! I had intended to do the R3 West Trenton/R8 Fox Chase/Newtown, but I look forward to seeing your work. Any idea when any of this will be done?
 
i might take half of neuman706 R2 route which he named NEC and continue the septa route from that because he did half the work already with that. im going to ask him if its ok to use that and create all the septa routes with that included. my school is right across the street from the Overbrook yard where the R5 silverliner ii caught on fire last year november. and i know all of the regional rail routes like the back of my hand.
 
I am not really certain how accurate Neumans-NEC route is. The curves look all wrong, and trackage seems swervey & kinked, somewhat. The 30th Street Station looks way off from the prototype.

It might be easier for you to start all over, from scratch ... than to correct a routes previous flaws.

Don't geme wrong ... I have spent dozens, and dozens of hours running trains on Neumans-NEC route, and it is a fun, detailed route !

There are 3 or 4 Fishlipsatwork DEM's that show the Phillyadelphia area.

I could help you out with detailed maps, designing prototypical curves, interlockings, basemaps, and Trainz baseboards of this area.

To go all the way on a prototypically correct Trenton-Norristown-West Chester-Doylestown-PHL Airport, and all the other areas ... that is a pretty lenghtly route with quite alot of baseboards.
 
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thanx man i can really use the help with them stuff plus i detailed nuemans nec route and made it continue to newark station in DE, im going to use www.richegreen.com to help me with the track maps
 
cascaderailroad said:
I am not really certain how accurate Neumans-NEC route is. The curves look all wrong, and trackage seems swervey & kinked, somewhat. The 30th Street Station looks way off from the prototype.

It might be easier for you to start all over, from scratch ... than to correct a routes previous flaws.

Don't geme wrong ... I have spent dozens, and dozens of hours running trains on Neumans-NEC route, and it is a fun, detailed route !

There are 3 or 4 Fishlipsatwork DEM's that show the Phillyadelphia area.

I could help you out with detailed maps, designing prototypical curves, interlockings, basemaps, and Trainz baseboards of this area.

To go all the way on a prototypically correct Trenton-Norristown-West Chester-Doylestown-PHL Airport, and all the other areas ... that is a pretty lenghtly route with quite alot of baseboards.
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i need help with the baseboards, interlockings and basemaps
 
 
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I also have tons of diagrams, some maps, etc. including of the SEPTA system, as well as Amtrak, though few are scanned. I did do a few maps of some of the R lines though. Let me know if you need to pick my brain.
 
Altough a DEM would be ideal at @ 122m elevation (400') ... it would take years to iron out the gradients.

Possibly by using flat baseboards, at 0.00m elevation ... it might make complex tracklaying easier ... then raise the gradients as you go along.
 
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im going to split the regional rail route up between suburban station. for example the part one of the route is going to have the R5 from paoli to suburban station. part 2 with the R5 is going to be from suburban station to doyelstown. and the same for every regional rail route. So this means im going to release to parts of this rail system
 
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cascaderailroad said:
Altough a DEM would be ideal at @ 122m elevation (400') ... it would take years to iron out the gradients.

Possibly by using flat baseboards, at 0.00m elevation ... it might make complex tracklaying easier ... then raise the gradients as you go along.
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1/3 arc sec NED DEMs will often provide sufficient evidence for gradients, since these DEMs usually include cuttings and embankments/high fills. 1/9 arc sec, if available, will give even more detail.
 
i need to find that wide viaduct the regional rail runs over to go across the Schuylkill river. i'm working on the 30th street station yard which i'm almost done with, but only the SEPTA portion of the yard. i'm going to get back to the Amtrak portion of the yard when i'm halfway done because it isn't that hard for me to do. all the track, platform, wire and signal work from university city to temple university is done. i just need to get continue working on rest of the scenery.
 
I think the built in "Stone Viaduct" is close to the prototype. Install 4 viaducts side by side, and set the tracks you are using, floating higher atop the stone viaduct walls.
I added: "Railing Zinc"

That is how I create these shots:
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Are you working on the PRR side? Because I am making DEMs for some of the Reading side. I'm starting the West Trenton/NYSL. Depending on map size I may do the Fox Chase/Newtown too.
 
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I have a Trainz map from Bethlehem to Philadelphia, that was the original commuter rail route but Conrail/SEPTA cut it back to Quakertown, then Lansdale at the end of June and July, 1981. Budd RDC's as well as an FP7 trainset (Reading FP7's are at Steamtown, they visited Emmaus-Pennsburg twice to pull excursions, the ex-Reading coaches are at a museum in Danbury, Connecticut) were used for trains that went north of Lansdale. The train even went to Allentown from June, 1978 to Sept. 1979 the experiment failed because too few riders were using the train from Allentown and the station was in a poor location off of Union St. south of Hamilton St. bridge at the former Lehigh Valley Railroad station platform. There was what looked like a bus shelter with a blue with white letters sign that said ALLENTOWN in a photo in a book I have and a white wood sign saying Future site of Allentown rail station which never happened. I believe the sign remained until several years ago, I remember seeing it as we crossed over the RR crossing at Union St. heading west. I don't think we'll EVER see SEPTA trains go to Bethlehem again, on their site they even state that Bethlehem is outside of their service territory in a question about transportation to the BethSands Casino. Remember, trains ran to Bethlehem before the SEPTA takeover which occurred in January, 1983. The trains at the time, both electric and diesel were operated with Conrail crews under contract with SEPTA and subsidized by PennDOT from Apr 1976 until January, 1983. SEPTA still owns the ROW to Hellertown (tracks removed from below Coopersburg along Rt. 309 to Hellertown for rail trail and tracks removed through City of Bethlehem to Union Station for greenway project) Tracks from Quakertown to Telford operated by East Penn Railroad, and Telford to Lansdale (as well as trackage rights on SEPTA to Warminster, PA) by Pennsylvania Northeastern Railroad a subsidiary of New Hope & Ivyland I believe. They just started last year, taking over from CSX in Lansdale. There is still a possibility for commuter service from Shelly to Lansdale since tracks are still in but would need rebuilding to handle higher speeds plus the section north of the industrial park in Quakertown is out of service and two crossings would need reopening (they were paved over in late 1984 or so after freight service by Conrail ended between Quakertown and Hellertown in Oct 1984) Conrail stopped running to Qtown in 1997, hence the short line takeover. However, Conrail continued running to Telford then CSX from 1999-Aug 2011.

My Trainz route will feature the (former) R5 line between Colmar at Rt. 309 and 30th St. and the currently freight only line from Lansdale to Quakertown and the abandoned part north of there, and the rail trail in Lehigh and Northampton Counties. Some parts of the other SEPTA Regional Rail branches on the former Reading side might be included. As for coaches, the King Industries coaches have a full rideable interior, but no pantographs. I have a Silverliner beta that was available for download but the link no longer works if it can be found. And there are SEPTA coach/cab reskins on DLS which are supposed to be the push pull coaches that are hauled by AEM-7's which SEPTA got in 1987. An Amtrak AEM-7 could be used as a substitute or reskinned for personal use. The Amtrak AEM-7 is available at an Amtrak Trainz site I believe there was also one by connyxy woman from Europe but her downloads are no longer available. There are better Amtrak amfleets on one of the Amtrak Trainz sites anyway. And you can ride in them, conny's you couldn't, no interior camera view. And better than Magicland's payware versions as well. Interior is better than Magicland's. I like eastern PA railroading, I'm also working on CP and Steamtown routes from Sunbury to Scranton and Binghamton, NY as well as Carbondale, PA and Delaware Water Gap, PA. And I have Reading and Northern, Norfolk Southern routes combined from Manville, NJ to Reading, PA (section to Harrisburg unfinished), and Sayre, PA to Jim Thorpe and Reading, PA. I hope to have all major rail lines from Philadelphia to Scranton and Binghamton in three different routes. (The R&N-NS route uses routes by Roon-Josh Drumm and DEM that I generated to fill in missing sections to join the routes together)
 
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