Portals

[Approach_Medium]

Hi;
I'm wondering whether I can have a train on one of my routes and appear in another portal on another of my routes, after some time.
Both of the routes are on the same system, but cannot be running at the same time.
The idea would be that a train would leave one route through a portal, and re-appear after a couple of hours, or the next time I run the receiving route (whichever is later).

I haven't played with portals enough to completely understand their use.

Thanks

FW

 

[cascaderailroad]

Use Iportal...the stone tunnel one.

You can send trains inner your own PC to another separate route on your PC.

You can set the time and frequency of emiting trains. You have to type in the consuming and emiting routes names when using portals and Iportals

I usually set it at emit trains every 1 min, just for testing.

Then I adjust the emiting time after I get the routes fully working.

I believe, that you can't let the Iportal tunnel overhang the baseboard edge... IDK ? And that you should have a baseboard length track at the emiting enterance for the train... IDK ? Maybe thats "Portal"...I'm so confused...but I'm having fun with portals and Iportals!


Supposedly, you can send Iportal trains to another PC, via the internet, to a separate players PC, in another room in your own house, or even to a player in Austrailia. (Multi Player) (Chat) ?

 

[JIb228]

Use Iportal...the stone tunnel one.

You can send trains inner your own PC to another separate route on your PC.

You can set the time and frequency of emiting trains. You have to type in the consuming and emiting routes names when using portals and Iportals

I usually set it at emit trains every 1 min, just for testing.

Then I adjust the emiting time after I get the routes fully working.

I believe, that you can't let the Iportal tunnel overhang the baseboard edge... IDK ? And that you should have a baseboard length track at the emiting enterance for the train... IDK ? Maybe thats "Portal"...I'm so confused...but I'm having fun with portals and Iportals!


Supposedly, you can send Iportal trains to another PC, via the internet, to a separate players PC, in another room in your own house, or even to a player in Austrailia. (Multi Player) (Chat) ?

Yes, thats all all-most right. You can let the iPortal hang off the side.

You can send a train via the inter net to your self, or others. You would need to know their in game name, and the name of the portal you are sending too. And you and your friend must have the same content, if your friend doesn't have the piece of content that you are sending, it wont work.

Example:

Player 1 has train 1 with built in IC hoppers and built in ATSF SD40. Player 1's iPortal is named P1Portal. Player 2's iPortal is named P2Portal. Player 1 can send train 1 to Player 2 once Player 1 sets the iPortal's destination portal to P2Portal and the send to user to Player 2.

There is a bit of a club that has been, for over a year now, trying to organize some iPortal stuff.

As for the online chat, it works, and I put it in all my sessions.

 

[Approach_Medium]

Thanks for your help;

What I really want to do is send a train from one route to another, both on my PC.
Can I send a train through a portal to another portal on another route that is not currently running?
There is no way I can have two TS2009 routes running at the same time on the same PC.
I don't have another PC on which I can run TS (well, actually, I do, but it's a 1GHZ laptop, and the frame rates would be way too slow), so I would need to have the train info saved to the HDD, and picked up with the other route becomes active (provided the time has elapsed).

I have a route in New Jersey, and one in PA, which are connected via track (Lehigh Line), but I don't think I can merge such large routes without trouble, and even if I could the resulting route would be so large as to require a super-computer to run<g>.
Thus, the portal (or iportal) would be the next best thing.

FW

 

[JIb228]

Thanks for your help;

What I really want to do is send a train from one route to another, both on my PC.
Can I send a train through a portal to another portal on another route that is not currently running?
There is no way I can have two TS2009 routes running at the same time on the same PC.
I don't have another PC on which I can run TS (well, actually, I do, but it's a 1GHZ laptop, and the frame rates would be way too slow), so I would need to have the train info saved to the HDD, and picked up with the other route becomes active (provided the time has elapsed).

I have a route in New Jersey, and one in PA, which are connected via track (Lehigh Line), but I don't think I can merge such large routes without trouble, and even if I could the resulting route would be so large as to require a super-computer to run<g>.
Thus, the portal (or iportal) would be the next best thing.

FW

Yes you can, I do this when I am running sessions, and want to add trains to a session with out losing all my work I just did.(Got to love yards) I have my main route and will hide a iPortal named (Route initials)Staging. I then have a route set up with just a yard and one iPortal with its id set to FMStaging. Thats what I do, and the same idea can be applied to your routes.

Here's how you could set up the iPortal's.

For your route in New Jersey, set the iPortal like this:
Portal ID: NJportal1 (name any others 2,3,4,5,etc)
Send to user: fwassner
Destination portal: PAportal1
Check for trains: (Set it to any time, I like every 1 min, but you can set it to what ever)
Send trains via: (Internet if you plan and only playing when at home, or when you have a internet connection, within computer if you plan on taking your laptop on the road, and playing. (If your playing on a laptop like me(And I some times take TRS on the road)))
The last setting set to manual, that way the train wont mess with any of your others, it will run till its out of the portal, then stop.

I would suggest leaving at least 1 mile of track form the iPortal to your main line, or more if you are running longer trains.

Then on your PA route, set it up all most the same way. Changing it like this:

Portal ID: PAportal1 (name any others 2,3,4,5,etc)
Send to user: fwassner
Destination portal: NJportal1
Check for trains: (Set it to any time, I like every 1 min, but you can set it to what ever)
Send trains via: (What ever, I'd say withing computer, it doesn't matter.)
The last setting set to manual.

Now when train A on your NJ route runs into NJportal1. The next time your run on your PA route, train A will pop out. DOnt send a lot of trains through at once though, you might back up your iPortal. If you want to send lots of trains, add more iPortals to both routes and name them NJportal 2-3-4-etc and PAportal 2-3-4-etc.

Hope this helps, if not, ask for more and I'll see what I can do.

 

[danny5]

portals

FW hi, Put an iportal in the NJ route give it enough track to hole the longest train you will be sending Thur it before your first signal.then click the ? then the portal, name the portal NJR (New Jersey Route) as for user ID.(use your user name) send to ID (use your user name) send to use PAR.(PA route) now go to your PA route and put in a iportal do the same but after clicking on portal you want to set this one up like so,name the portal PAR(PA route). Same user name,send to ID NJR.on both routes set to within this computer. Click on session add panel selector rule this will give you a list of your iportal on that route, by clicking on it then click on the one you sent the train to will display your portal standing creating a train click on that and the train you sent from the other route should appear.Hopes this help/are really confuses you.
Danny5
ps put in online chat and we at iportals will talk to you while running trainz.

 

[Approach_Medium]

Thanks JIb228;
That's a great tutorial. I'm going to copy it and keep in MS Word for ref.
I'm wondering whether I can add a time delay before the train from one portal will appear out of the other.
It takes at least 2 hours for a train to reach Allentown PA from Newark NJ on the Lehigh Line.
If I cannot set time delay, I'll just hold the train at the portal before I allow it to enter the Allentown yard. I can use a Wait command in Driver.

I'll tell you; There are so many things to play with in Trainz, it's impossible to become bored with this "game" (I like to call it a simulation, not a game).

Thanks again

FW

 

[JIb228]

Well....I think if you set the "Check for trains" to a higher time, then it will look for trains less often. With a Check for trains time of 15 minutes, the iPortal will look to see if there are any trains waiting to come in every 15 minuets. But I think it will check to see if a train is waiting to come in when you first load the route in driver. You could set it to off, but then you have to manually Ctrl+Right the iPortal to bring up its menu in driver, then you can hit a button that will check to trains.

You could try and set the Check for trains setting for 120-150 minuets, or you could build the iPortal far enough off form your main line as to hide it. The when the train enters the route, it would be on this "hidden" track. The Hidden track to be track the run's behind some tress, buildings, and what not. Or it could be track that runs a few miles down the Lehigh Line to the iPortal. Blocked form view by a tunnel, or some thing.

I'll tell you; There are so many things to play with in Trainz, it's impossible to become bored with this "game" (I like to call it a simulation, not a game).

That is true.

 

[Approach_Medium]

Well....I think if you set the "Check for trains" to a higher time, then it will look for trains less often. With a Check for trains time of 15 minutes, the iPortal will look to see if there are any trains waiting to come in every 15 minuets. But I think it will check to see if a train is waiting to come in when you first load the route in driver. You could set it to off, but then you have to manually Ctrl+Right the iPortal to bring up its menu in driver, then you can hit a button that will check to trains.

You could try and set the Check for trains setting for 120-150 minuets, or you could build the iPortal far enough off form your main line as to hide it. The when the train enters the route, it would be on this "hidden" track. The Hidden track to be track the run's behind some tress, buildings, and what not. Or it could be track that runs a few miles down the Lehigh Line to the iPortal. Blocked form view by a tunnel, or some thing.



That is true.

I could go directly from the iportal into a tunnel, long enough to hold a train, and set the iportal to have trainz stop when they are emitted (whici I think is default). I could write a short script, or use the driver command Wait until, or Wait for to allow the train out of the tunnel and into the yard.

I could also wait a couple hours between running one route and the other. It is more likely that I would be doing that anyway. I run a session of a few hours in one route, then have lunch, etc and come back and run the other route.
I just have to make sure I don't send too many trains into the portals, or I will have a problem that will be difficult to handle<g>.

Alternatively, I could just build the 100+ miles of track between Newark NJ and Allentown PA. Probably will not be able to create the route in Transdem and export due to size restrictions, but I don't think there is really any size restriction in Surveyor itself, so I could just lay the baseboards equal to the actual mileage, throw in some terran, and lay the track.

It's still a ways off anyway. I am working on the Allentown-Reading-Scranton lines now.
I haven't even completed the NJ routes. It's just something I would enjoy doing eventually.

FW