Installing and operating TSR2004/2006 route map in Trainz 12

[simonis]

When I purchased Trainz 12 I was real happy to note that it was supposed to be "backwards compatible" with routes and sessions created for older versions. So I installed my favorite layout from TSR2004 Jan Andree's "All Amsterdam 3" into Trainz 12. It works, but I am having some track and catenary wire/post distortions which were created within Trainz 12. going back to TSR2004, they are still in the right location.
Some parts of the track have relocated so that the posts of the catenary staunchions are in the middle of the track, some of the two post for twin track assemblies appear to have split in two parts, 1 the original grey colour, roughly in the right location and the other part a pure white colour and offset by either about 30 degrees with poles in the track or 90 degrees with the poles parralel to the track.
Incidently a train coming into the faulty section, simply ignores what I can see and drives straight through the faulty area without crashing.
Only a small proportion of these assemblies are affected this way, most are showing quite normal.
No matter what I do in surveyor, I cannot correct, delete or shift the location of the posts, but I can delete the faulty track section and rebuilt it.
Can anybody advise me how to fix this?
Lou Simonis, Croydon North. Victoria. Australia

 

[stagecoach]

Check your route in CMP for any missing assets or faulty ones. A lot has changed since 2004 and some assets may need updating to work in 2012, some may not work due to newer rules etc.

 

[JCitron]

It is very possible to move routes up from TRS2004 to TS12. I have done this many times, and with the new tools such as the replace assets utility, it is easy to replace older content with newer assets. This is very helpful when replacing track, roads, and trees as this saves a ton of time and keeps everything in place but puts the new asset in its place.

As you have found out, there are some things to keep in mind. The older assets may have errors which need repairs. The repairs are fairly simple and are usually typographic errors in the config.txt files, bad or missing textures, or missing thumbnails. The most important tools you can use for this are PEVs Tools which are available from Shane Turner's website as well as a good photo editor such as Paint Shop Pro, Gimp, or Photoshop for example.

John

 

[simonis]

Thanks John,
I will need to check on the replace assets utility and Shane Turner's website, I have been getting messages about missing textures, and missing thumbnails.
Regards,
Lou Simonis

 

[simonis]

Thanks for the quick reply, I have been doing what you suggest for some time using cmp, also downloaded updated assets, more work to do. At least your reply shows I am going the right way about this, appreciate it.
Regards,
Lou Simonis

 

[K3JohnHO]

Have just moved a TRS2004 layout to TS12. Had several problems but was able to get around most by replacing faulty assets.
Biggest problem was portals. Although they appeared OK, I had to replace all of them (basic and tunnel versions) before they would function.
Still having a problem with the 'Coal Mine' in that TS12 is periodically not reacting to the "Check Resources' rule. Under TRS2004, I would hold a coal train at an approach signal (Resource Check & Set Signal rules) until there was sufficient coal to fill the train. (leaving a coal mine with empty wagon looks odd!).
I had one 'Paint Shed' wagon which came across with a few warnings but works OK.
One disappointment is that there appears less 'rules/commands' for AI train control.
My current annoyance is the 'Layer' function. I have accidently deleted a couple of sessions I have put a lot of effort into. When exiting from 'Edit Route' layer after updating, the DEFAULT should be to NOT save a NEW SESSION as it is easy to forget which layer you were just in. Prompt screens obviously designed by programmers who have never created/edited routes and sessions ! .

 

[simonis]

Hi John,
Yes I have found some of the same issues with coal loading. First of all you obviously are a lot more advanced in what you can do, but I am learning. The TRS2004 layout I am trying to convert to TS12, has so many unusual behaviour issues that I am trying to address, so I am confining myself to sorting out some basic content issues first, converting content for which there are no updated versions.
I have some drawbacks, I have a copy of the kuid2 content creators guide, but it appears to be superseded for TS12, thus I am struggling with using the correct syntax and rules for altering the config.txt files. I am using the errors and warnings as a guide for correcting the faulty files. Also the PEV tools are very helpful. The rules you mention are not in this guide book, thus there must be more information available, but where from?

I tried to download some new content the other day, but it stopped with a warning, "you must have paint shed installed to continue" I have had paint shed installed with TRS2004 for years, but the download helper will not recognise it is installed.

You are right about the saving after "Edit Route" I have had the same issue. I will keep learning and struggling along.
Regards,
Lou Simonis