Old railroads, ghost stories and mysteries
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perry_weekley
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All the while reading that article I was thinking how great a book that would make. I wish I was joking with that statement too. Mass burial, deaths, cholera, ghost stories, and a murder mystery? That's a New York Times best seller for sure.
I hope they come to a final conclusion but I think it was more murder than " quarantine" as the end of the CNN article makes it out to be.
I hope they come to a final conclusion but I think it was more murder than " quarantine" as the end of the CNN article makes it out to be.
magickmaker
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THis is interesting. I'm head investigator for SEPI, South East Paranormal Investigations.
In fact...in a few days we'll be investigating a haunted Cemetery in Uvalda Georgia. Afterward we're going to be working along the old Georgia Florida RY which is said to be haunted around where an accident occurred in the 20's.
Investigations will be posted on youtube, so I'll provide linkage.
In fact...in a few days we'll be investigating a haunted Cemetery in Uvalda Georgia. Afterward we're going to be working along the old Georgia Florida RY which is said to be haunted around where an accident occurred in the 20's.
Investigations will be posted on youtube, so I'll provide linkage.
cascaderailroad
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The White Lady of Wopsy Mountain: Various urban legends exist worldwide.
Near Altoona on Buckhorn road is a hairpin curve caled Devils Elbow, that they say once had a terrible horse and carriage accident going over the cliff. The husband and infant were thrown from the carriage and killed. And in the dark of the night, if you see a lady in white walking down the road in search of her lost family, if you give her a ride in your car, when you look in your rear view mirror, she is invisible in the back seat.
meeP !
AHhHhH !:hehe: TeeHee 
Pbtttttttt !
The Wopsy (Wopsononock RR) was located nearby
The Lost Cox Childern, were two siblings who wandered off from their parents farm in the 1800's. They followed Bob's Creek hoping that they would find their way back to civilization. Their starved bodies were found less than a quarter mile from a distant farmhouse. There is a stone monument to them, sitting alone, in the dark erie woods today !
RR accidents such as Bennington Curve wreck of the Red Arrow, and Allegripus Curve, as well as many more near Altoona, the Great Johnstown Flood, as well as the wreck of the Shackamaxon near Fort Washington Pa, claimed the lives of hundereds or passengers throughout history ... but I have never seen a ghost there, but the places are kinda spooky, if you are railfaning there, in the dark, in the night !
BoooOOOOOooooooooooo !
Near Altoona on Buckhorn road is a hairpin curve caled Devils Elbow, that they say once had a terrible horse and carriage accident going over the cliff. The husband and infant were thrown from the carriage and killed. And in the dark of the night, if you see a lady in white walking down the road in search of her lost family, if you give her a ride in your car, when you look in your rear view mirror, she is invisible in the back seat.
meeP ! AHhHhH !:hehe: TeeHee Pbtttttttt !The Wopsy (Wopsononock RR) was located nearby
The Lost Cox Childern, were two siblings who wandered off from their parents farm in the 1800's. They followed Bob's Creek hoping that they would find their way back to civilization. Their starved bodies were found less than a quarter mile from a distant farmhouse. There is a stone monument to them, sitting alone, in the dark erie woods today !
RR accidents such as Bennington Curve wreck of the Red Arrow, and Allegripus Curve, as well as many more near Altoona, the Great Johnstown Flood, as well as the wreck of the Shackamaxon near Fort Washington Pa, claimed the lives of hundereds or passengers throughout history ... but I have never seen a ghost there, but the places are kinda spooky, if you are railfaning there, in the dark, in the night !
BoooO
OOOOooooooooooo !
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cascaderailroad
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Thought I'd bump this as Halloween is aproaching soon.
I need advice whether to put NG, or SG track on the Wopsy RR near Altoona. http://wopsylady.webs.com/apps/photos/
They had Heislers and other NG equipment prior to 1900, but it was later SG. I suppose that 36" gauge was what it was in its early years. What gauge would you like it to be done with ? 1000cm_grass, MP Rusty, or MP-Wood v2
I need advice whether to put NG, or SG track on the Wopsy RR near Altoona. http://wopsylady.webs.com/apps/photos/
They had Heislers and other NG equipment prior to 1900, but it was later SG. I suppose that 36" gauge was what it was in its early years. What gauge would you like it to be done with ? 1000cm_grass, MP Rusty, or MP-Wood v2
Back on the ghost stories, i've got one that will make your hair curl. Worst of all, it's TRUE.
At the model railroad shop i go to, there is a man i have gotten to know well. he was in the air force in the 1960's, stationed at Wiesbaden in Germany. A few miles down the rail line that served the base was a siding that ended in a mssive mound of dirt. good for stopping cars, but not much else. this siding was used to store the cars for the base while the train worked the town of Wiesbaden, but the siding was too short and the crew always had to keep one or two cars with the engine. so one day, the engineer said to this man "We could take a hundred yards off this hill" speaking of the siding, "And it would solve all our problems."
long story short, they went off to do it, and found that the hill was no hill but in fact a rail bunker from WWII. strangely enough, there was a train in it. the German crews from Duetsche Bundesbahn estimated it had been in there the last six months of the war. it was an engine (the man said he thought the engine was a Class 52 Kriegslok) fifteen four-wheel boxcars, and two guard cars.
here's where the scary part comes in. the engine crew and the guards were still aboard the train, dead, mumified. the train was chased into the bunker by P-51 Mustangs, and as it entered, one of them dropped its two bombs. they missed, but they blew the top of the hill and it slid down, covering the entrance. the crew couldn't get the fire out quick enough and the carbon dioxide suffocated the crew and guards.
needless to say, they carted off the bodies for a proper war veteran's burial, then one man opened one of the boxcars. they had green crosses on the doors, and when he opened them, and others opened the rest, they were found to contain Tabun 88mm poison gas shells. they were probably being taken west to hide them from the Russians. they were carted off too. the bunker was re-covered, and now the siding is completely buried, the train still hidden inside.
At the model railroad shop i go to, there is a man i have gotten to know well. he was in the air force in the 1960's, stationed at Wiesbaden in Germany. A few miles down the rail line that served the base was a siding that ended in a mssive mound of dirt. good for stopping cars, but not much else. this siding was used to store the cars for the base while the train worked the town of Wiesbaden, but the siding was too short and the crew always had to keep one or two cars with the engine. so one day, the engineer said to this man "We could take a hundred yards off this hill" speaking of the siding, "And it would solve all our problems."
long story short, they went off to do it, and found that the hill was no hill but in fact a rail bunker from WWII. strangely enough, there was a train in it. the German crews from Duetsche Bundesbahn estimated it had been in there the last six months of the war. it was an engine (the man said he thought the engine was a Class 52 Kriegslok) fifteen four-wheel boxcars, and two guard cars.
here's where the scary part comes in. the engine crew and the guards were still aboard the train, dead, mumified. the train was chased into the bunker by P-51 Mustangs, and as it entered, one of them dropped its two bombs. they missed, but they blew the top of the hill and it slid down, covering the entrance. the crew couldn't get the fire out quick enough and the carbon dioxide suffocated the crew and guards.
needless to say, they carted off the bodies for a proper war veteran's burial, then one man opened one of the boxcars. they had green crosses on the doors, and when he opened them, and others opened the rest, they were found to contain Tabun 88mm poison gas shells. they were probably being taken west to hide them from the Russians. they were carted off too. the bunker was re-covered, and now the siding is completely buried, the train still hidden inside.
TweetsieDude
Back Woods Narrow Gauge
I don't think anyone was killed on the ET&WNC ROW? From the books I've read, they've not stated if anyone was killed during construction, or main line work.....but there is a story of a mad engineer of the line that killed him self, I'm not sure if you've heard about that stemwinder?
Rock On!
Dusten
Rock On!
Dusten
um, no, but i've heard of a strange headlight swinging wildly around Calico Cut on the C&TS, supposedly the headlight of a long-dead 4-4-0 or 4-6-0 (i can't remember which) that was rammed by a class 56 2-8-0 one night. supposedly some of the wood of the ten-wheeler's (or eight wheeler's) coaches is still down in the gorge. If you beleive some o the old timers, the engine is still down there too.
Are there any ghosts, haunted houses, and other paranormal stuff for Trainz? If so, why not?
Sure, Trainz (and the Internet) is "serious business", but as a fellow named Jack once typed, "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy."
An eerie ghost, that randomly appears, would be nice. So would a haunted house, in which ghost are sometimes visible in the windows at night. Or a ghostly light, from the lantern of the ghost brakeman who walks the tracks at night, searching for something of great importance.
But a Trainz model of Abraham Lincoln's Ghost Train would be even better...
More info: Lincoln's Funeral Train
Sure, Trainz (and the Internet) is "serious business", but as a fellow named Jack once typed, "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy."
An eerie ghost, that randomly appears, would be nice. So would a haunted house, in which ghost are sometimes visible in the windows at night. Or a ghostly light, from the lantern of the ghost brakeman who walks the tracks at night, searching for something of great importance.
But a Trainz model of Abraham Lincoln's Ghost Train would be even better...
More info: Lincoln's Funeral Train
I can give you quite a few ghost stories involving trains...Sit right back and you'll hear a tale...oh wait wrong story....
First...Dread 107
The D&RG had purchased an order in 1883, and the locomotive purchased was 107. The trouble began with a bridge washout in Black Eagle Canyon killing the Engineer and Fireman, then another engineer and fireman, along with several passengers were killed when it struck a bolder outside of Gunnison Colorado. It then killed a hobo when it was transferred to the Salt lake City to Ogden Utah run. Next it Killed 5 railroad workers when it hit head-on into another train. At this point, The Crews started to carve a "death list" into the cab which resulted in yet another death, when the engineer was reading over the list, he went insane, threw his own Brother (the fireman) from the cab and let it run away, pinning himself when she derailed. They were getting worried, so they changed the number (which usually breaks the curse) and it worked, for awhile. She hit a washout, and was renumbered for some reason back to 107. Awhile after this, she then hit a gravel train, and killed 5 more railroaders, which resulted in no one wanting to work on her, resulting in her scrapping in 1908. Although, She can still be heard outside of Montrose and Grand Junction Colorado. (thank you "Ghost train" written by Tony Reevy")
First...Dread 107
The D&RG had purchased an order in 1883, and the locomotive purchased was 107. The trouble began with a bridge washout in Black Eagle Canyon killing the Engineer and Fireman, then another engineer and fireman, along with several passengers were killed when it struck a bolder outside of Gunnison Colorado. It then killed a hobo when it was transferred to the Salt lake City to Ogden Utah run. Next it Killed 5 railroad workers when it hit head-on into another train. At this point, The Crews started to carve a "death list" into the cab which resulted in yet another death, when the engineer was reading over the list, he went insane, threw his own Brother (the fireman) from the cab and let it run away, pinning himself when she derailed. They were getting worried, so they changed the number (which usually breaks the curse) and it worked, for awhile. She hit a washout, and was renumbered for some reason back to 107. Awhile after this, she then hit a gravel train, and killed 5 more railroaders, which resulted in no one wanting to work on her, resulting in her scrapping in 1908. Although, She can still be heard outside of Montrose and Grand Junction Colorado. (thank you "Ghost train" written by Tony Reevy")
wow, that's spooky. I know of one from the Katy...not as cursed as 107, but still very strange. The 4-4-0 number 88 was unlucky. she had hit several farm animals, rolled herself on her side with only minor damage (she was only moving at slow speed 5-8mph). In the end, her luck would cost her her life. one night, as she left North Franklin with the midnight mail bound for Kansas City, her throttle jammed wide open, so when she prepared to stop for Rocheport, her throttle went limp. the linkage snapped with the valve open wide. her crew tried everything, but eventually their only option was to douse the fire and use up the steam so the brakes could work. she was only fitted with straight brakes and hand brakes with old, worn shoes and her crew knew that. Their only hope was to brake and unpowered engine.
There was a reason for their worry. not being able to stop at Rocheport meant they were ahead of schedule and the swing bridge at Boonville would be open for river traffic. a steamboat was coming up river and would be under the bridge when they reached it. if they didn't stop her before the bridge there would be no time to swing the span closed.
they couldn't.
Just before the bridge is a slight dip in the track profile and with number 88's worn brake shoes she couldn't stop herself. she wasn't under power but was still moving at a pretty good clip, and accelerated down the hill and up onto the bridge. her crew jumped clear as the 4-4-0 and six mail coaches plunged into the river off the end of the bridge. supposedly, she's still down there, buried in the muck of the missouri river...
okay, i have to admit, that's actually from a story i wrote once about a ghost train called the Demon Jay Gould. the end story is that, if you see number 88 (the Jay Gould) or her train, you will meet an unfortunate end and ride her train off the bridge and down to the depths of hell. the scary part is that, despite the engine's frantic motion from her stuck throttle, not a single sound from the pistons or the boiler is heard. no hissing steam, no chuff, nothing. just the whistle and the bell the crew kept blowing and ringing loudly to warn anyone who might be on the track that they couldn't stop. spooky, right?
There was a reason for their worry. not being able to stop at Rocheport meant they were ahead of schedule and the swing bridge at Boonville would be open for river traffic. a steamboat was coming up river and would be under the bridge when they reached it. if they didn't stop her before the bridge there would be no time to swing the span closed.
they couldn't.
Just before the bridge is a slight dip in the track profile and with number 88's worn brake shoes she couldn't stop herself. she wasn't under power but was still moving at a pretty good clip, and accelerated down the hill and up onto the bridge. her crew jumped clear as the 4-4-0 and six mail coaches plunged into the river off the end of the bridge. supposedly, she's still down there, buried in the muck of the missouri river...
okay, i have to admit, that's actually from a story i wrote once about a ghost train called the Demon Jay Gould. the end story is that, if you see number 88 (the Jay Gould) or her train, you will meet an unfortunate end and ride her train off the bridge and down to the depths of hell. the scary part is that, despite the engine's frantic motion from her stuck throttle, not a single sound from the pistons or the boiler is heard. no hissing steam, no chuff, nothing. just the whistle and the bell the crew kept blowing and ringing loudly to warn anyone who might be on the track that they couldn't stop. spooky, right?
http://www.legendsofamerica.com/co-marshallpass.html The Ghost Train of Marshall Pass Colorado....
Screaming Jenny of Harpers Ferry http://americanfolklore.net/folklore/2010/07/screaming_jenny.html
The Vander Light http://www.creepync.com/hauntings/ghost/vander-light
Screaming Jenny of Harpers Ferry http://americanfolklore.net/folklore/2010/07/screaming_jenny.html
The Vander Light http://www.creepync.com/hauntings/ghost/vander-light
D9007_Pinza
Murringo's shed foreman
Bold St bridge in Granville is one place that sends chills up my spine every time I pass under it on a train, as it was there that the old bridge collapsed onto cars 3 and 4 of the 6:09am interurban service from Mt Victoria after it derailed and demolished the stanchions supporting the bridge and an catenary stanchion, which remained attached to the overhead wires and swung back cutting through the body of the first carriage in the train, killing 88 people in total back in January 1977.
A bad place that creeps me out is this siding near my house. its in an industrial park and is unused, but is crammed with old railcars. There's a Milwaukee Ribbed-side bay window caboose there and i swear i saw one of the old Twin Cities Hiawatha cars hidng behind a building. you know, the ones like we have built into trainz default? It's not spooky because anyone died there or anything, its just spooky because there's all this history seemingly forgotten. all the cars have a good coating of rust from years of neglect. look on steamlocomotive.info in missouri and you'll see there's an old 0-4-0 tied to a flatcar in pieces. I've never found her, but i want to. just don't have the courage to walk back in between the buildings.
Moonville Tunnel
There's the ghost of the Moonville Tunnel in Zaleski State Forest in the Hocking Hills of Ohio.
http://www.hauntedhocking.com/Moonville_Tunnel.htm
http://www.forgottenoh.com/moonville.html
-- Russ
There's the ghost of the Moonville Tunnel in Zaleski State Forest in the Hocking Hills of Ohio.
http://www.hauntedhocking.com/Moonville_Tunnel.htm
http://www.forgottenoh.com/moonville.html
-- Russ
cascaderailroad
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Man I just love urban legands.
There is someone that has posted that he will pay $ 1,000,000 to anyone that can give conclusive indisputable proof that ghosts, bigfoot, Nessie, aliens, and or UFO's exist. And he will never find a payee to collect his challenging wager...because there are none ... spooks and extraterrestials (unless they are already here) ... BoOO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax2doUR1Su0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4peDtxLazU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAboGO9MDsQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oatNK2tK6vM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Zg...I3JZKe8zKK4JECWldRRpB-3J-po8pa2W5snS84qPt0Hh9_
There was a RR tunnel was being cut by a chain gang ... one day while crossing the river in boats ... all of them chained together ... one of the boats capsized ... dragging all of them to a watery grave ... the bodies are burried above the tunnel, and it is rumored that the tunnel drippings are the chain gangs tears.
There is someone that has posted that he will pay $ 1,000,000 to anyone that can give conclusive indisputable proof that ghosts, bigfoot, Nessie, aliens, and or UFO's exist. And he will never find a payee to collect his challenging wager...because there are none ... spooks and extraterrestials (unless they are already here) ... BoOO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax2doUR1Su0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4peDtxLazU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAboGO9MDsQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oatNK2tK6vM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Zg...I3JZKe8zKK4JECWldRRpB-3J-po8pa2W5snS84qPt0Hh9_
There was a RR tunnel was being cut by a chain gang ... one day while crossing the river in boats ... all of them chained together ... one of the boats capsized ... dragging all of them to a watery grave ... the bodies are burried above the tunnel, and it is rumored that the tunnel drippings are the chain gangs tears.
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