I need some ideas for island topography.

[JonMyrlennBailey]

I'm working up a fictitious tropical island route right now. 105 square miles. Presumed to be a private island. The foundation of the island is now just a flat surface 1 meter above mean sea level. Will flood over completely at high tide except for the airfield which is built up 27 feet above mean sea level.

I please need suggestions for using Topo tools to give the surface some authentic relief: some realist terrain features. Often islands have hills, mountains, maybe a river, cliffs and volcanoes in some cases. I want to get the natural physical geography established before adding small human settlements and laying a railroad line and motor roads. There are now sandy beaches all around the island and a pretty shade of green grass texture. I put date palms all around the apron of the airfield. Big jet airplanes can access this paradise in the making. Preston cove is a little sheltered shipping port with a track on the wharf so cargo ships can load materials onto the train. Since we now have modern aviation and sea navigation access, we can now haul in goods, building materials, trucks, automobiles, people and animals to make the place a little more settled. We will need jet fuel for aircraft and diesel fuel imported for trains. The few motorized vehicles and boats will need gasoline.

Has anybody here before laid a Trainz route over an island?

 

[HiBaller]

If you can locate some terrain-only routes by Fishlips they would help. He has three island DEMs that should fit your situation. They have coastlines at sea level (naturally) and all three rise to quite tall heights. If you didn't want to start over, you could install one of those routes, pare off the shape of the boards you already have completed, and insert them into his route like a Tetris drop. I've done it myself. Works just fine.

Bill

 

[schweitzerdude]

For terrain inspiration, few things are better than spending time using Google Earth and visiting wherever your mouse takes you. There is no shortage of interesting islands on this earth. I have used fishlips terrain-only routes in the past, and if you find one you like, that is far better than starting from scratch using the surveyor classic terrain tools. Other options include buying TrainzDEM to create raw terrain from almost anywhere.

Using Surveyor 2.0 to create your own terrain is so much easier due to the unlimited brush size that once you learn it, you never want to create terrain any other way. But that would require buying TRS22Plus.

 

[JonMyrlennBailey]

If you can locate some terrain-only routes by Fishlips they would help. He has three island DEMs that should fit your situation. They have coastlines at sea level (naturally) and all three rise to quite tall heights. If you didn't want to start over, you could install one of those routes, pare off the shape of the boards you already have completed, and insert them into his route like a Tetris drop. I've done it myself. Works just fine.

Bill

Link, please?

 

[Dinorius_Redundicus]

His full nickname is fishlipsatwork.

My TANE CM came up with this massive list, but all are at "unknown location"? How can it know of their existence if they are not on the DLS, not installed, not payware, not obsolete, not out-of-date?

<kuid2:59012:102046:1> Oakland
<kuid2:59012:100510:1> Anchorage
<kuid:59012:100230> Sheridan
<kuid2:59012:102790:1> Bethlehem Brnch
<kuid2:59012:102982:1> WY Mines
<kuid2:59012:10310:1> Allen Phil Tren
<kuid2:59012:101430:1> Alburtis
<kuid2:59012:102926:1> Brighton Saco R
<kuid2:59012:102798:1> Albany PA
<kuid2:59012:102752:1> Mohawk Valley
<kuid:59012:101216> Feather River
<kuid2:59012:103072:1> Shippensburg PA
<kuid2:59012:100512:1> Anchorage North
<kuid2:59012:101576:1> Island 3
<kuid2:59012:102088:1> Generic Coast 2
<kuid:59012:100232> Billings
<kuid2:59012:102024:1> Amherst
<kuid2:59012:103073:1> Anaconda MT
<kuid2:59012:100513:1> Fairbanks
<kuid2:59012:100511:1> Anchorage South
<kuid2:59012:102738:1> Ashton
<kuid2:59012:103128:1> Cajon Pass
<kuid2:59012:102168:1> Auburn - Berlin
<kuid2:59012:102161:1> Auburn-Rumford
<kuid2:59012:101525:1> Austin
<kuid2:59012:102711:1> Bangor, ME
<kuid2:59012:102574:1> Mack, CO
<kuid2:59012:103086:1> Cornwall PA
<kuid2:59012:103150:1> Barre
<kuid2:59012:103074:1> Bath NY
<kuid2:59012:100514:1> Fairbanks South
<kuid2:59012:101389:1> CTSR Colorado
<kuid:59012:100109> Chicag Ter Lite
<kuid2:59012:102797:1> Beth Cement
<kuid:59012:101227> Birmingham CSX
<kuid:59012:101224> Birmingham NS
<kuid2:59012:102655:1> Montpelier
<kuid2:59012:102143:1> Boise
<kuid2:59012:103101:1> Boston Blue Ln
<kuid2:59012:101515:1> Boulder Creek
<kuid2:59012:101426:1> Bronx East
<kuid2:59012:102130:1> Bremerton SML
<kuid2:59012:102709:1> Broad Top RR
<kuid2:59012:101427:1> Bronx North
<kuid2:59012:102016:1> CTSR SP2
<kuid2:59012:102144:1> Pocatello
<kuid2:59012:102656:1> Burlington,VT
<kuid2:59012:103129:1> Cajon Pass Sml
<kuid2:59012:102718:1> Cass
<kuid2:59012:101573:1> Catalina
<kuid2:59012:102938:1> Charls Crop
<kuid:59012:101402> Flo Mobile
<kuid2:59012:102921:1> ELS
<kuid2:59012:102793:1> Durant, OK
<kuid2:59012:102985:1> Cheyenne East
<kuid2:59012:102043:1> Chico-Roseville
<kuid2:59012:102935:1> Columbia SC
<kuid2:59012:102500:1> Flgstff - Winds
<kuid2:59012:102948:1> Cook Wilder
<kuid2:59012:102757:1> Cottage Grove
<kuid2:59012:101364:2> Grand Canyon
<kuid2:59012:102004:1> Crawford Hill
<kuid2:59012:103100:1> Greater Boston
<kuid2:59012:102140:1> Dalles-Hinkle
<kuid2:59012:102998:1> Denver Cheyenne
<kuid:59012:100195> Fort Bragg
<kuid2:59012:101539:1> Durango
<kuid2:59012:102146:1> Ely - Shafter
<kuid2:59012:103020:1> Frostburg
<kuid2:59012:102828:1> Evansville IN
<kuid2:59012:102522:1> Niagara Falls
<kuid2:59012:102010:2> Flagstaff
<kuid2:59012:102980:1> Fostoria
<kuid2:59012:101575:1> Island 2
<kuid2:59012:102087:1> Generic Coast 1
<kuid2:59012:101549:1> Grand Junc West
<kuid2:59012:102879:1> Green Bay WI
<kuid2:59012:101516:1> Los Gatos
<kuid2:59012:102028:1> Hann Jackson
<kuid2:59012:102740:1> Hannibal St Lou
<kuid:59012:100253> Hardin-Sheridan
<kuid:59012:101266> Harpers Ferry
<kuid2:59012:102944:1> Harriman
<kuid2:59012:102618:1> Harvard
<kuid2:59012:102977:1> Hibbing
<kuid2:59012:102794:1> Hope, ARK
<kuid2:59012:102011:1> Horseshoe Curve
<kuid2:59012:102853:1> Houghton
<kuid2:59012:102511:1> Indy Metro
<kuid2:59012:102505:1> Indy-Sullivan
<kuid2:59012:101574:1> Island 1
<kuid2:59012:101577:1> Island 4
<kuid2:59012:102029:1> Jackson Decatur
<kuid2:59012:101469:1> Jacksonville
<kuid2:59012:101147:1> Kalam-Detroit
<kuid2:59012:102657:1> Mont Burl
<kuid2:59012:102145:1> Kalamazoo
<kuid2:59012:102148:1> Kalmazoo-Chicag
<kuid2:59012:102868:1> Kelso East
<kuid2:59012:102584:1> Kerry RR
<kuid:59012:101249> Klamath
<kuid2:59012:102743:1> Klamath Chemult
<kuid2:59012:103083:1> Kokomo
<kuid2:59012:101566:1> Lamoille Valley
<kuid2:59012:102822:1> Lexington Dan
<kuid:59012:100102> Long Island NY
<kuid2:59012:103025:1> Loveland
<kuid2:59012:101363:1> Manville
<kuid2:59012:102849:1> Marq Hough
<kuid2:59012:102848:1> Marquette
<kuid:59012:101260> Medford
<kuid2:59012:101375:1> Terrain #5
<kuid2:59012:102911:1> Merrill WI
<kuid2:59012:102084:1> Miami-Key West
<kuid2:59012:103014:1> Two Harbors
<kuid2:59012:102502:1> Mil Rd Handford
<kuid2:59012:102501:1> Mil Rd Warden
<kuid2:59012:101395:1> Mont Flow
<kuid:59012:101237> Monterey
<kuid2:59012:102142:1> N Powder-Nyssa
<kuid2:59012:101442:1> Narrow Gaug Sml
<kuid2:59012:102829:1> Nashville TN
<kuid2:59012:102579:1> NEC NJ
<kuid2:59012:102009:1> Needles
<kuid2:59012:103151:1> New England
<kuid2:59012:102578:1> New Jersey
<kuid2:59012:102934:1> Rockwood
<kuid2:59012:101398:1> New Orleans
<kuid2:59012:101472:1> Nome
<kuid2:59012:101453:1> Superior,WI
<kuid2:59012:102989:1> North Plat West
<kuid2:59012:102852:1> Norwalk Danbury
<kuid2:59012:102557:1> NY - Phily
<kuid2:59012:102580:1> NY NJ
<kuid2:59012:102679:1> Pino Grande
<kuid2:59012:103078:1> Yulee FL
<kuid2:59012:102054:1> Placerville
<kuid2:59012:102065:1> Port Jervis
<kuid:59012:100112> Sava-Aurora
<kuid2:59012:102160:1> Portland-Auburn
<kuid2:59012:102014:1> Providence
<kuid2:59012:102981:1> Rawlins WY
<kuid2:59012:101362:1> Reading
<kuid2:59012:102040:1> Red - Chico
<kuid2:59012:102774:1> Renovo Williams
<kuid2:59012:103157:1> Rock Cumb 2
<kuid2:59012:103021:1> Rockwood Cumb
<kuid2:59012:101545:1> Sutter Butte
<kuid2:59012:102057:1> Roseville Yard
<kuid2:59012:102060:1> Sacramento Area
<kuid2:59012:102135:1> Salinas
<kuid2:59012:101551:1> Salt Lk Mining
<kuid:59012:101281> San Francisco
<kuid2:59012:102006:1> San Gorgonio
<kuid2:59012:102134:1> San Jose
<kuid2:59012:101146:1> Ward
<kuid:59012:100122> Savana-Gales
<kuid:59012:100170> Seattle
<kuid:59012:101213> Seattle Lite
<kuid:59012:100137> Seattle-Blaine
<kuid2:59012:103093:1> Shawano
<kuid2:59012:102808:1> Sherman Hill
<kuid2:59012:101400:1> Skagway
<kuid2:59012:103115:1> Slatington PA
<kuid2:59012:102837:1> Stamford CT
<kuid2:59012:103015:1> Surf
<kuid2:59012:102535:1> Tacoma Maple
<kuid2:59012:101370:1> Terrain #1
<kuid2:59012:101372:1> Terrain #2
<kuid2:59012:101373:1> Terrain #3
<kuid2:59012:101374:1> Terrain #4
<kuid2:59012:101376:1> Terrain #6
<kuid2:59012:101377:1> Terrain #7
<kuid2:59012:101378:1> Terrain #8
<kuid2:59012:101379:1> Terrain #9
<kuid2:59012:101380:1> Terrain #10
<kuid2:59012:101359:1> Texas Shortline
<kuid2:59012:102809:1> Thorne NV
<kuid2:59012:102787:1> Topton NC
<kuid2:59012:102992:1> Tricities
<kuid:59012:101200> Tucson
<kuid2:59012:102869:1> Vancouver WA
<kuid2:59012:102112:1> Vandenberg
<kuid2:59012:103097:1> Vaughn NM
<kuid2:59012:102122:1> Ventura
<kuid2:59012:102640:1> Yellowstone S
<kuid2:59012:103152:1> Vermont CLP
<kuid:59012:103162> Vermont GMRC
<kuid2:59012:101510:1> Virginia Truc B
<kuid2:59012:101509:1> Virginia Truc S
<kuid2:59012:102833:1> Waterbury CT
<kuid2:59012:102856:1> Wenatchee Rock
<kuid2:59012:102947:1> Wilder TN
<kuid2:59012:102125:1> Williamstown
<kuid:59012:101205> Yakima

 

[Forester1]

Great Question. My T:ANE has none of those. A lot of them would be really great though!

 

[p-dehnert]

The white pages of the DLS have about 200 layouts by fishlipsatwork. Don't forget to enable all versions of Trainz.

Peter

 

[HiBaller]

I have a lot of those in my TANE install. Let me check and see if I can figure out where I got them.

Bill

 

[JCitron]

I have a lot of those in my TANE install. Let me check and see if I can figure out where I got them.

Bill

He had hosted them elsewhere because they were too large for the DLS at the time but unfortunately the server crashed and that's the end of the files. I was able to get some of them as well many years ago in addition to the ones on the DLS.

 

[HiBaller]

I knew I'd seen them on a site. Here you go:

fishlips

It isn't all of them, but these are useful.

Bill

 

[Dinorius_Redundicus]

The white pages of the DLS have about 200 layouts by fishlipsatwork. Don't forget to enable all versions of Trainz.

Peter

With CM search criteria set up like this...

...you get nearly 200 routes by fishlipsatwork listed, even though the search is asking for things that are not on the DLS and not installed. They are in fact all on the DLS and visible on the "white pages" DLS website, as p-dehnert said, so why does this ridiculous search show anything? Since they are on the DLS, why does CM not display that as their location? It makes no sense to me.

At some level, CM must know where they are because you can actually download them with CM using the familiar highlight/right-click/download procedure. No need for FTP from the DLS web pages.

I tried just one (CSTR Colorado). It downloaded OK and installed with status "Third Party, Faulty". The fault was an invalid entry of "USA" in the "region" tag. I simply deleted the region tag, and despite several Warnings, the map loaded OK and was visible in TANE. I assume similar faults will attend the other fishlipsatwork downloads too, but should be easy to fix.

Result after fault fixing;

.

 

[Forester1]

I will have to try the White pages, if I can get FTP to work on a browser anymore. I got some good ones from Bill's link above, but Portland-Dalles is forbidden/404, so the one I want most is a no go.

 

[HiBaller]

One of the files you will need (to avoid missing dependencies) is the file containing HOG textures, unless you already have them installed or want to use the simple terrain without them.

Bill

 

[JonMyrlennBailey]

His full nickname is fishlipsatwork.

My TANE CM came up with this massive list, but all are at "unknown location"? How can it know of their existence if they are not on the DLS, not installed, not payware, not obsolete, not out-of-date?

<kuid2:59012:102046:1> Oakland
<kuid2:59012:100510:1> Anchorage
<kuid:59012:100230> Sheridan
<kuid2:59012:102790:1> Bethlehem Brnch
<kuid2:59012:102982:1> WY Mines
<kuid2:59012:10310:1> Allen Phil Tren
<kuid2:59012:101430:1> Alburtis
<kuid2:59012:102926:1> Brighton Saco R
<kuid2:59012:102798:1> Albany PA
<kuid2:59012:102752:1> Mohawk Valley
<kuid:59012:101216> Feather River
<kuid2:59012:103072:1> Shippensburg PA
<kuid2:59012:100512:1> Anchorage North
<kuid2:59012:101576:1> Island 3
<kuid2:59012:102088:1> Generic Coast 2
<kuid:59012:100232> Billings
<kuid2:59012:102024:1> Amherst
<kuid2:59012:103073:1> Anaconda MT
<kuid2:59012:100513:1> Fairbanks
<kuid2:59012:100511:1> Anchorage South
<kuid2:59012:102738:1> Ashton
<kuid2:59012:103128:1> Cajon Pass
<kuid2:59012:102168:1> Auburn - Berlin
<kuid2:59012:102161:1> Auburn-Rumford
<kuid2:59012:101525:1> Austin
<kuid2:59012:102711:1> Bangor, ME
<kuid2:59012:102574:1> Mack, CO
<kuid2:59012:103086:1> Cornwall PA
<kuid2:59012:103150:1> Barre
<kuid2:59012:103074:1> Bath NY
<kuid2:59012:100514:1> Fairbanks South
<kuid2:59012:101389:1> CTSR Colorado
<kuid:59012:100109> Chicag Ter Lite
<kuid2:59012:102797:1> Beth Cement
<kuid:59012:101227> Birmingham CSX
<kuid:59012:101224> Birmingham NS
<kuid2:59012:102655:1> Montpelier
<kuid2:59012:102143:1> Boise
<kuid2:59012:103101:1> Boston Blue Ln
<kuid2:59012:101515:1> Boulder Creek
<kuid2:59012:101426:1> Bronx East
<kuid2:59012:102130:1> Bremerton SML
<kuid2:59012:102709:1> Broad Top RR
<kuid2:59012:101427:1> Bronx North
<kuid2:59012:102016:1> CTSR SP2
<kuid2:59012:102144:1> Pocatello
<kuid2:59012:102656:1> Burlington,VT
<kuid2:59012:103129:1> Cajon Pass Sml
<kuid2:59012:102718:1> Cass
<kuid2:59012:101573:1> Catalina
<kuid2:59012:102938:1> Charls Crop
<kuid:59012:101402> Flo Mobile
<kuid2:59012:102921:1> ELS
<kuid2:59012:102793:1> Durant, OK
<kuid2:59012:102985:1> Cheyenne East
<kuid2:59012:102043:1> Chico-Roseville
<kuid2:59012:102935:1> Columbia SC
<kuid2:59012:102500:1> Flgstff - Winds
<kuid2:59012:102948:1> Cook Wilder
<kuid2:59012:102757:1> Cottage Grove
<kuid2:59012:101364:2> Grand Canyon
<kuid2:59012:102004:1> Crawford Hill
<kuid2:59012:103100:1> Greater Boston
<kuid2:59012:102140:1> Dalles-Hinkle
<kuid2:59012:102998:1> Denver Cheyenne
<kuid:59012:100195> Fort Bragg
<kuid2:59012:101539:1> Durango
<kuid2:59012:102146:1> Ely - Shafter
<kuid2:59012:103020:1> Frostburg
<kuid2:59012:102828:1> Evansville IN
<kuid2:59012:102522:1> Niagara Falls
<kuid2:59012:102010:2> Flagstaff
<kuid2:59012:102980:1> Fostoria
<kuid2:59012:101575:1> Island 2
<kuid2:59012:102087:1> Generic Coast 1
<kuid2:59012:101549:1> Grand Junc West
<kuid2:59012:102879:1> Green Bay WI
<kuid2:59012:101516:1> Los Gatos
<kuid2:59012:102028:1> Hann Jackson
<kuid2:59012:102740:1> Hannibal St Lou
<kuid:59012:100253> Hardin-Sheridan
<kuid:59012:101266> Harpers Ferry
<kuid2:59012:102944:1> Harriman
<kuid2:59012:102618:1> Harvard
<kuid2:59012:102977:1> Hibbing
<kuid2:59012:102794:1> Hope, ARK
<kuid2:59012:102011:1> Horseshoe Curve
<kuid2:59012:102853:1> Houghton
<kuid2:59012:102511:1> Indy Metro
<kuid2:59012:102505:1> Indy-Sullivan
<kuid2:59012:101574:1> Island 1
<kuid2:59012:101577:1> Island 4
<kuid2:59012:102029:1> Jackson Decatur
<kuid2:59012:101469:1> Jacksonville
<kuid2:59012:101147:1> Kalam-Detroit
<kuid2:59012:102657:1> Mont Burl
<kuid2:59012:102145:1> Kalamazoo
<kuid2:59012:102148:1> Kalmazoo-Chicag
<kuid2:59012:102868:1> Kelso East
<kuid2:59012:102584:1> Kerry RR
<kuid:59012:101249> Klamath
<kuid2:59012:102743:1> Klamath Chemult
<kuid2:59012:103083:1> Kokomo
<kuid2:59012:101566:1> Lamoille Valley
<kuid2:59012:102822:1> Lexington Dan
<kuid:59012:100102> Long Island NY
<kuid2:59012:103025:1> Loveland
<kuid2:59012:101363:1> Manville
<kuid2:59012:102849:1> Marq Hough
<kuid2:59012:102848:1> Marquette
<kuid:59012:101260> Medford
<kuid2:59012:101375:1> Terrain #5
<kuid2:59012:102911:1> Merrill WI
<kuid2:59012:102084:1> Miami-Key West
<kuid2:59012:103014:1> Two Harbors
<kuid2:59012:102502:1> Mil Rd Handford
<kuid2:59012:102501:1> Mil Rd Warden
<kuid2:59012:101395:1> Mont Flow
<kuid:59012:101237> Monterey
<kuid2:59012:102142:1> N Powder-Nyssa
<kuid2:59012:101442:1> Narrow Gaug Sml
<kuid2:59012:102829:1> Nashville TN
<kuid2:59012:102579:1> NEC NJ
<kuid2:59012:102009:1> Needles
<kuid2:59012:103151:1> New England
<kuid2:59012:102578:1> New Jersey
<kuid2:59012:102934:1> Rockwood
<kuid2:59012:101398:1> New Orleans
<kuid2:59012:101472:1> Nome
<kuid2:59012:101453:1> Superior,WI
<kuid2:59012:102989:1> North Plat West
<kuid2:59012:102852:1> Norwalk Danbury
<kuid2:59012:102557:1> NY - Phily
<kuid2:59012:102580:1> NY NJ
<kuid2:59012:102679:1> Pino Grande
<kuid2:59012:103078:1> Yulee FL
<kuid2:59012:102054:1> Placerville
<kuid2:59012:102065:1> Port Jervis
<kuid:59012:100112> Sava-Aurora
<kuid2:59012:102160:1> Portland-Auburn
<kuid2:59012:102014:1> Providence
<kuid2:59012:102981:1> Rawlins WY
<kuid2:59012:101362:1> Reading
<kuid2:59012:102040:1> Red - Chico
<kuid2:59012:102774:1> Renovo Williams
<kuid2:59012:103157:1> Rock Cumb 2
<kuid2:59012:103021:1> Rockwood Cumb
<kuid2:59012:101545:1> Sutter Butte
<kuid2:59012:102057:1> Roseville Yard
<kuid2:59012:102060:1> Sacramento Area
<kuid2:59012:102135:1> Salinas
<kuid2:59012:101551:1> Salt Lk Mining
<kuid:59012:101281> San Francisco
<kuid2:59012:102006:1> San Gorgonio
<kuid2:59012:102134:1> San Jose
<kuid2:59012:101146:1> Ward
<kuid:59012:100122> Savana-Gales
<kuid:59012:100170> Seattle
<kuid:59012:101213> Seattle Lite
<kuid:59012:100137> Seattle-Blaine
<kuid2:59012:103093:1> Shawano
<kuid2:59012:102808:1> Sherman Hill
<kuid2:59012:101400:1> Skagway
<kuid2:59012:103115:1> Slatington PA
<kuid2:59012:102837:1> Stamford CT
<kuid2:59012:103015:1> Surf
<kuid2:59012:102535:1> Tacoma Maple
<kuid2:59012:101370:1> Terrain #1
<kuid2:59012:101372:1> Terrain #2
<kuid2:59012:101373:1> Terrain #3
<kuid2:59012:101374:1> Terrain #4
<kuid2:59012:101376:1> Terrain #6
<kuid2:59012:101377:1> Terrain #7
<kuid2:59012:101378:1> Terrain #8
<kuid2:59012:101379:1> Terrain #9
<kuid2:59012:101380:1> Terrain #10
<kuid2:59012:101359:1> Texas Shortline
<kuid2:59012:102809:1> Thorne NV
<kuid2:59012:102787:1> Topton NC
<kuid2:59012:102992:1> Tricities
<kuid:59012:101200> Tucson
<kuid2:59012:102869:1> Vancouver WA
<kuid2:59012:102112:1> Vandenberg
<kuid2:59012:103097:1> Vaughn NM
<kuid2:59012:102122:1> Ventura
<kuid2:59012:102640:1> Yellowstone S
<kuid2:59012:103152:1> Vermont CLP
<kuid:59012:103162> Vermont GMRC
<kuid2:59012:101510:1> Virginia Truc B
<kuid2:59012:101509:1> Virginia Truc S
<kuid2:59012:102833:1> Waterbury CT
<kuid2:59012:102856:1> Wenatchee Rock
<kuid2:59012:102947:1> Wilder TN
<kuid2:59012:102125:1> Williamstown
<kuid:59012:101205> Yakima

Thank you, sir I am now starting Preston Island over from scratch with one of fishlip's island terrains.

<kuid2:59012:101574:1> Island 1 by fishlipsatwork

TANE CM lists it as "Third party, Faulty, missing dependencies". Opened up in Surveyor, it can be saves under a new name after an edit of some sort and no longer be listed as "Faulty". TANE automatically makes it build 4.5 when cloned under a new name.


This island, about 65 square miles, is hilly as the devil and should be daunting to try to establish an American standard-guage railroad over it somehow. There is little flat open land, so I definately need a long airfield running along the beach over sea water.