Route disappeared??

I downloaded the Clinchfield TRS II last night. Today I created a new session and when I went to start a driver session, everything I did was gone. Then when I went to exit driver THE ENTIRE ROUTE was gone !! I am currently downloading it again. What happened??
 
I downloaded the Clinchfield TRS II last night. Today I created a new session and when I went to start a driver session, everything I did was gone. Then when I went to exit driver THE ENTIRE ROUTE was gone !! I am currently downloading it again. What happened??

Connel,

When you say you created a session, you did this in Surveyor/Session editor, correct?

If this is so, your session is still there.

If you did this within Driver, then you need to click on the load saved sessions button and load the driving session that you saved.


John
 
I found this error/warning: The Tag "thumbnail" is not permitted within a container of type "map".
What does that mean? When creating a session, I used "replace assets" to change out some trees, added a few locos, coal gondolas and containers/wellcars that I have used on other sessions/routes. When leaving DRIVER and saving, the route completely disappeared from the ROUTES menu !!
I am downloading Clinch TRS II one more time. (It has dissapeared twice so far).

Thanks.
 
That's cropped up a few times. In order to fix it, the route must be opened for edit using Content Manager, and the 'thumbnail' line must be removed from the config.txt file before recommitting.

The correct format for the thumbnail container is:

thumbnails
{
0
{
image "$screenshot$.jpg"
width 240
height 180
}
}

Note - you can use any .jpg file in place of $screenshot$.jpg, but the file must exist in the asset folder, and must be the width and height shown in the excerpt above.

Shane
 
Thanks for the info Shane. I stumbled around and found out how to open that thing to edit and attempted to do what you outlined. When I went back out and hit "Commit", I got an error message something like..."unable to commit because of a missing kuid...". Anyway, I have since downloaded it AGAIN, and have started piece by piece to create a new session and save as I go to see what happens. By the way, sometime when exiting driver it asks if you want to save. I swear sometimes the dialog box will read "Do you want to save the Route and Session" and other times it reads "Do you want to save the Session". Maybe I'm doing something out of order or wrong. When I download a new route or perhaps take a "built-in" route and want to "customize" , if you will, the route with my own locos, freight cars and misc.little scenery items and such, I select the route and then choose "Create a New Session". Is that right? That way I leave the original route alone and just create my own session using that routes scenery, track, etc.

Thanks.
 
I just had this thing disappear for the third time !!! Could changing the "Environment" (sky, month and time of day) be screwing this thing up? It is a shame, because this is such a beautiful route. I added one locomotive, twenty five empty coal gondolas and then changed the environment and "saved as" with a new session name; exited surveyor and it is NOT in the route list any longer. This is BS man !
 
I just had this thing disappear for the third time !!! Could changing the "Environment" (sky, month and time of day) be screwing this thing up? It is a shame, because this is such a beautiful route. I added one locomotive, twenty five empty coal gondolas and then changed the environment and "saved as" with a new session name; exited surveyor and it is NOT in the route list any longer. This is BS man !

Check Content Manager and see if there are any errors first before we do something else.

Are you running as Administrator?

When you run Trainz TS12, run as Administrator. Right-click on the icon and choose run as admin when you start. You'll be prompted to click on something - click on OK. The program will load.
This will ensure that whatever you are doing is saved properly and that TS12 has user rights to the folders.

The way you're working maybe created some confusion. This has to do with not you, but the way the layers are implemented in the program. Layers are there to allow you to create multiple sessions using the same track layout, but change things such as Trains, Environment, and other variables.

What I do is to never put anything on the route-layer that should not be permanent, including trains.

You will notice that when you save something to the route layer, you'll be prompted to save both the route and a session that goes with it. When I save a route, my first save is a Save as... and includes saving the default session. After that I do not save a session while working on the track layout, adjusting things, placing assets, etc. When it comes time to setup the running session, I create a new session. In there I place the trains and setup running schedules, etc.

Now to make things a bit more complicated, you can place objects that only appear in a session, but are part of a route. This can be such things as trees, buildings, and other objects. You can move items from the route layer to the session layer within Surveyor. This is helpful, for example when you are editing a route and want to keep something from moving such as people sitting on a park bench under some trees. When you go to move people, the trees get in the way. By locking the trees, or even hiding them, you can easily move the people around. When you're done, unhide or unlock the items by moving them back to the route layer.

Experiment with the last part to see what it does for you. In the mean time, keep things simple like I do. It makes the world of difference when it comes to stuff like this.

John
 
Thanks, a million John. I have just created a new session on a fresh download and went to "Save As" and saved a new session. I then exited Surveyor. So far, so good. I then selected the session I just saved and went into Driver. Perfect. After operating a while I exited and everything was still there !!
I still cannot understand why the whole route would completely remove itself from my route list? Oh well, it's all good for now. I learn something each time.

Thanks again.
 
Thanks, a million John. I have just created a new session on a fresh download and went to "Save As" and saved a new session. I then exited Surveyor. So far, so good. I then selected the session I just saved and went into Driver. Perfect. After operating a while I exited and everything was still there !!
I still cannot understand why the whole route would completely remove itself from my route list? Oh well, it's all good for now. I learn something each time.

Thanks again.

Awesome, Connel!

Some things that happen in Trainz are unexplained, others have some logic. What can remove a route from Trainz causing the error is closing Trainz before the route has been closed by the program. Huh? :confused: I can see you saying! Very simply the program is still doing stuff in the background when you've closed the main program. Since there's nothing on the screen, you think the program is done so you shut down your computer. The problem is the program is still busy and the data can end up corrupt.

To get around this problem, I run the program with the developer option of enabling the command-line processors. What this does is show small command windows when Trainz is running. Since for the most part, we run the program full screen, we don't see these little tasks running on our computer. When we exit the program back to the desktop, we see them on the task bar. When these tasks have closed, stopped running, it's then safe to turn the computer off.

John
 
Change someone elses route or create a session will make trainz save under your kuid number and not the original.
Change your route or session and you can save under the same kuid number for both.
A driver session is different from a surveyor session, Driver wont open a surveyor session and you cant edit a driver saved session. When a driver session is saved the route is also saved, any alterations to the route in surveyor will not alter the route in the saved driver session.
 
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