Old Fitchburg 2-8-0
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simulatortrain
jointed freaking rails
Not Me although I do agree it does not look like a normal 2-8-0 but it is from I'm looking at in the photo that the locomotive is a 4ft 1/2 or standard gauge.
I've never heard of 4ft 1/2" gauge, but if you meant 4'8 1/2" gauge, that is standard.
It just looks like it has huge wheels Nick.
Well in the mid 19th century, the more wheels you wanted, the bigger the locmotive had to be You have to remember, the standard locomotive, the American type, mostly have very large wheels. It seems to me logical the locomotive builders would use the same wheel castings for larger locomotives, hence the seemingly large wheels.
simulatortrain
jointed freaking rails
I did a quick photo-kitbash into a 2-6-0 and the proportions look better, so you are probably right.
CincySouthernRwy
Trainz Jedi
It looks normal for its time period. I'd guess it was 1870's or 1880's. Things were much fancier and gaudily out-of-scale back then. That diamond stack alone tells you it was a wood burner, something that was going extinct by the 1890's. And it was huge, let alone the one on the Central Pacific's Jupiter photgraphed at Promontory Point, Utah.
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Here's some info:
It was built by the Fitchburg RR, which eventually became part of the B&M in the mid 1800s. The 116 is listed as a 4-8-0?. See the website for the information.
[FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]116[/FONT][FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]4-4-0[/FONT][FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]63in[/FONT][FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]17x24in[/FONT][FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]160psi[/FONT][FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]27t[/FONT][FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]43t[/FONT][FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]16sq.ft.[/FONT][FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]1350sq.ft.[/FONT][FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]none[/FONT]
http://orion.math.iastate.edu/jdhsmith/term/slusfitc.htm
The main site.
http://orion.math.iastate.edu/jdhsmith/term/slindex.htm
It was built by the Fitchburg RR, which eventually became part of the B&M in the mid 1800s. The 116 is listed as a 4-8-0?. See the website for the information.
[FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]116[/FONT][FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]4-4-0[/FONT][FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]63in[/FONT][FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]17x24in[/FONT][FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]160psi[/FONT][FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]27t[/FONT][FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]43t[/FONT][FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]16sq.ft.[/FONT][FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]1350sq.ft.[/FONT][FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]none[/FONT]
http://orion.math.iastate.edu/jdhsmith/term/slusfitc.htm
The main site.
http://orion.math.iastate.edu/jdhsmith/term/slindex.htm
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colorado71
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It is a typical Consolidation (2-8-0) from 19th century. Here you can see the first Consolidation locomotive, from 1866:
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u45/scottychaos/Black-Diamond/700-consolidation.jpg
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u45/scottychaos/Black-Diamond/700-consolidation.jpg
Anybody know the History behind this Engine? It sure doesn't look like a Normal 2-8-0...
colorado71
Well-known member
Yes, I am speaking about this link
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u45/scottychaos/Black-Diamond/700-consolidation.jpg
where can be seen the first Consolidation machine, built by Baldwin Locomotive Works for Lehigh Valley Railroad, in 1866.
It can be seen also in some books like
Baldwin locomotive works. Illustrated catalogue of locomotives
or in the
History of the Baldwin Locomotive Works, 1831-1920
available in both .djvu and .pdf formats at
www.archive.com
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u45/scottychaos/Black-Diamond/700-consolidation.jpg
where can be seen the first Consolidation machine, built by Baldwin Locomotive Works for Lehigh Valley Railroad, in 1866.
It can be seen also in some books like
Baldwin locomotive works. Illustrated catalogue of locomotives
or in the
History of the Baldwin Locomotive Works, 1831-1920
available in both .djvu and .pdf formats at
www.archive.com
Well,it may have been the first 2-8-0 in the northeast but the Lehigh Valley had the first 2-8-0 named 'consolidation in that year running on their railroad line and the locomotive was built by Baldwin.
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Really, I don't think the drivers are that big for a consolidation. Maybe if you compare it to a shortline consolidation's drivers. TVRM 610 has 57" drivers, as well as 630 which was a turn of the century mainline consolidation. What makes it look most different is the cab. They made the cabs much smaller than what a later engine would have. The overall design isn't too much unlike Southern Railway's H-4's of 1907. To me, it's just a normal locomotive.
http://southern.railfan.net/images/archive/southern/steam/cons/h/sou399.html
http://southern.railfan.net/images/archive/southern/steam/cons/h/sou391.html
http://southern.railfan.net/images/archive/southern/steam/cons/h/sou399.html
http://southern.railfan.net/images/archive/southern/steam/cons/h/sou391.html
when you mentioned the 116 as a 4-8-0? No that was a 4-4-0 american locomotive!
the 500 however is a 4-8-0 mastodon locomotive.
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when you mentioned the 116 as a 4-8-0? No that was a 4-4-0 american locomotive!
the 500 however is a 4-8-0 mastodon locomotive.
My slip of the finger....
John