I guess we'll have to wait for him to release them to the public, or else have someone else like bendorsey make some steel heavyweights with interiors. His (ben's) coaches are wooden. I found 2 red coaches on the dls with see through windows and celestory roofs but they're Australian, and both are pullman sleepers but I wanted a coach, too with just seats. If anyone can contact Marlboro, can they find out when or if there will be a public release of these awesome coaches. There is the NP coach and CNW coach on the dls which has see through windows and viewable interior, but not as detailed as these. If Marlboro doesn't want them distributed right now, well it's his right to control his content.