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sawyer811

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Okay, so i recently got into 42in gauge (thank you keimei and your wonderful C56 2-6-0:D) and and currently building a small estate railway in that gauge. but i have a question.

I'm running both NZR and JNR equipment (I finally caved and downloaded billegulla's K 4-8-4) and have downloaded boxcars, tankers, flats, and coaches, but are there any 42in gondolas or covered wagons (covered hoppers) around?

It's somewhat of a stupid question, i know, but remember, this is coming from the yank from the land of the 3ft gauge (914mm!) I just want a more interesting train than all boxcars.
 
If you are looking for 42" stock that is different. look around this site.

http://www.trainzone.co.nz

For an estate railway, I would have gone for 30" or 24", 42" is mainline size in several countries and does seem a trifle large.

Peter
 
that is true, but remember, here in america, we like to do everything bigger:wave: the backstory is a wealthy landowner was smitten by the Washington K88 in New Zealand and imported several engines from around the world, from both New Zealand and Japan. So it's not so much an "estate railway" in the classical sense as a place to run a collection. I know of one like this in Texas.

and i'll troll trainzone too. i was just there but was only around the NZR page. never hurts to look twice.
 
There is tons of content from South Africa, 42in gauge

Cruise down to my website, and see the range of locos, coaches/cars, wagons, just tons !!!

Edit: I also have a 42in gauge Challenger, now thats a must have !!
 
Apert from the NZ stuff there are what would probably be called 0-6+6-0 Kitson Meyer tank locos from the Chilean nitrate railways and the associated rolling stock. In the present day, I don't think there is a preserved and working Kitson Meyer loco anywhere so your landowner tycoon would have a real rarity to play with.

Peter
 
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JohnSB made a number of WAGR items in 3'6" gauge for 04 which are on the DLS - such as a D class 4 wheel closed van and a GS class 4 wheel open wagon. I think he was making a G class steam loco as well, but I think the project was abandoned sadly.

Do a search on the DLS for 'Westrail' or 'WAGR' and you should find them quickly enough. :)

EDIT: and apparently, there was once existed an example of a commercial 3'6" gauge line in the US too (well, a tramway/streetcar line) - the so-called 'Yellow Car' route in LA which lasted until the late 50's/early 60's I think. I was surprised to read about it to find that 3'6" gauge was actually used in the US. :D
 
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Enkidoh said:
JohnSB made a number of WAGR items in 3'6" gauge for 04 which are on the DLS - such as a D class 4 wheel closed van and a GS class 4 wheel open wagon. I think he was making a G class steam loco as well, but I think the project was abandoned sadly.

Do a search on the DLS for 'Westrail' or 'WAGR' and you should find them quickly enough. :)

EDIT: and apparently, there was once existed an example of a commercial 3'6" gauge line in the US too (well, a tramway/streetcar line) - the so-called 'Yellow Car' route in LA which lasted until the late 50's/early 60's I think. I was surprised to read about it to find that 3'6" gauge was actually used in the US. :D
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i've heard of that trolley line; and apparently a tourist line in california owns one or two of their cars, plus a cute 0-4-0. she had saddle tanks at one point, but without them, i think she looks better. :D

narrowgauge said:
Apert from the NZ stuff there are what would probably be called 0-6+6-0 Kitson Meyer tank locos from the Chilean nitrate railways and the associated rolling stock. In the present day, I don't think there is a preserved and working Kitson Meyer loco anywhere so your landowner tycoon would have a real rarity to play with.

Peter
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actually...

http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=245

as i understand it, this is a 2ft Kiston-Meyer. In my twisted version of the prototype (i generally freelance anyway) the one that actually imported these engines was this current man's grandfather (side note, the current man is me:D) who brought them in in the 1950's and 60's as they were retired. That would be how they were explained away.

In any case, this is trainz, and, just like Model railroading (which i also do) you have the ability to alter history at will. its just make believe anyway.
 
I have been through the Donald Binns history of the Kitson Meyer company amd locomotives and there is no mention of a look-alike from Bagnall even though the book was published as a revised edition in 2003 and the Bagnall loco was made in 1946. I did search on the site for the South American locos and it had nothing, a whole heap of locomotive history ignored. It may be an 0-6+6-0 type but not a Kitson Meyer.

Fascinating locos, I think that in many respects they were superior to the Garratt.

Peter
 
hmm...I've heard it called a kiston-meyer, a mallet, depends on who you talk to. I guess it's a mallet then. strange, i thought i heard she had connected driver sets.

this is a better picture, maybe someone can tell me if i'm nuts or not?

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the front driver set should be reversed and sitting where those timbers are. sorry, this is the best shot i have.
 
If both bogies swivel then it is a Kitson Meyer look-alike, if the rear bogie is fixed it is probably a Mallet. One thing, the description is wrong, if the rear bogie anything to go by it is an 0-4+4-0, you can see that the rear bogie only has two coupled wheel sets. The coupling rod tells the tale.

KM started off with the cylinders in the centre and then changed fairly early on to have the cylinders on the outer ends of the bogies with an additional funnel on the rear of the body for the rear bogie steam exhaust.

After looking for more evidence, I think the rear bogie does swivel, there is no attachment for the coupling on the main frame, so it is a KM look-alike but not a true KM. It would be a nice one to model, I wish I had the time.

Peter
 
Forgive a poor guy who doesn't know anything about prototypical railroads, but are 42" the same as 3'6"?
 
Sampug394 said:
That there's 2ft gauge. Not 42inch.
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I know that, i was just using her as an example. I heard her called a Kiston-Meyer once and when narrowgauge said there wasn't a preseved K-M, i brought her up. If you read the post where i put the link to her on steam locomotive info, i specifically say "a 2ft kiston meyer."

olpe said:
Forgive a poor guy who doesn't know anything about prototypical railroads, but are 42" the same as 3'6"?
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forgive me for being blunt, but yes, that's the same. 3ft=36". 36"+6"=42":D
 
sawyer811 said:
forgive me for being blunt, but yes, that's the same. 3ft=36". 36"+6"=42":D
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Haha. Being from the metric world, I have no clue about those ' and "'s :hehe: . Thanks.

And by the way, that also answered my question if 3ft6in is the same as 36" :o ...
 
I too have gotten bit by the NG bug ! Most NG RR's in Pennsylvania were 36" such as the Wopsononock RR and the EBT RR.

I am using Pencil42's 36 Inch chunky mesh track (I modified the TGA file to get rid of double spikes, and added some higher detail to the rail, tieplates, and ties).

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I am going to contact Pencil42 and give him my CDP of his track that I made modifications to, so that he may choose whether distribute it.
 
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