Northbay Country Narrow Gauge

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TorenHynes

The Maple Leaf Forever
The NCNG railroad is great isn't it? I am just wondering if this railroad really exists and if so where. If it's prototypical (my guess is that it's prototypical) I wonder what part of the world this railroad was modeled after.
Is this railroad included with TS2010 or not?
 
Toren

I'm sorry, Northbay County is entirely fictional. We, the group, are flattered that you should think it might be real. We are also proud that we made the only narrow gauge route that Auran has ever supplied with a Trainz version.

NV3 are looking for routes at the moment, surely there must be a narrow gauge route out there suitable for submission.

Peter
 
Hi Toren,

Incidentally, a friend of mine years back when this map came out did some digging round the Internet and found a Northbay mining area up in Canada I think, and though the route was based on that area. :)
But, as Peter say so well, it is not, I think the ground is build on a partly DEM from California but not to sure about that part, memory fades away.

And, to end it all, the island of Gossen, here in Norway, we actually have a island called Gossen on the middle west part of our country, but that is also just a coincident. :)

As Peter, I am also proud of the project I took part in, thanks guys!!

Linda
 
Hi Toren,

No, not really, the ground as in the hills and valleys (including the ocean bottom) I think started out as a DEM part from California, but the water parts are freelanced, the rails are freelances, the trees are freelances.
The towns are freelanced, the whole map is a fully freelanced map.

But, the name Northbay - which was suggested by the group as a name on a bay I at first called Norway bay (being Norwegian and proud of it I tried to sneak my country in there :p) - came as a result of trying to simplify the names, and thanks to my friend long after the map been out digging up a place in Canada I learned about the name actually also being a real place with a mining connection.
But, that was an "accident", not the idea or plan at all!

The route plan was a group effort based on the idea I think to get the most out of a small area to model and the most interesting type of traffic for a map to be used in Trainz, and then it went from there.

I wrote a fiction background story for the 2-foot gauge and the Gossen Island, but it has since for years been off the Internet as it seemed to be a non interesting history other then for me and possible a couple of others. :)

Hope this was of some interest?
And I did not mess up some of the facts guys?

Linda
 
No, Linda, that is exactly as I remember it.

I wonder whether any one has built onto the 'main line' three foot for which Northbay was the terminus. All that gold and timber had to go somewhere.

Peter
 
Hi Peter,

Thanks!

I actually toyed with the idea of adding in the "old mainline" which my story mentioned, but it has never come to a fully model. :sleep:
I also made a different Gossen Island as a start for a fun project, but that also has halted into nothing.

But, maybe your words have made someone pay attention, or even "unhide" someone doing what you mention. :wave:

I kinda miss the NG bug and the Trainz bug, but so far the forum seems to be enough for me.
Keeping busy collecting Cripple Creek images and hoping for the time my mind can settle down and crack up some models again...

Linda
 
I always kind of had my feelings that this railroad was fictional, despite its realistic looks...
Despite that I still like it a lot...it's my favorite railroad in Trainz 2006!!!
I think that the old Lucky mill doesn't produce gold, and that building a town onto it might be a good idea...how about extending the mainline by a few miles, and having a large town at the end, where it joins onto something like Klinger's Timber Ridge Line.
 
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This discussion has prompted a thought. If we assume that Northbay is in the USA then we have a 'First'. The Garratt on the Gossen line is the first and only Garratt to work in the US. While Garratts were used in nearly every country in the world, they never made it into the US. Pity, they could have competed with the Shays etc very effectively, and they were a much more efficient design than the Mallets for long heavy hauls at higher speeds.

Peter
 
narrowgauge said:
This discussion has prompted a thought. If we assume that Northbay is in the USA then we have a 'First'. The Garratt on the Gossen line is the first and only Garratt to work in the US. While Garratts were used in nearly every country in the world, they never made it into the US. Pity, they could have competed with the Shays etc very effectively, and they were a much more efficient design than the Mallets for long heavy hauls at higher speeds.

Peter
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Remember anything is possible in our world. Right now I'm working on my hometown and have rebuilt a long abandoned branch line. This is what's so cool about our hobby. :D

I also run Australian and British equipment on my Enfield and Eastern. No one knows the difference except for me. Remember many railroads import equipment as a "trial", but never put them into full use. My local rail line imported the Spanish Talgo train for use on Amtrak's Downeaster, but this never went into full use due to many reasons. Today they run a standard trainset of Horizon cars and a Genesis.

The Northbay is one of my favorite routes too, and I've imported it into TS12 so I can continue to enjoy it. :D

John
 
narrowgauge said:
.... The Garratt on the Gossen line is the first and only Garratt to work in the US....
Peter
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Actually not quite true. According to Durrant (Garrratt Locomotives of the World 1987) the Hempstead and Northern Railroad in Texas had a secondhand ex-South African NGG13 at the time of publication. Whether it still exists I don't know.
 
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To begin with, you are a couple of spoilers, shame on you both.

I knew about the H&NR but as this is a private line it does not count. Especially so as this would not be a 'working' loco, more like a hobby.

Our Garratt is a NGG11, it was in America probably before that Texan millionaire was born, and worked it's guts out on inclines that a Shay and Climax would find difficult. Ours was one of the first batch, built in 1919 and was diverted to America.

One final twist, our Garratt was built in England by Garratt, the following ones were built by other makers and thus are not true Garratts, just Garratt types.

That is our story and we are sticking to it.

Peter
 
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narrowgauge said:
To begin with, you are both a couple of spoilers, shame on you.

I knew about the H&NR but as this is a private line it does not count. Especially so as this would not be a 'working' loco, more like a hobby.

Our Garratt is a NGG11, it was in America probably before that Texan millionaire was born, and worked it's guts out on inclines that a Shay and Climax would find difficult. Ours was one of the first batch, built in 1919 and was diverted to America.

One final twist, our Garratt was built in England by Garratt, the following ones were built by other makers and thus are not true Garratts, just Garratt types.

That is our story and we are sticking to it.

Peter
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I like your story! :D

These are the real man's Garratt locos; not those knock offs!

John
 
Sounds a believable story to me, modelling the Welsh Highland I tend to have a soft spot for Garratts, besides the US ones are recent imports, pretty much as the WHR ones are. Not sure where the NG11 I occasionally run up the Aberglaslyn pass came from though. ;)
 
Did Garrats ever come to Canada, even if they didn't come to the USA?
Also, most later Garrats than the 1920s were made by Beyer Peacock, if I'm not mistaken.
 
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Toren

There is nothing listed for Canada, not even rich mans toys. Once the Garratt patents ran out Garratt format locos were made by quite a number of companies, not just Beyer-Peacock.

Peter
 
As far as I have read, Beyer Peacock made a lot of the African Garrats, such as the GMA/M of the SAR and the EAR 59th class.
 
Toren

Agreed, but Garratts were used worldwide and made by a variety of companies including the rail companies themselves, not just Beyer Peacock.

On the subject of the DLS NGG11, I have updated that to TS12, uploaded it, and it is waiting to be approved.

Peter
 
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