Freight Yard Crashes

[sullivjs]

Tried searching for this, didn't really find anything of much substance: I'm experiencing an unbelievably infuriating problem with surveyor at the moment, for some reason a particular area in the route I'm building likes to cause crash after crash after crash. Its an area I'm putting a freight yard in, and as I'm writing this, it'll be the third time now that I've completely deleted every single asset in the area until it no longer crashes, and then rebuilt it one piece at a time. Here is the general sequence that causes the game to crash: Usually starts with a rapid camera shift, either by moving a long distance in free viewing mode, or by switching to a locomotive from a far away part on the map. What happens next depends on if I'm in driver mode or surveyor mode. If in surveyor mode, the game runs fine at first, with the exception of the tracks in the yard. Many of them will randomly be missing entire sections that have already been placed (trust me, I've been dealing with this crash for a while, and I know I've laid those pieces). If you click to add track to any area that is missing however, it suddenly appears again. What ultimately causes the crash in surveyor is literally just moving the mouse over a certain section of track. It changes each time I've had to rebuild it, but each time it is the same exact spot. When it crashes, its an instant crash, no slowed framerate followed by an hourglass mouse icon or anything, its just there one second and then blink and its gone. In driver mode, its a very similar pattern, only its not a mouse over that causes it, its any action with a locomotive in that general area.

Just to be clear, I'm not a gimme-pig, I'm not looking for a handout, and I certainly don't just want someone to fix it for me. I like figuring out things on my own. The only reason why I'm posting is because I've reached a dead end, I'm bashing my head into the table, and I'm not too proud to ask around for a little advice lol. If anyone has experienced anything similar to this problem, knows of this problem, or is willing to offer any advice, I most certainly appreciate it. Thanks

 

[Euphod]

I'm sorry, I don't have a Mac, but it may be useful to post the kuid of the track that seems to causing the crash.

 

[clam1952]

Things that have caused problems for me on the odd occasion not Mac but may be relevant.
If you have a database repair on Mac run it. Usually fixes most problems with a route.
Have a look in Wire mesh view and see if there is anything hiding below ground level and remove it. Crashing in the same place may indicate there is something there you can't see.
Check your routes dependencies for anything missing and use the remove missing assets in surveyor to remove.
Check the routes dependencies for anything that is faulty and either repair it or remove it from content manager and again use the remove missing assets in surveyor.
Change or delete the ground textures in the area, best one to start with is one that's not used anywhere else.
Sometimes just cloning the route and using that will sort out odd crashes.

 

[sullivjs]

Things that have caused problems for me on the odd occasion not Mac but may be relevant.
If you have a database repair on Mac run it. Usually fixes most problems with a route.
Have a look in Wire mesh view and see if there is anything hiding below ground level and remove it. Crashing in the same place may indicate there is something there you can't see.
Check your routes dependencies for anything missing and use the remove missing assets in surveyor to remove.
Check the routes dependencies for anything that is faulty and either repair it or remove it from content manager and again use the remove missing assets in surveyor.
Change or delete the ground textures in the area, best one to start with is one that's not used anywhere else.
Sometimes just cloning the route and using that will sort out odd crashes.

Just now got around to this, sorry for the delay (didn't have this thread setup for notifications..oops.) You were exactly right though, I actually tried the database repair on my own before reading this and that ended up fixing the problem. I'm really thinking about getting a whole new machine just for gaming though, mostly because of Trainz. Macs are great for media editing, and functionality and whatnot, but they do not handle games well at all. On top of that, working with CMP on a Mac is literally as striped down as it gets. Every single change you want to make to an asset must be done in raw text form, and the slightest error, even a comma one space too far over will cause the asset to show as faulty. Its either a blessing or a curse, because files have to be literally perfect in order to run, so I've developed a decent knowledge of the inner workings of Trainz files, however like I said, the files need to be literally perfect to run. So it involves a lot of head bashing Anywhoo, sorry for the rant lol thanks again for the reply.

- Joe

 

[sullivjs]

I'm sorry, I don't have a Mac, but it may be useful to post the kuid of the track that seems to causing the crash.

See above post..sorry I didn't respond right away, thanks for replying though!