Need help with Pilbara DEM

I have got the dem into trainz but when merging another part which half a baseboard out of alignment:confused::(

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I am nearly going to give up at doing DEMs:'(
 
I wouldn't give up just yet trammiejono,It looks like you are very close lol.Have you tried sending a PM or Email to another Aussie Trainzer by the name of Jerker he is the expert with Aussie DEM's ( Not sure if he uses Transdem or Microdem ).Jerker is also a member at Victrainz.I would like to see any Aussie Iron Ore Route made so i hope you succeed.
Cheers Mick.:cool:
 
Get out the belt sander and smooth out the bumps...it is close enough...no one will ever know that the RR line is not perfect exactly matching the actual prototype terrain. Perfection is one thing...but obsession with absolute perfection is another. Lay track by eye and guestimate...it's only a game. It looks like a very outback desolate RR line.
 
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Get out the belt sander and smooth out the bumps...it is close enough...no one will ever know that the RR line is not perfect exactly matching the actual prototype terrain. Perfection is one thing...but obsession with absolute perfection is another. Lay track by eye and guestimate...it's only a game. It looks like a very outback desolate RR line.
Well I guess you are right it is close enough and it beats hand forming the terrian in surveyor.
 
dont panic

sometimes this happens,you get seemless joins and sometimes you dont
dont think generating routes using a programmes is easy sailing
looks like you have to merge the route to the left and do a bit of manual work
dont for get to trim you route of excess baseboards
been mucking around with this for a while now and nothing easy

cheers,
patchy
 
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The reasons for the alignment of sections not matching up is that the DEMs are flat, and the Earth is round. So, when you mix two DEM sections together, there will always be a slight issue as flat DEM tiles cannot match up with a (relatively) spherical Earth.

The only thing you can do is to smooth out the areas, really. A shame, but no other option. I don't think that in the long run anybody will notice, as it's only going to be slight sections of the map which won't quite have the perfect form... Just where the DEM tiles join together.
 
Mate,

If you like give me a yell and I can send you the track profile for Rio Tinto (HI) Pilbara Rail.

Has all the sidings, signal locations, grade etc

Work for them on the railway so can give you any info you need!

:)
 
I have got the dem into trainz but when merging another part which half a baseboard out of alignment:confused::(

I am nearly going to give up at doing DEMs:'(

The MicroDEM/HOG approach is not easiest one to control if it comes to merging DEM-based terrain modules in Trainz Surveyor. Since HOG does not know about geographic coordinates, the baseboards created don't either.

TransDEM (mentioned above) maintains a fix mapping between UTM coordinates and baseboard borders. This allows seamless merging of individually created DEM-based modules (provided the user defines a common border). MapMaker is similar in this respect, as far as I know.
 
Everybody wants a DEM...If you had a DEM the size of my route...you would change your mind. Some parts of Pennsylvania have a very twisted and mountainous topography. While other places in Pennsylvania would not be worthy of a DEM, as the topography is relitively flat or has a bland rolling countryside.

Trainz and Model Railroads, are just scenes and lines on a map, it doesn't have to be real.

A real life to scale line of the Pilbara region might just be humps & bumps in a neverending rolling plain ? I am not familiar with the area though !

I am sure that an Ohio or Indiana DEM would be equally mundane as it is relativly flat.

To make a RR scene or conglomerate of scenes, you need not go into the obsessive compulsive chore of replicating the RR line exactly inch for inch.

If I had to do my route all over again...I would condence the many, many scenes, and only replicate the really important highlights like: Phila Greenwich Yard, Zoo Interlocking, Paoli Yard, Lancaster (Strasburg RR), Harrisburg-Enola Yard, Lewistown, Tyrone, Altoona, Horseshoe-Muleshoe Curve(s), MG Tower, Cresson, Cassandra, Johnstown, Bolvair, CP Conpit, Pitcairn Yard, Pittsburgh. And all in condenced and merged @ 200 baseboards.

Sometimes I think driving a real to scale RR line from Phila all the way to Pittsburgh would be repiticious scenery, much too lengthly, and quite boring in full scale.

We have a local group of railfans (Yahoo Groups-Altoona Johnstown) who year in and year out, they chase each and every train up and over the mountain, writing down all the car numbers, and take note of exactly which way #3365 is facing now, and taking millions of redundant photographs of exactly the same looking train that someone has photographed a million times over and over...WoW...just WoW...talk about Obsessive Compulsive...it's just a train...a fun hobby...not to be made so overly serious.
 
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I am really just about to give up the dems are not mtching up at seams and leaving 1-5 baseboard gaps:'(
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As mentioned above, MicroDEM/HOG is not the ideal set of tools to accomplish this. The only reasonable way of merging DEMs here would be in MicroDEM itself. Then create only one module. If your project area is too large for this, the alternative is a different software package. Don't blame the DEMs.

Everybody wants a DEM...If you had a DEM the size of my route...you would change your mind.

Surely a matter of personal perspective and personal preferences. I first looked at DEMs in 1998, for Railroad Tycoon II, 30 arc sec in those days. I began in earnest 9 years ago with USGS 30m data and USGS DLG 1:24k vector maps. I never turned back to forming terrain myself. And there is simply no serious alternative to global uniform coordinates as delivered by proper cartography, be in on paper maps or in digital form. Even with mostly flat terrain the advantage of having the coordinates always beats the small effort to gather some proper geo data first. Much of the pain route builders suffer from with maps of any type and shape is that they abandon the coordinates in the process, sometimes very early.
 
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