Firefighterdan
343 NEVER FORGET
I downloaded a cool route but is infected with grass everywhere. Is there a way to delete some of it so it looks more realistic? Thanks,
Grass everywhere problem
- Thread starter Firefighterdan
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Dan,
The grass and flowers are scenery objects. You can delete them in Surveyor.
What I've done to remove grass like this is to create a blank patch.
Open up the wrench icon on the right.
Go to a blank area, without any grass on it, and select an area.
Uncheck topology, textures, and track splines.
Select the area with the red copy, and click on the blue paste button.
You'll see a rectangle, the size of your selection.
Now go back to the area where the grass and flowers are, and press your mouse button.
This will paste a blank area where the grass objects. The process is a bit tedious, but it works very well. It would be nice if there was a delete selected area tool for cases like this.
John
mezzoprezzo
Content appreciator
Sections of your route might look a bit bare if you just delete the grass. You'll probably need something to replace the "furry" look.
As a suggestion, you could try lowering the spline points of the existing grass. Some vegetation splines are transformed when set just a little lower.
As a suggestion, you could try lowering the spline points of the existing grass. Some vegetation splines are transformed when set just a little lower.
Firefighterdan
343 NEVER FORGET
I downloaded a couple more routes today and they both have the same problem. I am beginning to wonder if I am doing something wrong?
Probably not. IMHO some people think to make a route look realistic they have to have gobs of grass all over the tracks. If you Google Images "Railroad Tracks" you won't see hardly ANY tracks that are covered in grass, unless they are abandoned. I think this started from the Screenshot Thread. Just about every time someone posts a screenshot with a nice looking, weathered locomotive sitting on a track mostly obscured by grass, they get a lot of "Ooo's" and "Ahh's". I guess they think it looks realistic.
I don't know. What John suggested is probably the way to go. It's what I do anyhow when I want to delete a lot of stuff.
Best wishes,
Dave
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Gandalf0444
FVRR member
Well it should depend on what line you or type of line you are modeling. If your modeling a class one little or no grass will be present on or near the ROW. But a small class two or tourist railroad will have lots more of grass, and shrubs near and in some cases grass growing right on the ROW, now the grass growing on the ROW wouldn't be up to your knees obviously but a little would be present.
grass everywhere
Firefighter Dan
From the screenshot you provided it looks as though all that grass is in the UMR-2010 Summer route. No you are not doing anything wrong. But to get rid of the grass, in surveyor, in the objects tab, click on the spline mode and highlight the delete button. All that grass is in the form of a spline. Have fun deleting. That grass irritated me also.
Firefighter Dan
From the screenshot you provided it looks as though all that grass is in the UMR-2010 Summer route. No you are not doing anything wrong. But to get rid of the grass, in surveyor, in the objects tab, click on the spline mode and highlight the delete button. All that grass is in the form of a spline. Have fun deleting. That grass irritated me also.
I have a simple way to get rid of unwanted scenery.
I made a scenery object that is a small flat plane that sets a meter or so below the base so that it is invisible and named it blank. Now to replace a scenery object I open the route for Edit in Surveyor, find the item to replace, open the Replace Assets window, open the Objects tab, click/drag the item to be replaced then scroll to find the blank scenery object and click/drag to the the replace with box. If that removes too much of an object you can always replace a few back.
Bob Weber
I made a scenery object that is a small flat plane that sets a meter or so below the base so that it is invisible and named it blank. Now to replace a scenery object I open the route for Edit in Surveyor, find the item to replace, open the Replace Assets window, open the Objects tab, click/drag the item to be replaced then scroll to find the blank scenery object and click/drag to the the replace with box. If that removes too much of an object you can always replace a few back.
Bob Weber
Firefighterdan
343 NEVER FORGET
LOL, out of the million routes for these simulators you are correct it is UMR-2010. I found the winter version so now I just have snow……..
Thanks for the help everyone! :wave: cascaderailroad
New member
Once again it is Lawn & Garden season ... you need some cows and sheep to help get rid of that pesky grass ! :hehe:
Personally, i like using grass to break up the "painted-on" look of the textures. the thing is, from the high angles he took the screenshots at, any grass spline will look bad. The trick is low angle shots (which i'm sure is something everyone knows, so i'm preaching to the chior). I don't know, personally i like modelling regional class 2's and 3's and tourist railroads better that fit, trim, and heavily pruned class 1's, and even if i do add a class-one line for an interchange, I'll run grass splines up to the ROW just to make the 2D-ness of the textures look better. If you want a good example of using "just enough grass splines to be dangerous," download kinstonflyer's North American Grain Shortline V1. There is a place for abandoned, rusting sidings and rolling stock (and you'll find one on many of my personal routes...along with the two or three i'm working on for release), and even some well-used industry sidings may have polished rail, but aren't that well taken care of and are festooned with weeds. Just a thought.
Just my 2 cents, just thought i'd chime in.
Yes, yes and yes... grass, grass and grass... everywhere.
So much so the tracks are obliterated.
I too agree, too much is intolerable... at least for me.
I have a routine to do a weed, grass or whatever killing process
that’s permanent.
Identify the culprit. I do this by adding "-showkuids" in the trainzoptions file.
Now using the CMP, cloan the kuid that’s annoying you.
Open the CLOAN in content manager and identify the primary .TGA or .BMP file.
Open this file in your graphics editor. I use PhotoStudio but there are many
others, Photoshop, MS Paint, GIMP, Paint Shop Pro, that will do the job.
Now tint this file an obnoxious color. I use flourescent pink. Nothing like
flourescent pick grass. You can spot it mile away. This helps in finding the
offending grass railroad wide.
Place the tinted file in the asset folder and commit. STOP. Clone this asset
now after commiting. THAT’S after modifying and after committing.
Your going to delete this asset shortly and you might, probably will, need it
again and there is no sense in reinventing it again.
In my case, before committing I copy the asset content to a safe area.
This is a folder on a different drive outside the Trainz environment.
When I need it, I just "Import Content" and I’m back in business.
Now open TRAINZ. Find the grass that needs mowed.
Using "Replace assets...", replace the offending grass with the clone you have
made above. You will now have acres of bright pink grass.
Save the route under a name with TEST appended to the route name.
Exit the Trainz program.
Go to the Content Manager, and delete the CLOAN you made above.
Remember, you should have a copy buried somewhere under a different
name or stored in a safe place.
Start TRAINZ again.
NO GRASS. That is NO pink grass.
Now delete missing assets and save the route again. This time use a reasonable
name without the appended TEST.
Exit SURVEYOR and then delete the route with the appended TEST in the name.
You now have a route without the darned grass.
This works with any asset. GRASS, bushes, houses, fire plugs, you name it.
Its easy and FAST. Just because you might want to delete a fireplug doesn’t
mean you can’t turn it into pink grass to find ALL the fire plugs you might
want to get rid of on a route.
Be inventive. It has worked for me in finding assets anywhere on the route.
Because of the color they are easy to find once changed in this manor.
Good luck.... AL
Example of VERY pink grass....
You get the picture!
So much so the tracks are obliterated.
I too agree, too much is intolerable... at least for me.
I have a routine to do a weed, grass or whatever killing process
that’s permanent.
Identify the culprit. I do this by adding "-showkuids" in the trainzoptions file.
Now using the CMP, cloan the kuid that’s annoying you.
Open the CLOAN in content manager and identify the primary .TGA or .BMP file.
Open this file in your graphics editor. I use PhotoStudio but there are many
others, Photoshop, MS Paint, GIMP, Paint Shop Pro, that will do the job.
Now tint this file an obnoxious color. I use flourescent pink. Nothing like
flourescent pick grass. You can spot it mile away. This helps in finding the
offending grass railroad wide.
Place the tinted file in the asset folder and commit. STOP. Clone this asset
now after commiting. THAT’S after modifying and after committing.
Your going to delete this asset shortly and you might, probably will, need it
again and there is no sense in reinventing it again.
In my case, before committing I copy the asset content to a safe area.
This is a folder on a different drive outside the Trainz environment.
When I need it, I just "Import Content" and I’m back in business.
Now open TRAINZ. Find the grass that needs mowed.
Using "Replace assets...", replace the offending grass with the clone you have
made above. You will now have acres of bright pink grass.
Save the route under a name with TEST appended to the route name.
Exit the Trainz program.
Go to the Content Manager, and delete the CLOAN you made above.
Remember, you should have a copy buried somewhere under a different
name or stored in a safe place.
Start TRAINZ again.
NO GRASS. That is NO pink grass.
Now delete missing assets and save the route again. This time use a reasonable
name without the appended TEST.
Exit SURVEYOR and then delete the route with the appended TEST in the name.
You now have a route without the darned grass.
This works with any asset. GRASS, bushes, houses, fire plugs, you name it.
Its easy and FAST. Just because you might want to delete a fireplug doesn’t
mean you can’t turn it into pink grass to find ALL the fire plugs you might
want to get rid of on a route.
Be inventive. It has worked for me in finding assets anywhere on the route.
Because of the color they are easy to find once changed in this manor.
Good luck.... AL
Example of VERY pink grass....
You get the picture!