Question about Multiple Industry New

Mick_Berg

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I'm having a little problem with the Multiple Industry (New). I have set up a MIN as my main Coal Depot, but it will only produce coal one time. I load up a coal train, send it round my route to distribute coal to some other MINs (set up to consume), bring the empty train back again, and try to load it again, but it won't load a second time. I've set the "size" property to ten times the amount the train takes. I don't understand the "Duration " property, I left it at the default, 30. Is the problem something to do with that?
I have read the tutorial, but it doesn't help with this problem.
Thanks,
Mick Berg.
 
You will need to increase the productivity of the mine to replenish what you take. it is set up in the roperties window of the asset.
 
You will need to increase the productivity of the mine to replenish what you take. it is set up in the roperties window of the asset.
Thanks, but as I said in my post, I increased the size to ten times what the train takes. It must be another problem. Any other suggestions, anyone?
Thanks,
Mick Berg.
 
Duration is in Seconds

Duration = seconds to produce product.

There are four tabs in new industry track that need to be set in order to function.

1.) Queues - Select products to be handled.

In this case hit the plus sign scroll down and select coal.

Set size. Size = maxium amount of inventory to be handled could be as high as 10,000,000 kilos.

tonnes = sets the starting inventory. (why Auran used tonnes I don't know) :o in the case of coal 1 tonnes = 1162 units or kilos.

2) Tracks - Hit plus sign and select coal.

Set to either load or unload but DO NOT do both.

3) Process - First Plus sign = Consume
Second Plus sign = Produce

In this case select second plus sign and select coal.

Set duration 30 = 30 seconds

set the amount of tonnes to produce in 30 seconds

4) Products

Hit plus sign and select coal and choose what hopper you are going to use to haul the coal. This will tell you how many tonnes it will take to fill the hopper. Go back to process and increase production to fill your train in the length of time it takes to do your run.


Hope this helps:cool:

Comment: I like industry new track better than Lars industry tracks because you can better control the production and consumption of products using duration. Lars tracks are default produce or consume in one minute where you can set 5 minutes or 5 hours with new industry track.
 
Thanks again, but I have no problem setting it up, it works fine, and I like the way it only unloads one wagon at each of my small receiving coal depots. My only problem is that the producing M.I.N will only load the train once. This is what I am asking for help with. I will build a simple oval test track and experiment.
Thanks,
Mick Berg.
 
Maybe set up mutiple Industry Tracks.....

Maybe you need to set up mutiple industry tracks to haul bigger loads.:hehe:
 
Hi,

I have never actually setup a M.I.N to produce coal before, but I do have one consuming coal that is delivered to it from a coal mine for a steel mill type setup.

But anyway, have a look at this, it may help a little understanding the setup, you may just have to increase the 'amount' that is produced every 30 seconds to build back up the stock that was taken in the first load (hope that made sence... :))

http://members.westnet.com.au/nightcrawler/trainz/index.htm

In the main menu, click on Tutorials.
 
AussieNightcrawler,

Thanks for your tutorial which was extremely well presented. Even a Pommie understood it, although my mind is elsewhere today:)

I am not sure what the number of queues represent. Is queue 1 loaded before 2 etc.?

I also am experiencing occasional error reports where I have to terminate programme. These are not consistent as most times the session runs ok.

Anyway, thanks again.
 
Hi,

To my knowledge the queue number is just a number to tell which queue is which, because the M.I.N (or any other industry) can have multiple processes running at once it must know what it is to do with each product.

Example is in the Tutorial Part B, Produce and Consume a Product, there are 2 queues, one to consume and unload the Iron Ore, one to produce and load steel (I-Traeger 60cm, 18m).

No, queue1 does not get priority over queue2, the M.I.N will load or unload the product from a queue as needed, as it gets there.

So yeah, my view is that the queue numbers are just there so that every product that you put into the M.I.N it knows what to do with.


Hope that made sence... :)
 
I can setup an M.I.N just as fast as the LARS Industry, there is no real difference between them.

Use want you are used too, I use the M.I.N as its builtin and can do everything that I want just as good as the LARS Industries.
 
Hey Mike did you figure it out?

Hey Mike did you figure out what the problem was with your multiple industry new track? Is it now making enough coal?:)
 
Reason for multiple queues.

The M.I.N has multiple queues so that you can set individual maximum product levels for multiple commodities. This helps with the Waybills system. When you set up the queue level you also set at what level of inventory a waybill will be posted.
 
Strange thing about this topic is now in 2006 they only produce
when another item is set as the consumption = produce....
and that is limited to 1/10 th of the products available let alone
it wont do jack with bulk items ugh........nor are the regular default products workable getting of course the famous null? why? item is theyre ?
and the wrong commodity.... etc........
The lars well another story some seem to work fine but not all products....?
So I noticed here something about setting up the car?
Does this mean assigning it to a specific car on the consist then?
For it to work fully?
Dave =)
 
Hey Mike did you figure out what the problem was with your multiple industry new track? Is it now making enough coal?:)
I see that I have set myself a challenge here. Sure, if I increase the size, I can get enough coal for multiple trips, but then the system tries to unload all the coal at the first stop. So I lose my neat feature of only one coal wagon being unloaded at each stop on each trip.
I thought I could set up more than one queue, to unload one wagon at each stop. So then I have to have 5 separate Coal products. I cloned the Coal product and called it "Coal1", but it won't appear in the list of products in the M.I.N. Can anyone help with that? Is there a list somewhere I have to add to manually?
And one more question, where do I find the LARS industry? (I might as well check it out.) It doesn't come up when I search CMP.
Thanks,
Mick Berg.
 
Mick --

Try a search using philskene as the username. You will discover a few LARS industries, and a number of routes and sessions that use LARS. You might like to dry, for example, a PortSwitchingCo session to see how LARS can be made to work.

This might also be helpful:

http://www.worldoftrainz.com/Pages/Tutorials_TRS2004/LARS-ProtoLARS-TutTRS.htm

One way of achieving what you want to to is to set up a ProtoLARS industry to unload coal with an unloading interval of say 30 seconds, and wait only sufficiently long to unload the number of freight cars that you want.

Phil
 
I see that I have set myself a challenge here. Sure, if I increase the size, I can get enough coal for multiple trips, but then the system tries to unload all the coal at the first stop. So I lose my neat feature of only one coal wagon being unloaded at each stop on each trip.
Thanks,
Mick Berg.

Ah ok, If you are trying to only unload a few of the wagons in the consist then you will run into problems with pretty much all industries and not only the M.I.N.

If this is something you want to do, only unload say half of the consist at one industry then move on to another industry, setup a 'yard' or 'siding' near the industry, pull the consist into this first, then decouple from half of the wagons, unload the others, the couple back up to the half and continue on to the next industry.

SuperFudd,

In my view, a queue is declaring products to be used in the processes.

To keep it short and simple.
 
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