Problem with Windows Explorer (Not Internet Explorer)

rmdk

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Just recently noticed a severe reduction in performance of TS2009. So I accessed 'windows task manager' while TS2009 was running and noticed under 'processes' that "explorer.exe" was hogging about 40-50% of resources. I have been closing "explorer.exe" down which has lead to TS2009 running very well.
Is there anyway I can stop the performance reduction happening without closing "explorer.exe" down. Are there setting changes I can make somewhere? When I close "explorer.exe" down in 'windows task manager' all the desktop icons disappear.

Russell
 
Russel,

Windows explorer should not be hogging resources, in fact it should not normally start unless you select it. The vanishing icons are also slightly worrying.

I would run full virus/malware scans (using more than one scanner).

It would help in looking into this further if you could provide details of which Operating System and OS Version you are using.
 
Thanks itareus for your quick reply and suggestions. I'll try the virus scan and see what happens.

Regards,

Russell
 
Thanks Rusty1955,

I've downloaded the file, but it has an efw extension, so I'll have to go searching to find out how to open it.

In the mean time, is there anyway to stop EXPLORER from starting automatically? I've ventured into msconfig & made changes. Even started most basic startup in msconfig, but EXPLORER always is up and running when I look via Windows task manager.

I am running Windows XP Professional, 4 G RAM, Nvidia 8800 gts.


Russell
 
explorer is going to be running when you start windows up. It is hte program that allows you to access your files, programs, etc. There are two ways of not using explorer. 1 is to run your computer in command line safe-mode. but you need to know how command line works to do that. The other option is to install Linux or Mac on your computer and not use windows at all.

peter
 
Snippet: The other option is to install Linux or Mac on your computer and not use windows at all.

Doesn't Trainz only run on the Windows OS? If it runs under Linux, Google Chrome, a free Linux based OS will be available next year.
 
...Thanks Rusty1955,

I've downloaded the file, but it has an efw extension, so I'll have to go searching to find out how to open it....
Russell

Ummm, you got the wrong file. Try this link to Download.com's site.
http://download.cnet.com/Malwarebyt...4572.html?part=dl-10804572&subj=dl&tag=button

It's an exe. Save it to your Desktop (or wherever you can find it) and run. Let it update itself, then do a full scan. I've also used Malwarebytes for some time now and can attest to its thoroughness. Another free one I like a lot is A Squared. It's also available at Download.com...http://download.cnet.com/A-squared-Free/3000-2239_4-10262215.html.

Windows Explorer always runs. It's what makes Windows look like Windows. It should NOT, however, use up all those cycles. Something is amiss, most likely a virus/trojan/spyware.

Good luck! Now would be a great time to back up your data...

Darrel
 
i believe 'explorer' is what loads your desktop -- you need it, mostly -- though you can get around it by loading task and finding the app to run -- but, you'd have to click 'explorer' in task manager's 'processes' and close it down first.

it does sound like something's in the background using your explorer to 'explore', and that usually means alien-app.

there's a good thing called 'hi-jack this' which shows what's being loaded in at start-up.

when you see something loading from a 'temp' directory, for instance, it's probably an evil clone calling home?

do a google though, for sure, with your general wording: 'windows explorer using 50 per cent of resources' ?

Thanks Rusty1955,

I've downloaded the file, but it has an efw extension, so I'll have to go searching to find out how to open it.

In the mean time, is there anyway to stop EXPLORER from starting automatically? I've ventured into msconfig & made changes. Even started most basic startup in msconfig, but EXPLORER always is up and running when I look via Windows task manager.

I am running Windows XP Professional, 4 G RAM, Nvidia 8800 gts.


Russell
 
Simple DOS

...Windows Explorer always runs...Darrel
I can remember when there was no "Windows"! Everything including todays windows still operate under Dos. Just there were many limits with the direct program, but with addons, that even then was better that all the trouble with Windows. I had a problem and lost all functions from an update, so you might just reinstall the windows from CD and try again. Worked for me!
 
Snippet: The other option is to install Linux or Mac on your computer and not use windows at all.

Doesn't Trainz only run on the Windows OS? If it runs under Linux, Google Chrome, a free Linux based OS will be available next year.

Trainz runs in Linux with a little assistance from Wine, some distributions work better than others, Wine is a sort of emulation layer of Windows compatible libraries written from scratch and most distributions as is 90% of the software is free anyway. I use Linux for most things in particular anything that involves internet access but use Windows for stuff I haven't ....... yet got to work in Linux or found a Linux substitute for.
 
Hi,

just a couple of thoughts - based on recent experience :(

I recently downloaded updates for Win XP. this included a couple of new tools - one of these is the Window File catalog program (can't remember the exact name now - I've binned it!).

This started to index all the files on the C:\ drive ...
As you can imagine, that takes a lot of resources (and happens lots).

that may explain this problem..

Colin
 
I don't want to get involved here because I really don't have a lot of good news to offer. many of you will know that I've been fixing PC software issues since the introduction of MSDOS way back in 84-85. I've fixed a lot of sick, very sick and dead machines in my time, but Windows keeps throwing new stuff at you all the time. My comments here cover a lot of the posts above but not in any particular order.

I have all the latest XP updates (every one!), I haven't ditched anything and I don't have the problem.

Due to a suggestion made here, I installed Malwarebyte. The free version is too basic for me. The small footprint and mini database suggests it's no match for Spybot or Adaware. Malwarebyte showed no errors on my machine and that's garbage. Every time you go somewhere a bit off course, you pick up crap. I'll bet Spybot and Adaware would find dozens of issues. I'll try them tomorrow.

HiJack This is a very powerful and very dangerous tool. So much so, the developers ask novices not to make any changes to their computer unless the log has been checked by an expert first. Due to the backlog, that can take time.

This is the bad news: I did a search on the Internet last night and you're not alone. There are hundreds of similar cases reported in the forums, without a single solution. Often the advice you get from these places is garbage anyway. For example, one guy suggests you format your HD every month. I never format mine unless I have a crash, which does happen, but is rare.

When I was in Melbourne, my friend's hard disk also never stopped running. As a result, I spent one week of my vacation fixing it. Some vacation! He had the same problem, but I could not tell you what the cause was. I spent two days doing all the standard diagnostics, repairs, cleanups etc., but the problem persisted. I eventually backed up all his data (no programs or drivers), then reformatted the hard disk. The next few days were spent loading all new software, replacing drivers and all the data into a dozen different user accounts. Yuk? If I was being paid, it would have been a Thousand Dollar job.

The result was a much improved machine with a completely taimed hard disk. I then replaced the 256kb memory with 1 gig and the 5 year old Dell is flying.

Before you take on the task of reformatting, there are several things you can try. I've written a checklist and basic tutorial on this forum at least a dozen times before and I do not wish to do it again. The thing is, you decide on who you think is giving the best advice and you follow them - and them only. Jumping from one fix to another could break your machine.

Guys, I'm not having a go at anyone here. All the advice above is good advice, but mix it up and it's not so good. For example, person A says use this trojan remover, and person B says use this one. Both may be fine, but Windows can only handle one real time trojan remover at a time. If you try to run two together, they will start fighting each other and all hell will break loose. So you run AVG or Nortons, but never both!

Things like Malwarebyte are different. They are not Trojan removers, they are Malware removers and they run on demand. Thus you will only run one at a time anyway.

Doing a disk defrag is another thing. If you run it while your antivirus software is running, the defrag will be constantly interrupted because another program used the disk. That program of course, was your Antivirus software checking up on defrag. This endless cycle will make a four hour defrag take days.

Before you begin to think about formatting your computer, you should spend a day fixing it. That work may save you a lot of time in the long run.

I'll put a first aid kit on my site so that anyone interested can read it at any time. It will take me a day or two to prepare it because I'll try to make it as painless as possible. I'll let you know when it's there, but in the meantime don't panic.

One final question: Did you ever download and/or install an anti Malware program from Microsoft? I can't recall the name, but I think it's part of Vista. I don't mean the Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool which is part of the updates. There was another one which was absolute garbage. it also made the hard disk work overtime.
 
John,

Good post! I would like to add some information about Malwarebytes that may surprise you. I have Malwarebytes, Spybot S&D and Adaware installed on my computer. Malwarebytes found 3 Trojans that the other 2 didn't see.

I too have been in the computer field since the mid 80's and have seen my share of garbage come down the tube. With Microsoft it is a never ending battle trying to figure out what is garbage and what might actually be useful.

Just wanted to throw that in to you about that little footprint program that found what the big ones couldn't.

Have a great day! I'm headed for bed since it is 3 A.M. here!!
 
Hi Rusty. Hope you have a good sleep and thanks for the comment. What does interest me however, is that cNet insist the free version of Malwarebytes does not check for virus's. They actually stress that point, saying that it is only any good for locating spyware.

I'm doing a comparison now by using Malwarebytes deep scan.
 
Phew. A lot of info to try to understand, and hopefully fix my problem.
Thank you to all the above contributors - I have taken all your comments/suggestions on board and will work through them as I get time.
Once again thank you for your attempts to assist me.

Regards,

Russell
 
Russell, I'm preparing a tutorial based on all of the above. It will be ready in a couple of days, so I suggest you hang out till then. As I said, doing things in a ad-hoc way, can make matters worse. My tutorial may not solve the problem, but it at least has all bases covered and the runners being knocked off in the right order.
 
Thanks John, I'll wait until you have it up and running.
Could you post in here so that I and all the others above are aware of it.

Regards,

Russell
 
Hi Russell.

The tutorial will be in two parts. One will be step by step from downloading the software, installing and running it. The other part will just be what to do. It assumes that you have the software or at least know how to install and run it. The tutorial will just put everything in the right order.

To answer your question, no I will not post it here. It will be lost forever in a matter of days like the last half dozen I've already posted over the years. I will place it on my site Trainz Resources Directory where anyone can find it, including those Trainz users who don't come anywhere near these forums.

I'll let you know in this thread when I've posted the second shorter version, which I think is all you'll need.

Regards, John
 
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