Loco heading can't be changed despite placement and consist heading

gisa

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Hi All,


I ran into a strange problem tonight (I'm using '04). I put a loco on the tracks and added a consist to it. I made sure the consist heading was heading away from the consist to the left (the direction I want to go) by selecting that button and pressing the locomotive. It clearly shows a green arrow heading to the left. But no matter what I do in driver, it assumes it wants to go right which means the controls are mixed up (reverse = forward and vice versa). If I rotate the loco itself it will correct it, but I want it to face in this particular direction.

Is there a setting or option I can do to fix this?

Input appreciated!

:wave:

Gisa ^^
 

In surveyor mode choose consist tab, then click on the button on the right. You will get the section on consists showing. In the bottom right hand corner there is a button with two arrows in a circle (white and red). Click on this and it will change the direction in which you wish the consist to go.
 
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Hi Stationbeam,


Thank you for the help. I tried to do the solution as you mentioned several times but the problem is, even if I click on that button and have the consist facing the way I want, as soon as I go to driver, it INSISTS on the other direction. It's like clicking on the heading button and arranging it is meaningless.

As to why? I'm assuming it's a tag in the config that forces the loco to recognize that the one side is always the *front* but I have no idea which one or how to adjust it...:confused: I'm fairly sure that the railroad in questions (CN) always ran their Geep's long hood forward but still. Maybe I'll take a peek into the file later.

:wave:

Gisa ^^
 
Once you click the button you must then click the loco and the arrows will change direction. My apologies for not explaining this in my previous post.
 
Hi Again,


Hehe, I did that. Still won't work. I'm not sure if my computer is up to it but I can try to make a video when I get home from work just to show you...@@

:wave:

Gisa ^^
 
Hi gisa,

If you mean the AI won't go in the direction you want, and the driver commands are telling it to go in that direction and it still won't go it means there is something wrong with the track or points in the direction you want it to go. Let it go in the wrong direction for a while and see if it takes another route.

Cheers,
Bill69
 
Hi Bill,


Thanks for the advice. I just made a circular test track and yeah, I generally drive the loco myself. I can try to relay the track in the other direction to see but I think it will still assume that the "long hood forward" is the rule no matter what.

:wave:

Gisa ^^
 
Gisa there are a couple of locos in my collection (GP38s IIRC, but I may be wrong) which always run long-hood-frowards from the 'W' key irrespective of track direction, red/green arrows etc. With these locos 'W' is ALWAYS long-hood direction.

They drive me nuts, cause apart from this idiosyncrasy they are great models. I have studied the configs and all seems well (though I am no expert) perhaps there is something in the mesh....

Andy ;)
 
The loco(s) in question are payware CN/CP GP99 HH's. Tlanders mentioned in another thread that CN always ran their high hoods long hood forward. It may be prototypical, but I prefer it the other way so yeah, this is a puzzling one.

I would like to know why it does this as well. I will still run these HH's until they rust and fall apart :D but yeah...

:wave:

Gisa ^^
 
gisa...yes there were a few railroads that ran their GP9's long hood forward and ordered them built that way...NYC for one. I've had to do the opposite when using NYC geeps. I turn them around the other way, which. of course, makes the driver figure and the controls in the cab face backwards. :D

Cheers,
Fred

P.S. Have you tried using the "Change Train Direction" command?
 
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Hi Zorronov,


I haven't tried the change direction command. I use '04 so I hope it exists there...

Here's two pics for those of you who are confused or like me, need to see the problem to believe it. :hehe:

I apologize for the size of the pics...



In the first picture you can see the green arrow heading the way I want it to head (ignore the other stuff I was testing at the time). I go into driver and...



As you can see, I'm going forward according to the throttle but am actually moving backwards according to the locomotive. @@

:wave:

Gisa ^^
 
I haven't tried the change direction command. I use '04 so I hope it exists there...
Gisa ^^

Yes...it's for '04 and is on the DLS. Add it to your session and program the AI driver to do it at the start of the session...then you can take over and the train should be heading in the direction you want. Also, from the pics, I can't tell in which direction you have laid your tracks. Place a trackmark on it and it will clarify that. Hope this helps...

Cheers,
Fred
 
Hi All,


Downloaded and tried the change driver command. Worked perfectly. :) I don't think the driver himself actually turned around but it did change the direction of the loco (meaning you can run any loco in any direction you want as it's front end). For those of you who suffer from this problem, this should help!

Thanks Zorronov! I'm not sure how to thank you but maybe this will do?



x 50

:wave:

Gisa ^^
 
Ketchup you say? Sure, I have some very fresh stuff right here:



As an after thought and notice about changing the loco's direction, sometimes you have to change it two or three times, but it will work if you keep at it!

:D :wave:

Gisa ^^
 
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