microslop trainsim 2
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illinoiscentral
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Hate ruin your fun but I own Trainz and EA's Rail Simulator and RailSim's graphic outperform Trainz anyday. I mean the water moves, the people move, and the trains are better looking. Point Blank if Trainz [which I love] wants to compete in the future it needs to boost up, by alot.
amigacooke
Well-known member
I sort of agree, but when you want to do anything but look at the pretty graphics, that's when your troubles begin.
bigboy4010
Hardcore Steam Breather
I guess its a tradeoff between superior graphics and freedom with the program.
I used to have MSTS and when I got TRS UTC, I never went back to any train simulator and threw them all away. OK not really. I never throw away disks or games. I hold onto them and then I give them away to friends or family and let them do what ever they want with it. HAHAHA. But now all I play is Trainz04 and a few other simulators (not train related).
Matt
Matt
Hmmm, lemme see...
They all have their positives and negatives... Each one is aimed differently.
MSTS 1 was always more physics based than graphics. You can still make a damn nice model for MSTS mind... Route building is not easy though. And model creation needs a lot more care than TRS.
MSTS 2, I'm hoping it is pretty much the same... The graphics look damn sweet, and I can see a couple of things that we cannot do in TRS (The main one is the reflections of the world around the model on the windows, etc). But, I'm more interested in if it has good physics... But, since it is unreleased, we really can't comment on how it rates against other sims...
TS2009. Has some good features for the graphics. Runs nicely. But the game engine is starting to become a bit dated... But, it is still a contender IMO. It's also easy to use... I feel it's more aimed at the easy to use side of things...
KRS/EARS. I've not got it, but I've played the demo. It didn't really impress me. At least in the case of steam. The smoke wasn't linked to any of the physics, and looks fairly ordinary to me. The graphics were nice, but I felt they were trying too hard to be realistic, and not to look good... I feel this one was more aimed at the graphics and nothing much else, from my experience of the demo. And reading a lot of the comments on the UKTS forums.
Thats just my 5c worth.
Zec
They all have their positives and negatives... Each one is aimed differently.
MSTS 1 was always more physics based than graphics. You can still make a damn nice model for MSTS mind... Route building is not easy though. And model creation needs a lot more care than TRS.
MSTS 2, I'm hoping it is pretty much the same... The graphics look damn sweet, and I can see a couple of things that we cannot do in TRS (The main one is the reflections of the world around the model on the windows, etc). But, I'm more interested in if it has good physics... But, since it is unreleased, we really can't comment on how it rates against other sims...
TS2009. Has some good features for the graphics. Runs nicely. But the game engine is starting to become a bit dated... But, it is still a contender IMO. It's also easy to use... I feel it's more aimed at the easy to use side of things...
KRS/EARS. I've not got it, but I've played the demo. It didn't really impress me. At least in the case of steam. The smoke wasn't linked to any of the physics, and looks fairly ordinary to me. The graphics were nice, but I felt they were trying too hard to be realistic, and not to look good... I feel this one was more aimed at the graphics and nothing much else, from my experience of the demo. And reading a lot of the comments on the UKTS forums.
Thats just my 5c worth.
Zec
oh, i've got railsim too, but i never use it anymore. it's just pretty and that's about it. i know what you mean about detail ( i've got a masters in photography ) but there's something so static and plastic about railsim's surface that i don't think of it as realistic at all. trainz is getting better, and even so, and taking into consideration what you're saying, i go out and look at the union pacific tracks and watch what light does to objects, and feel ok about 'making a world in trainz'. sorry about that.
IsambardKingdomBrunel
Joined June 2001
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jadebullet
might be back?
I kinda felt the same way about KRS's obsession with Brittish stuff. They gave us one US route which the community over there whined about, and then started pumping out British stuff.
I have nothing against British stuff, by the way, it just doesn't appeal to me. (With the exception of the older stuff.)
illinoiscentral
SARM Volunteer
IsambardKindomBrunel: Not everyone is focused on the UK ya know. And your "yanks" bit, I got news for you, America's railroads do a heck of alot more than yours. I find your reply very offensive! Oh, and rewrite history? HAHA, the world started moving into the industrial age when WE STARTED IT!!!
illinoiscentral
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RailSim's cab views make Trainz 2006 look dumpy. At least there's a difference between the AC4400 & DASH9, whereas trainz the same cab for a Geep38 or SD40 I mean come on people! The wheels don't even move on all of Auran's locos PhilC's SD70 is the only one worth looking at.
jordan1210
TRAIN LOVER!
thoes are default routes for mtst 2 they said in mtst that you can go any where in the world where there at train tracks
'merican schools are as bad as ours then it appears.
"The Industrial Revolution was a period in the late 18th and early 19th centuries when major changes in agriculture, manufacturing, production, and transportation had a profound effect on the socioeconomic and cultural conditions in Britain. The changes subsequently spread throughout Europe, North America, and eventually the world."
Next he'll be claiming the US didn't turn up late for both world wars
Mike.
'merican schools are as bad as ours then it appears.
"The Industrial Revolution was a period in the late 18th and early 19th centuries when major changes in agriculture, manufacturing, production, and transportation had a profound effect on the socioeconomic and cultural conditions in Britain. The changes subsequently spread throughout Europe, North America, and eventually the world."
Next he'll be claiming the US didn't turn up late for both world wars
Mike.
English writer George Orwell in the book "1984" taught us how to rewrite history to suit ourselves.:hehe:
Eric Arthur Blair taught you well then ...
Absolutely. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Orwell :wave:
Boobless_ed
Will this do?
To the OP, I reckon the shots of MSTS 2 look far superior to Trainz. That is of course because they have a great professional team behind it. They can afford a large professional dev team.
It'll be different. It'll look more polished than TRS because it has so much money thrown into it, rather than the more open style that Trainz has been developed with, utilising less professional user-based content.
Trainz has has always had a great dev team behind it, but it has been more involved in the core of the sim rather than content and such, and has never had much of the luxuries M$ can front up. They've done an amazing job considering.
From what I know, there is likely to be nothing Trainz can do that MSTS 2 will not.
MSTS 2 will probably be fantastic because of the money M$ have to spend on it.
All of that said, I currently prefer Trainz to any other sim. I have my reasons, same with most of the other people around these forums.
It certainly won't be Trainz. It'll be a completely different sim.
I don't even know why I'm replying to this. It seems to me like a fanboy thread bashing the 'new' sim to get replies. It's a different sim by a different dev team made in a different manner.
Gah. Why am I replying to this thread? Why did I get sucked into a fanboy trolling thread?
You don't need to bash another (incomplete) sim because you want to look
'cooler' on the Auran forums. The MSTS 2 dev team are putting in a lot of work, and are probably just as tallented and fine people as the Auran team. Bashing another sim will not sell more copies of Trainz.
Wait and see the finished result, and be more objective about things.
I'm tired and grumpy, and off to sleep.
Peace. Etc.
It'll be different. It'll look more polished than TRS because it has so much money thrown into it, rather than the more open style that Trainz has been developed with, utilising less professional user-based content.
Trainz has has always had a great dev team behind it, but it has been more involved in the core of the sim rather than content and such, and has never had much of the luxuries M$ can front up. They've done an amazing job considering.
From what I know, there is likely to be nothing Trainz can do that MSTS 2 will not.
MSTS 2 will probably be fantastic because of the money M$ have to spend on it.
All of that said, I currently prefer Trainz to any other sim. I have my reasons, same with most of the other people around these forums.
It certainly won't be Trainz. It'll be a completely different sim.
I don't even know why I'm replying to this. It seems to me like a fanboy thread bashing the 'new' sim to get replies. It's a different sim by a different dev team made in a different manner.
Gah. Why am I replying to this thread? Why did I get sucked into a fanboy trolling thread?
You don't need to bash another (incomplete) sim because you want to look
'cooler' on the Auran forums. The MSTS 2 dev team are putting in a lot of work, and are probably just as tallented and fine people as the Auran team. Bashing another sim will not sell more copies of Trainz.
Wait and see the finished result, and be more objective about things.
I'm tired and grumpy, and off to sleep.
Peace. Etc.