London calling...

[Euphod]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-Train-drivers-stage-days-strikes-Games.html

After reading the article I find myself thinking that the "people" don't support the company, they use the trains because they have to go somewhere. I hardly think a bit of bad public relations is going to prevent them from using the trains again once the strike is over.

 

[nexusdj]

Quote - 'great national pride' - Yeah right , which rock has this person been living under for the last 6 months . Most folks in the rest of the UK think the games are a waste of money and very London Centric .

East Mids trains as had months to sort the pensions mess out , a mess that was created by themselves not the drivers . No good EMT blaming ASLEF when all they are attempting to do is ensure that it's driver members can work safe in the knowledge that there pensions haven't been ruined by a company who's main concerns are keeping it's shareholders happy.

 

[wholbr]

Hi Ed, nexsdj and everybody

Quote - 'great national pride' - Yeah right , which rock has this person been living under for the last 6 months . Most folks in the rest of the UK think the games are a waste of money and very London Centric .

East Mids trains as had months to sort the pensions mess out , a mess that was created by themselves not the drivers . No good EMT blaming ASLEF when all they are attempting to do is ensure that it's driver members can work safe in the knowledge that there pensions haven't been ruined by a company who's main concerns are keeping it's shareholders happy.

I have to agree with nexusdj there, most people in Britain could not give two hoots about the Olympic Games and just wish it would go away. Also ED the Daily Mail is a newspaper that would wish everybody in the world to believe that life in Britain is just not worth living and constantly running everything down especially those who would wish to stand up for themselves against the great multinational and national companies.

People in Britain have watched the bankers especially in the last week Bob Diamond admit that his bank had acted illegally in fixing interbank lending rates and yet he walks away with £2 million in pay off and pension to which he never contributed a penny. Whereas those that have worked in the railway industry for years and have paid into their pension throughout that time and are now employed by East Midlands trains are having the experience of their pensions payout being cut by over a third in most cases and they will have to work until they are 70 to get it.

Is it any wonder that they decide to hit the gates now even if that upsets the government, Olympics and Daily Mail in doing so.
Bill

 

[fran1]

wholbr,
1 hoot and a half hearted one at that. Not remotely interested, the nearest I'll get to watching it is going past on Eurostar to Brussels on a trip. Where the sun don't shine is where the olympics can go for me.

 

[Euphod]

Whatever the Daily Mail is, it is an interesting article. As far as the Olympics go....*yawn.

I just laugh when it's reported that "this isn't a good time for a strike". Duh! No kidding? That's why it IS a good time for a strike, you nimrods!

 

[teddytoot]

One has to remember that the Daily Mail is probably the most right wing of our newspapers. I well remember back in the 1960s them blanking out the Coop adverts on an overturned London bus in a news item because they didn't accept Coop adverts.

 

[amigacooke]

I was down in Totland, Isle of Wight last Saturday and quite a few people seemed interested when the flame came through.

As to the games being London centric, the games are awarded to cities, not to countries.

PS I have a friend who wasn't interested in the Olympics, but when I offered him a badminton ticket he soon snapped it up.

 

[airtime]

I remember there was talk around April this year of strike action during the Olympic Games in the summer, but if I remember it wasn't just the trains and planes that were going to be effected, all the black cabs in the UK, the Fire Service, the British ambulance service, Royal mail, and a number of other businesses and industry's across the UK were also going to go on strike at the same time.

As Nexusdj said earlier, most people in the UK don't care about the Olympics, I come from Liverpool and the only thing we saw of the Olympics was the torch, and that will be it, the rest will be on telly, and we across the UK won't see a penny of this investment, it will all go to the British Government who will still plead poverty, eventhough there are well over 1000 MPs who are extremely well paid for doing mostly nothing, and thinking the country is doing really well, I believe if we started cutting back on MPs, then things maybe different, then maybe the MPs would realise what the UK is going through, and not everything is as rosey as it looks.

David Cameron says we are all in it together, yes for the Government he is right, they are all in it together, as for the people that matter, the real people of the UK, carry on working until your 70 or better still, till your dead, so we don't have to pay a pension out.

I hope the Olympic games is the biggest farce on the planet, and if anyone goes on strike during the games, I will be right behind them all the way. I support the real British people, not the non elected dictator ship of the so called British Government, and they called Magarby, there doing the same, taking from the poor and feeding the rich.

Joe Airtime (having a Jeremy Clarkson day)

 

[Wessex_Electric_Nutter]

Quote - 'great national pride' - Yeah right , which rock has this person been living under for the last 6 months . Most folks in the rest of the UK think the games are a waste of money and very London Centric .

The funny thing is, I was looking forward to working with a TOC over the Olympics, until I was told that the funding for stations outside London wasn't available. How happy do you think I am? Not very! Now I am starting to think the Olympics are a waste of time and money as not only have they not fulfilled the job requirements properly (never trust a politician), but the security issue either and now, things have got really desperate, the striking issue. I'm guessing there will be a lot more to come in the next 7 days as they go from one disaster to the next.

The only thing I really took an interest in is the Olympic flame. Why? Because A) its going round the country (and why didn't they include the rest of Ireland for that?) and B) goes past my local city so I thought it was a rare thing to snap. Actually, it went past my voluntary workplace and my part time work place!

 

[fran1]

Joe Airtime,
Cameron says were all in it together, I know what a lot of people are in or will be shortly and it's not roses !
He obviously has no sense of smell or feeling as he doesn't know what he's stood in.

 

[amigacooke]

I remember there was talk around April this year of strike action during the Olympic Games in the summer, but if I remember it wasn't just the trains and planes that were going to be effected, all the black cabs in the UK, the Fire Service, the British ambulance service, Royal mail, and a number of other businesses and industry's across the UK were also going to go on strike at the same time.

Has any union called for a strike during the Olympics? The PCS haven't.

As Nexusdj said earlier, most people in the UK don't care about the Olympics, I come from Liverpool and the only thing we saw of the Olympics was the torch, and that will be it, the rest will be on telly, and we across the UK won't see a penny of this investment,

This is simply not true. Have a look at Dozens more Olympic contracts awarded to NW

it will all go to the British Government who will still plead poverty, eventhough there are well over 1000 MPs who are extremely well paid for doing mostly nothing, and thinking the country is doing really well, I believe if we started cutting back on MPs, then things maybe different, then maybe the MPs would realise what the UK is going through, and not everything is as rosey as it looks.

List of MPs here, 650 is the total which seems to be a little short of well over 1000 MPs

I support the real British people, not the non elected dictator ship of the so called British Government.

I remember voting at the last election. Just because you don't like the result of an election, doesn't make it undemocratic.

 

[airtime]

List of MPs here, 650 is the total which seems to be a little short of well over 1000 MPs

I do see where you coming from Amigacooke, and yes you are right, there are 650 elected MPs, so my mistake, I'm sorry but on tv there looks like a lot more.

Many thanks for your reply Amigacooke, by the way I was having a Jeremy Clarkson moment, I think everyone needs to once in a while.

Joe Airtime

 

[Paulsw2]

Well, yes, 650 MPs in the Commons, but over 800 peers in the Lords (and rising!)

I live in south London, so not one of the Olympic boroughs, and there isn't a lot of stuff going on here, though the flame does go near my house next Thursday. However, the whole thing has cost £9 billion which does seem quite a lot for a two week sports festival. And London's council tax has been raised to help pay for it - at least you haven't got that north of the Watford gap!

Whatever the Daily Mail is....

Ed, we in Britain have been asking that question for years! :hehe:

Paul

 

[amigacooke]

Well, yes, 650 MPs in the Commons, but over 800 peers in the Lords (and rising!)

Most peers are not saleried and have to survive on allowances that can only be claimed for parliamentary work. The rate of deceased Lords to new Lords tend to suggest the number is falling.

 

[stovepipe]

123 new lords since the last election 2 and a bit years ago, suggests numbers are increasing.

 

[amigacooke]

123 new lords since the last election 2 and a bit years ago, suggests numbers are increasing.

I defer to this point, though there is a fair way to go to beat the pre-1997 reform level of some 1200 peers.

 

[pfx]

Look on the bright side folks. Only 19 days until the Limpicks is over!

 

[mity22]

After the olympics its not over the paraolympics start then.

 

[rjhowie]

A lot of hype there about the House of Lords. Nowhere near all those Lords turn up or have to and they get a day's attendace fee. Many only attend one day a week and so on. In addtion it is only a delaying chamber in checking Bills but cannot stop them and we get it on the cheap. If we have an elected upper house great fat salaries come with it and more cost. Strikes me that with so much experience in the Lords it does a valuable job. It also includes various backgrounds including Trade Unionists and others so a false impression being cleverly given here.

And so what if the Daily Mail is a rightist newspaper? We live in a democracy and are we only supposed to have liberal or lefty ones?? Kind of daft and blinkered vision that one! Sometimes it does produce some very informative stuff. Not that the left papers are somehow virtuous. Remember the Daily Mirror getting the heave-ho for false items on the Army and now he is a 'celebrity'!

Regarding the strike matter. Whether those of us far off from the south east and London are Olympic fans or not it is a disgusting that the RMT led by a near Marxist and others want to disrupt an international event. The old hoary excuse is "It's not me it's the principle." They could have waited but are so self-orientated and Hell bent on their world and stuff everyone else. Remember too that those who don't work lose money but the Union Barons won't. Hosting a global event is not the place to practice outmoded attitudes and dirty linen. Not all the donkeys are leaders.....

 

[stovepipe]

The last time I read the Daily Mail, I was informed about celebrities at great length and encouraged to report people who cheat the system. Unfortunately I didn't know the addresses of any bankers, so I was unable to do so at the time.