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bassist118

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Browsing through stuff I came across this (funny tho I havn't heard about it on the beeb)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...on-Brown-praises-high-speed-rail-service.html

250mph, I hope so but it seems a bit of a fantasy somehow, its only been 2 years since the Eurostar was trundeling along at 50 - 60 through the suburbs.

Slowly but surely the government seems to be pulling it finger out of its common hole and its about time. A small tick after they lost several million child support and related bank details "to a courior".

By the looks of things this is supported by every party so if Labour don't make it the railway still will.

Fingers crossed

:D

Andy
 
bassist118 said:
Browsing through stuff I came across this (funny tho I havn't heard about it on the beeb)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...on-Brown-praises-high-speed-rail-service.html

250mph, I hope so but it seems a bit of a fantasy somehow, its only been 2 years since the Eurostar was trundeling along at 50 - 60 through the suburbs.
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250mph (402kmh)?? Sounds more like a maglev.

I don't believe at the moment proper-railed trains are able to cope with that speed - in regular service before anyone brings up the specially fitted out TGV at over 500kmh (310mph)

PS: I wonder when the UK & USA are going to move forward & get in the metric world especially with speeds? :hehe:
 
Red_Rattler said:
PS: I wonder when the UK & USA are going to move forward & get in the metric world especially with speeds? :hehe:
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Psht, have you seen our railway system? It makes South America and Eastern Europe's look 1st World :p. By the way, has Australia a HSR system/line?

Cheers
 
Red_Rattler said:
...I wonder when the UK & USA are going to move forward & get in the metric world especially with speeds? :hehe:
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When we forget how to do real measurements and have to settle.
The article I saw says the trains are capable of 140mph. Hitachi "A-Train" EMU sets. using what is referred to as "Bullet Train Technology." That means they got some fast express trains that are almost as fast as the first Shinkansen.
http://www.javelintrains.info/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8107283.stm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_395
Apparently it's based on the series 885 limited express train running on 400 series Yamagata Shinkansen bogies. I think they look pretty good.

:cool:Claude
 
Isaacg said:
It makes South America and Eastern Europe's look 1st World :p. By the way, has Australia a HSR system/line?
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Fastest maximum operating speed is (are you sitting down?) 160 - um that's kmh!(1) The XPT (similar design and based on the HST) is permitted to go up to 160kmh as well, but in NSW, a few transport ministers ago, the government put a blanket 120kmh (75mph; (except for probably one area)) restriction in NSW for ANY train, although RailCorp denies their is this limit, even where signs state 160kmh. Compared to loco hauled trains, the XPT only saves about an hour or two from Sydney to either Melbourne (about 960km) or Brisbane (980kmh). But quite often that extends to taken more time than the previous loco-hauled trains, due to being late. On Saturday(?) the Melbourne - Sydney was about 2 hours late or so.

On a side note, for longer distance commuting the (shortest time between cities mentioned at the moment) from Newcastle - Sydney is 2½hours, a distance of 168 kilometres (104 miles). A special trip with 3801 in mid-1964, that was not the Newcastle Flyer despite what some people may think did a non-stop (I think) from Sydney - Newcastle in 2 hours 1½ minutes (minute longer other direction), and the XPT (in 1993? I think) did Sydney - Newcastle in very slightly under that. And when the XPT was newish, it was timed for Sydney - Broadmeadow (about 163 km/101 mi) in about 1 hour 54 minutes, it's now about 25 - 30 minutes longer - even after trackwork is completed!

1. Trains that are able to go the maximum speed of 160kmh include the Rockhampton & Cairns Tilt Trains, XPT's, the new & former The Prospector carriages. Not sure, but I think 160kmh is still the limit for the two tilt trains mentioned. After a derailment, and truck accident, the tilt trains were at one stage limited to 100kmh, and cancelled their for a while.
 
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from one of the links
"So the question would be: 'if it isn't New Street where else might it be?' Under new EU regulations, any station which is served by a high speed train must be at least 400 metres in length."
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More red tape again??

But what if the timetabling & line only included trains that are say 200 metres in length?

Oh no, not more trouble with i/net browser.
 
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