I'm now superelevating turns on Avery-Drexel clone.

JonMyrlennBailey

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Using TANE program. It is a royal pain! One track spline at a time. There seems to be no high speed way to super elevate an entire route globally, that is in one easy operation.

What's worse is that over half of this route is electrified. That means there are catenary spline points right over many of the track spline points as well. Attempting to add degree of superelevation to these points will actually super elevate the catenary cable, not the track. So, I have to move the catenary spline points out of the way one by one, super elevate the track below then move the catenary points back into position again. Now, if there is a section with two or more tracks running side by side, the catenary points won't cover up the track points in that case. Much of the Milwaukee Road route is a single track in the mountains. Whenever I come to sidings, I don't have to move catenary out of the way to put a bevel in the track on curves. The catenary points only line up with track points on sections with a single track on the mainline.

Is there a way to easily super elevate an entire route by editing the config.txt file?
 
Using TANE program. It is a royal pain! One track spline at a time. There seems to be no high speed way to super elevate an entire route globally, that is in one easy operation.

Is there a way to easily super elevate an entire route by editing the config.txt file?

Super elevating an entire route???? Why?

Super elevation, in the real world, is only ever used on curves when the maximum allowed track speed is over a certain speed. To complicate the matter, the degree of super elevation depends on the track speed, the curve radius and the track gauge.

Now if your entire route was constructed using just a single gauge track, with a single maximum track speed throughout and consisted entirely of curves (no straight sections) all of the same radius, then a single config.txt "super-elevate-me" tag would make sense.
 
Looking at this further, to let Trainz automatically apply super elevation to each curve it would need a "super-elevate-me" tag for every track speed, curve radius and track gauge combination.

The minimum speed at which super elevation is applied is about 24kph (15mph) so speeds below that do not need tags. But even so, the config.txt file would become "bloated" with tags.

The other alternative would be to let Trainz totally automate the process without tags but that would be a "one-size-fits-all" approach and would be certain to generate complaints.

The current solution is, in my opinion, the better of those alternatives. Let individual creators manually apply super elevation where they deem it necessary. Personally, I have never used super elevation in any of my routes but other creators are free to have a different opinion.
 
Super elevating an entire route???? Why?

Super elevation, in the real world, is only ever used on curves when the maximum allowed track speed is over a certain speed. To complicate the matter, the degree of super elevation depends on the track speed, the curve radius and the track gauge.

Now if your entire route was constructed using just a single gauge track, with a single maximum track speed throughout and consisted entirely of curves (no straight sections) all of the same radius, then a single config.txt "super-elevate-me" tag would make sense.
Most of the route is 20 MPH or higher. 45 MPH is the max on this route. No, I won't super elevate at turnout points because it screws the frogs up. Crossovers on mainline are a mere 10 MPH so no track banking needed there. Yards will not be super elevated at my yard. In theory, super elevation should improve ride comfort on turns where a certain amount of g-force is applied. The in-cab and chase cameras capture this feeling (illusion) well. A lot of easement curves (with gradual varying radii) were avoided on this route as well by the original author and perhaps the real-world railroads this was modelled upon. If trains are traveling too fast, one can sense the snappiness of turns going in and out of straight sections. One can sense the rotary acceleration, deceleration and rotary speed of the train's changing it's forward direction (curve degree). It's like an impatient barber's spinning you around in the swivel chair in a snappy fashion and stopping the spin suddenly when you face to mirror on the back wall.

I use a steady 5 degrees of superelevation for each and every point to be banked.
 
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