I suffered my first major crash with Trainz...

[JCitron]

...And I am finally almost up and running after about three days of repairing and reinstalling my assets.

This started with an odd problem in Driver. I could not access the driver's menu items such as move to loco, etc., or access the driver's commands. Every time I tried, the computer froze and then I got a crashed message. At first I thought it was the session I had created so I deleted it, but this happened again.

At first I thought it had something to do with some new assets I had installed so I tried to back them up and then delete them. I could back them up, but couldn't remove them. Then for some reason, I had a built-in asset that ended up open for edit. I couldn't commit it because permission was denied. I then ran the extended repair on the database, which found some problems, but that one asset couldn't be comitted.

I then copied my assets to another hard disk, and tried to uninstall Trainz. I couldn't uninstall because the uninstaller was broken. I ended up deleting the directory, running a registry repair program, then reinstalled.

The reinstall went fine including service packs and adding in S&C, Murchison, and Cabon City. Then I attempted to import my data again. CMP2 crashed randomly. I did a database repair and then I was able to import my assets.

The process so far has taken me three days because of my busy schedule. I setup the import so that it takes place while I sleep, and hope for the best the next morning when I turn my display on again.

This was quite an experience, and really frustrating. I can see why some of the less experienced users would want to quit right there and then! At this point, I am ready to test the install, hopefully assets installed properly, and I am able to add driver commands again. Why the program crashed like that is beyond me. I have yet to figure out what caused the problem, and probably will never really know what happened.

John

 

[seeseeme]

John you are not alone, I am doing exactly the same thing as you did right now. Thought I would check the forum to give me a break :hehe:

The easy ones I am doing while at the computer and the longer ones I will do while having tea or watching TV :hehe:

Craig

 

[JCitron]

John you are not alone, I am doing exactly the same thing as you did right now. Thought I would check the forum to give me a break :hehe:

The easy ones I am doing while at the computer and the longer ones I will do while having tea or watching TV :hehe:

Craig

Hi Craig,

I checked the forum too hoping to find out if there was a problem reported. Maybe we're the pilgrims here, and no one else has run into the problem, or reported it.

My import finished and I have some broken assets I need to go through. Hopefully I can repair them easily. I think these were installed before the Today tab worked so it was difficult to catch them back then.

I wish you the best of luck.

Fun, fun, and more fun!

John

 

[seeseeme]

Hi John,

Yeah I am having fun , when I crashed I thought it was mainly due to a faulty hard drive where I keep an Archives of my files. At the time I was using the Archives a lot during the day but I am not sure exactly what the problem was.

I could not uninstall 2009 either due to a corrupt file "unis000.dat" so I just installed a new copy over the last one. That seemed to fix some of the problems but not all. When I realised I have a problem I transferred all my "local" folder to another drive, not the drive I thought/think I have a problem with.

I posted on the forum for some help about this but many where not sure. Zec mentioned that he had reported my thread as he has seen a number of people having similar problems. I then sent in a report about it so Auran would know what I have gone through and what I am doing. I will send in an update when I have installed more content and know more about what is happening.

The funny thing about all this process is that my "local" folder content is showing some errors that I do not think was there before. I have been very careful to correct many of the errors/warnings so I am not sure why they are showing again/now.

Craig

 

[JCitron]

Thank you Craig, for the update. I too came across errors that I thought I had corrected?? Some of the them are regarding an "______" in the config.txt file, which is now new and very common. This is a quick fix by deleting line. Others are things that I thought I fixed before such as mis-spellings, and missing graphics files.

I'm glad Auran in in on this. Like I said, we're the pilgrims treking across new lands! Hopefully this problem will be fixed either in a patch, or in the SP4 when it comes out.

John

 

[seeseeme]

John,

I am more then sure I have fixed many errors that are now showing and having to correct again. Its not all of them but quite a few still.

Are you having any problems with Committing content that has been "Open For Edit" ?

I am finding that many items will not Commit on the first attempt. Some take 2-3 goes and some I open up again, have a look to make sure there are the normal content items in the folder and then commit again. Though I have about 4 that just will not Commit, I will try downloading them again once I finish this part.

Craig

 

[JCitron]

John,

I am more then sure I have fixed many errors that are now showing and having to correct again. Its not all of them but quite a few still.

Are you having any problems with Committing content that has been "Open For Edit" ?

I am finding that many items will not Commit on the first attempt. Some take 2-3 goes and some I open up again, have a look to make sure there are the normal content items in the folder and then commit again. Though I have about 4 that just will not Commit, I will try downloading them again once I finish this part.

Craig

I've had that problem too, now Craig with items that won't commit on first try. Do you have problems with missing texture.txt files and missing tga files even though they are there. The PEV utility doesn't fix these either, which is frustrating.

John

 

[seeseeme]

I've had that problem too, now Craig with items that won't commit on first try. Do you have problems with missing texture.txt files and missing tga files even though they are there. The PEV utility doesn't fix these either, which is frustrating.

John

Hi John,

I have not seen any problems with the texture files so not sure. There may have been one or two that I thought "oh well, did not really wont that anyway :hehe: " and deleted them.

What I am seeing with the commit problem though is that if after a few attempts to commit them I look in the Edit Folder and at the item. I have seen a few of the files where there is no Config File any more. I have also seen files with very strange names it there, and I do not mean the ones we have in our Local Folder. I am not sure but what I think is happening is that after a couple of attempts then CM2 is getting very confused about what is happening and then does some strange things. I also see when I may Commit 200 items some are not committed the first time and I think that may be due to other things happening. If I then end up with 20 items that did not work, I then do them one at a time and if that does not work then look in the Edit Folder.

In my case I think this may be due to a bad install of 2009 but I am not sure. At the moment I am just getting my content back together and also in Archive Files. By the time I do then I will hopefully have 2010 and transfer them to there.

What is very strange though is the problem with repairing content that I/we have already repaired. That really is strange, why would the files in my local folder that I moved to a "safe" location then have the errors again. I have reported this to Zec and Auran so I am not sure what they may think of this problem. I know from other threads Zec and Auran are very busy at the moment with 2010 due soon.

Craig

 

[JCitron]

Craig,

Are you seeing config files with "_____" in them?

I've have quite a few of these. They're easy to fix though, which is nice.
I've had a few assets that I can't seem to commit, but I deleted them figuring there was something worse with them anyway, and they're no longer there.

Regarding the texture problem. I have a number of assets that were fixed before, but now show the same problem. CMP2 says that the texture isn't there or can't be loaded, but when I open the asset for editing in explorer, the texture files are there.

In the past I was able to fix the existing texture files in GIMP and resave them, but unchecking the texture compression. This fixed the problem, but now they're bad again.

There are also other weird config file errors that didn't exist before. Dave Drake's trees for example have a "25" in there on a single line in the config file. I delete the "25", and the problem goes away.

I'm wondering if perhaps this latest version of Trainz is stricter and reporting more errors than before in addition to us also having a database problem. This makes the problem worse than it could be because we're fighting two problems at once!

Hopefully either SP4 and/or 2010 will fix this problem. It's a good one for the Brew Crew to attack.

John

 

[seeseeme]

Hi John,

I saw the error "________" before I had my troubles and so far I have not seen it again. I have had a reply from Zec and he did mention that there was more checking after SP2 was released then before and that may be why we seem to be fixing the same errors again.

With your example I am not seeing it this time, nor am I seeing errors such as "USA" instead of "US" by one particular creator who had quite a few before. So I have no idea what is going on.

Just after my last post I was opening content for edit using Ctlr-E and that sometimes did not work. In that case though the Config File had been removed and I could not use it. So I deleted it and then installed it again and that time it worked. On a couple it did take a couple of goes, but for most the second attempt removed the Config Files.

I have seen many errors where there is a number, but there have not been as many as before.

I mentioned to Zec, I am just fixing up as much as I can now without worrying about using 2009 to much. Fix as much as I can now and when 2010 comes I will be happy again :hehe: .

It is strange though.

Craig

 

[malikrthr]

John you are not alone, I am doing exactly the same thing as you did right now. Thought I would check the forum to give me a break :hehe:

The easy ones I am doing while at the computer and the longer ones I will do while having tea or watching TV :hehe:

Craig

similar to what I do. Whatever takes along time to download or import or whatever, I will do something else such as watching television, videogames, or school work. LOL